REALLY no need to apologise Ewwenorfolk - I was only commenting, not ranting



Like I said, I understand what you meant . . . . .and I'm disheartend too

You'll be having Hull KR fans coming knocking with comments like that

I love it how you slap us all up to reality.

Oh, I know that, but whilst there are some out there who, bizarrely, still try to say that any comments against the coach are "knee jerk" then a certain sarcasm on thread starters are allowed.

Can't say that I've seen that in a long, long time ME. Must have missed it/them.

Care to point me in the direct of / linky those "still try to say that any comments against the coach are "knee jerk" ME?

Wigan bull used the phrase knee jerk only this last week.

Sam Alladyce getting the sack at Newcastle in December, THAT was a knee jerk reaction. The sacking of a coach whose taken defending champions and, over 3 years, turned them into wooden spoon competitors that is not.

Cheers RER - Missed that one. As I said, I'd not seen it in a long while and Mr Gate's word search functionality seems to be up the swanny . . . . .



So, sounds like there one poster who's used it recently . . . . . perhaps a "there is one" may have been more accurate than "there are some" . . .

So WB would be the only one out there then?

However, nice try at trying to deflect the blow away from you after being a little shown up. I had trawled through a pile of WB posts on my phone last night but RER saved me the hassle.



edit [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=410771&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20actually, here you are[/url

Shown up???

That evidently has a different meaning from where you're from ME



I'm grateful to RER for highlighting the post. I had asked for a clarification that was factually and politely answered, as ever, by RER.

Thanks for your linky too fella. Hope it didn't put you to too much trouble. I still think there was more than a little bit of a machiavellian tilt to your original comment that tried to make it sound like there were a host of people with that view, but hey, who said it was wrong to let a few simple facts get in the way of a good story

And there was me thinking you thought I could not direct you to the right place too.

OK, I accept "knee jerk" probably wasn't the best choice of phrase.

Have the club gone backwards under Steve? Without doubt you would have to say that, yes it has.

Is it purely down to Steve? I really don't think it is.

Just goes to show how wrong you can be then fella, doesn't it

. . . . Don't take it to heart though, there's no shame in it. Although, if you need closure in that way to make you feel better about yourself ME, then fine, knock yourself out



I asked you to show me where the comments were. You (and RER) did that. If I'd have believed you couldn't have done that I'd have said so outright and / or littered the post with laughing emoticons



So thanks for showing me one (possibly two) recent comments to quantify your "there are some on here" post. Much appreciated

Have already e-mailed the relevant people referance this subject and others, hopeing for a reply but who knows

Why have i been dragged in to this.

You haven't really TBH RER.

My apologies if I made you feel that you'd been dragged into this particular melee RER. It certainly wasn't my intention and I didn't realise it could be read that way - having reread, I appreciate that it could be.



Hells teeth.

We agree on [isomething[/i. . . . (slopes off and cuts wrists in dismay)

What are the board waiting for.

The bloke is still here. Have they forgotten what they need to do?

And that is your classic [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patellar_reflexknee-jerk[/url. Not so much in the time taken, rather the thought process evident. Team = 13th therefore coach = sack, much like blow to the knee = jerk of the lower leg.

Dont know how you have come to that conclusion really.

There has been a gradual decline under the tenure of SM.

We have a squad with much more potential than it is showing. Most of the players arent bad players but they are playing like bad players at the moment. To me this says more about the coach than anyone else.

Probably the most worrying thing about all this is that the fans seem to be leaving in their droves. Granted this is not all down to SM but im sure watching a winning team wouldnt do any harm at all. Say what you like about glory hunters etc, people dont want to see teams who lose every week.

So I dont want to sound dramatic but yes it seems that SM could be damaging the club long term.

Obviously he doesnt mean to be a poor coach and I appreciate that they are trying to turn it around but how many more times can you take "I will turn it around" etc etc only to see it not happening on the pitch.

I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, I was sticking by him long after others had turned. Only a few weeks ago I cringed when I read the posts of people like Mystic Eddie.

But I dont believe he can now recover this position. This season is a write off, and we might as well start planning for next season now imo. We need someone with the motivational skills to drag us out of the hole. A fresh start.

I still don’t buy in to the “it’s all SM’s fault”.
I think the decline started before he was placed in charge. He has had to arrest that decline and try and stabilise the club (not on his own obviously), then begin to implement things to start the rebuilding process. This isn’t going to happen in a matter of weeks or months, it will be a number of years.
On this seasons performances, yes you would have liked to think we’d be going a little better. However, we are struggling for bodies; I know that is wheeled out too often as an excuse, but look at what’s been sat on the sidelines this season. Many of the top players have had spells out. I like to see how any business reacts to having a large percentage of its top earners sat in the canteen.

Not to worry. You have finally seen the light.

And you never will.

It's got to the stage where everyday it's the same argument. Some people will back McNarama no matter what and others want him out.

The only thing i'd say is that the camp for wanting him out is growing and has recruited some of the more respected posters.

As long as Solomona paid for his food I would be delighted.

I'd rather prioritise long-term concerns than get hung up on the ten minutes before the game and at half-time. And that's where the knee-jerk criticism is valid. The failure of the Sack Mac contingent is to fully consider the whole picture. They want things sorted and they want it yesterday.