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| Hood stepping down now and admitting defeat,in my opinion would be despicable. he assured the fans that he would not take thepledged money if he didnt think the rest could be secured. It seems he has goven up! Caisley has said nothing publicly to support or undermine what they are doing at the club since before the original pledge deadline so surely Hood cant use Caisley as an excuse for the pledge not working. If Caisly had derailed it, it was prior to the club taking the money.
I am absolutley fed up to the back teeth of Hood and Caisley, and Bennett and the others to be honest. their petty attitude towards each other, and their lack of humility has wrecked this club. If they could have worked properly together we wouldnt be in this mess. they may be gambling with their shares, but without us the fans they have nothing! The way they have conducted themselves has shown a real lack of respect for all of us, even those fortunate few who were granted an audience!
Our focus is now on paying the bills that come in a few weeks. minimal cash flow for a few weeks means we may struggle to avaiod administration before our next home match.
Dont let Hood blame Caisley if we go into admin, and dont believe all Caisley says about Hood. these two Pee in the same pot and are as bad as each other!
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"It was insincere if not dishonest of Hood to even suggest that the second £0.5M had any viable chance of being raised.'"
How can you make that statement? Do you have any clear knowledge that that was the case?
In the first place, when we met with the BoD before D Day (and before Caisley's intervention via the T&A) it was clear they were very mindful of their responsibilities as directors regarding trading whilst insolvent. I cannot believe all three directors would have called the pledge in had they not had realistic expectations that the business would continue as a going concern. To call the pledges in otherwise ran the risk of them becoming personally liable. At the time, I attributed the delay to the directors needing to be as sure as they could be on this point.
Secondly, everything I heard then - and indeed on the day the pledge was called in - from the mouths of directors - suggested they continued to believe that the remainder of the funds would be secured. If they were being unreasonably optimistic, especially regarding the impact of the Caisley intervention followed by Sutcliffe and Preston and Coulby, maybe we'll never know; but my own feeling is that they nevertheless genuinely believed that to be so at the time.
I suspect that, when history comes to be written, we may discover that matters did not proceed at all as expected at the time the pledge was called in. Although little in this whole sorry saga of kindergarten politics would surprise me any more.
Whether the public pronouncements on the inter-shareholder strife from a variety of people served to deter the potential funders, only those party to the discussions will know. And indeed, we've not yet seen confirmation that NO such funding will actually be forthcoming - even though I guess its not unreasonable for fans to be fearing the worst, especially given how Hood seems to have thrown the towel in.
After all, once Caisley had announced he had a majority to remove the board, who would want to conclude a deal with the club until and unless the internal strife had been resolved? Something Caisley must surely have appreciated, even if maybe the BoD may not have?
Fat ladies have not sung yet; we might wake up one morning to a headline (probably not in the T&A) that a white knight has indeed manifested himself? I'd think twice about betting the house on it though.
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| I have no idea why people are getting at Hood at the moment. So far all I see are replays of what he wrote in the programme, which basically said that he expected to be voted out at the EGM. If someone has some concrete evidence that he has in fact resigned please link to it to avoid this feeding frenzy of speculation.
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| My money is on Seabrooks or Mumtaz........watch this space. (I know nothing official on this by the way!).
Just speculating though, but how good would it be to have Mumtaz on the case? Getting the Asian community behind the Bulls would be phenomenal
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"It might for Caisley. Depends on what happens before.'"
Unless it is true that Hood has resigned, nothing is likely to happen before the EGM, Chris Caisley's statement to the T&A pretty much ensures that, since no-one is going to invest in a business where the current board are certain to be outvoted at an imminent EGM.
If it is true about PH then anything and everything is in play, though as someone else pointed out earlier in the piece, CC has known about the financial position for yonks and hasn't come up with anything, so why people are expecting him to do so now is a bit surprising, to be honest.
The one thing which puzzles me about the Caisley statement though, is the role of Nobby coming in to, what was it again, "to look over the football side of things", or some thing along those lines. Whilst there are clearly issues over the finances, the "football side of things" is doing OK for my money and doesn't need Nobby, or anyone else coming in.
Though, I guess it could mean looking at the team to see where cuts can be made to bring the finances into order. And whilst this certainly isn't what I would [iwant[/i to hear, it is definitely preferable to admin, point reductions and welching on debts.
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| Hood hasn't resigned
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| Quote ="Adeybull"
Fat ladies have not sung yet; we might wake up one morning to a headline (probably not in the T&A) that a white knight has indeed manifested himself? I'd think twice about betting the house on it though.'"
