We assisted in creating this monster we now have to control. What benefits do we get from being there? Access to oil & drugs?

If it was that straight forward and transparent you'd have a point,but that isn't the case.
Check what's been going on there before 9/11 and look deeper at how these countries were run and who/what they supported!!

Oh I see. Manipulating the democratic process, supporting unelected dictatorships & complicit in the use of torture & oppression. We can't stand for that. Never have, never will.

I for one fully respect the armed forces and what they stand for and would have applauded had i been at the game. I wont however treat them all as heroes, some have carried out truely Heroic acts above and beyond what is expected when they carry out their DUTY and deserve the tag "hero" others have carried out the job they signed up for and as i said they deserve respect for doing the job, lets not forget they dont choose where they are stationed or the enemy they fight they carry out their duty for Queen and country (dont get me started on the monarchy).

They do choose to join the army though don't they. What do they expect to be doing? It's not tiddly winks is it?

I would like to suggest there being a WMD under or in McNamara's seat, please can we take it away for investigation (whilst he's sat on it) and let it be replaced whilst it is interogated, waterboarded and locked up without trial for the next 2 years, unfornuntely Steve would have to stay with it as he is the owner and person responsible for it's actions.

My evidence is the destruction of a world championship club to relegation fodder in 3 years, he has brought terror, fear and worse than all apathy to our once great clubs supporters.

We can replace Steve's chair with a more experienced chair with someone (anyone) else sat on it.

I would suggest should our great nations army...sorry all our armed forces perform this task (nothing else seems to budge him) then an even greater majority would clap them...perhaps even Terry







Being serious, something different and i kinda enjoyed it. Lets stop the bickering, people have different views and opinions and if we didn't it wouldn't be interesting...now moving onto people without children parking in mother and baby spaces...............

And people parking in cycle lanes.

And people in cars who drive all the way to the front of a queue and then indicate to be let in....grrrr

I would say that the applause for theses lads was as warm and prolonged as I think I have ever heard at odsal, it went on throughout the whole presentations and a lot of people in the stand made it a standing ovation. I am very proud that the overwhelming majority of fans (both clubs) feel that way.

I despise those who feel big about not clapping, especially those who only have self-interest at heart - "what have they done for ME ME ME"icon_wink.gif I am grateful to live in a country where even the mealy-mouthed, selfish, waste-of space oafs such as these have the right of free speech, ironically preserved for them by the blood and sacrifice of millions of former service men and women.

Yeah, that about sums it up for me.

Yep, everyone in the Coral stand was applauding all the way through too, including the two sides that had played in the curtain raiser.

I was there with a few people who had never been to Odsal before (and a few who had never been to an RL game) and they all commented what a very respectful and nice reception the half time ceremony got.


It was also quite strange to note that they all thought the pre-match entertainment was excellent. Perhaps we only criticise it because we see a similar thing every week and remember when it was a bit more? Those new to the game were quite impressed.

Something Ryan always mentions at fans fora.

I think we have a tendency to think that's just an excuse, but I witnessed first hand yesterday that he's spot on with it.

My sister brought a load of new people to the Leeds match earlier this year and they all mentioned how much they enjoyed the pre-match stuff too.

Big, mealy-mouthed, selfish, waste-of space oafs

Classic.

having 2 relatives in the forces (one being my brother although not on the front line) i think that its a fantastic idea! maybe do something at the next MM weekend of CC final/GF?

right lads let's pull out of iraq and afghan and never go to awarzone again, why? because civillian people like some on here couldnt care less what we do, maybe it's a war people dont want, but hey ho we got on with it, lets lay down our arms next time and let people walk all over us like the IRA did for a few years before the lads gave them a good hiding, when something bad happens to this country of ours and you lot complain i come on here and quietly say as a british solider i told you so....... then grab my gear and do the job just as well.

TBF it's a tiny minority.

I bet your the sort of person that would it in a contact situation, no backbone, nothing about yourself. lets the 'real' men do the fighting and dyeing, while you sit at home havieing a brew slagging my boys off!, lost 3 good friends off mine due to iraq and afghan 2 while i was next to them, every soldier that i see is worth 15 of your, THANKS FOR YOUR COMMENT BUT UNTIL YOU HAVE DONE SOME SERVICE IN 'FOREIGN LANDS' IT MEANS NOTHING

Halifax last year announced all service personal would be allowed free admission on showing there ID card's (MODS 90), it would be a great gesture if more clubs allowed this, things like this do mean a lot to us service personnel as little as it may be it’s a nice gesture .

Tried to do it yesterday but got refused wouldnt even give me discount, had to pay the full £17 and only had enough for one smooth pint!

I couldn't care less what you think of me, really I couldn't. I dont see what the problem is anyway, I haven't slagged any soldiers off, I only said I didn't applaud them yesterday and I wouldn't until I thought they were worthy of my applause and praise. Stop jumping to conclusions.

What is it to be a 'real man'?

We are pulling out of Iraq and yesterday the President of Afghanistan called for the Taliban to be brought in to talks because military operations won't be sufficient to solve the problem (Sunday Times). Nor did we defeat the IRA militarily, instead former members are now in Govt in NI. I don't want you to have to go to Iraq or Afghanistan and risk your life to fight people we have previously armed and financed.

I respect you as a soldier and value the fact that you are willing to put your life on the line to protect the people of this country. I also understand you have to go where you are sent, but i would rather we valued you more than sending you in to war zones that are of our own making to do an impossible job and in Afghanistan a job in which every military force has previously failed.

I was in Nam. Tought times I say you.

Weren't the Yorkshire Regiment getting their service medals for their recent deployment in Kosovo anyway?

What's that got to do with Iraq?