Or a TO$$er in Tin Foil.
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| Perhaps one good thing that can come out of this is Stuart "I'm in the music industry and am a Rhino fan" Duffy may actually go. Perhaps be replaced by Nobby to "look over the football side of things".......or to put it another way, do the job that Duffy hasn't been doing!
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| I guess its not impossible that some future funder is sitting on his commitment and his brass until the kindergarten sorts itself out. Then, whoever is sat on the big stool holding the teddy, they'll commit?
Maybe it would be pretty unfair if the current BoD had lined up funding, only to be ejected and the new incumbents receive the benefit of it? But I guess that, as always, to the victor the spoils. If it meant we still had a half-decent team to watch, I guess the end would doubtless be seen to justify the means. ATEOTD the survival of the club is paramount.
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| Here we go again,its yet another dick measuring contest involving the Bulls management
Caisley started all of your 5hit without a doubt with his signing of Harris
Hood and his board were all clearly out of their depths whilst running the club
Seriously speaking i reckon that Kath Hetherington would be the ideal person for the job if the monetary backing could be sorted
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| Potter's comments post-match:
"The club needs to keep moving on and we have to keep rolling if the club wants to be in Super League so, if something has to change, I hope it's for the better of the club.
"Peter does love the club and he loves being associated with the club and for the moment he's chairman and has got my support."
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| Hopefully we can have some facts tomorrow that can be debated rather than this guesswork we are left with.
A share issue would be an option to consider. Politics aside of course!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Sorry, but you clearly have no understanding of what you are talking about on that point there.
The pledge money has already been spent.
And, in Administration, the administrator decides what happens to the assets, and who to sell them to and for how much.'"
So pledgees have effectively piissed there money up the wall?
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| Quote ="juliebull"Hopefully we can have some facts tomorrow that can be debated rather than this guesswork we are left with.
A share issue would be an option to consider. Politics aside of course!'"
Think I've said this more times than I can remember now, though - share issue is totally and utterly out of the question whilst we have the current shareholder impasse, sadly.
Current BoD could not issue new shares. And can anyone see Caisley wanting to play second fiddle - or for that matter any other major investor in the club?
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| Quote ="Schunter"So pledgees have effectively piissed there money up the wall?'"
Not if the pledges ensured - for whatever reason, even if it was to stop himself being the most hated and despised man in Bradford - the one who is sat on the big stool holding the teddy after the EGM concludes that administration is not an option.
That is my hope.
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| Quote ="juliebull"Agree 100%. Perhaps Staffbull can give us some insight into his comments? If they are groundless perhaps he can consider the impact upon supporters to what he is saying?'"
Think staffbulls comments were fair enough. If you were more transparent with your plans chris, you might get a more sympathetic hearing?
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| Perhaps the bigger question is why do people insist on hiding behind alias' on message boards? Perhaps "juliebull" can give us some insight into who she/he is and the impact that he/she is having on supporters?
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| Quote ="mat"Think staffbulls comments were fair enough. If you were more transparent with your plans chris, you might get a more sympathetic hearing?'"
It's not just CC that can be thrown at. The whole mess is a PR disaster for all parties involved.
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| Quote ="redeverready"It's not just CC that can be thrown at. The whole mess is a PR disaster for all parties involved.'"
Its unlikely that we'll ever know how close Hood came to securing additional investment, whether he was clutching at straws or genuinely believed he could raise the extra £500k. Without that insight its impossible to apportion blame.
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| So Hoods last act player wise, is selling Bateman to Warrington?
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| Quote ="staffbull1973"Perhaps the bigger question is why do people insist on hiding behind alias' on message boards? Perhaps "juliebull" can give us some insight into who she/he is and the impact that he/she is having on supporters?'"
Supporter for 40 years, Shareholder for 20 (100 shares) and sponsor for 2 years. Is that enough? Who are you?
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| Quote ="redeverready"It's not just CC that can be thrown at. The whole mess is a PR disaster for all parties involved.'"
Correct, even todays release does not confirm anything other than an "anticipation". It might be whats going to happen but we're always left with so much guesswork. Its like death from a 1000 cuts. I've pretty much stopped believing anything coming from any party for the moment concerning the Bulls.
Quote ="Frosties"So Hoods last act player wise, is selling Bateman to Warrington?
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| Quote ="juliebull"Supporter for 40 years, Shareholder for 20 (100 shares) and sponsor for 2 years. Is that enough? Who are you?'"
Calm down luv ,jeez.
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