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| If it is any consolation i think bradford was the better team today, you played some really good football, just did not have enough steam left in the tank!! I AM NOT COMPAINING THO!
I am sure your next win is not too far away,
Good look in the challenge cup!
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| For what it's worth and the 80 minutes I have just witnessed, I don't think your team is as bad as some of you lot make out. It's sometimes the same on our board, that some of the biggest moaners can be the ones that sit at home and listen to the game on the radio...
Platt looked good going forward, Nero and Tadulala took some holding and I thought your back row played well. I don't see Bradford every week, so it's not my place to comment on players current form, but Bradford won't be far away come the end of the season on that performance.
The nature of most RL supporters is to focus on the league table and the current or last 80 minutes. SL is a lot more competitive than recent years and Bulls, Wigan and Wire all sit outside the top 8. There are no easy beats this year, but some supporters think they should be beating certain teams, because they have done so in previous years ! It doesn't work like that this year.
A seasons success or failure shouldn't be judged in March, you lot will be thereabouts, but whether you can actually win anything with McNamara - the jurys out.
A good following for your team today and Odsal will always be a tough place for teams to go and get 2 pts. Stick with 'em and best of luck.
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| Quote ="Poker Face"For what it's worth and the 80 minutes I have just witnessed, I don't think your team is as bad as some of you lot make out. It's sometimes the same on our board, that some of the biggest moaners can be the ones that sit at home and listen to the game on the radio... '"
Some truth there it would seem.
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Platt looked good going forward, Nero and Tadulala took some holding and I thought your back row played well. I don't see Bradford every week, so it's not my place to comment on players current form, but Bradford won't be far away come the end of the season on that performance.
The nature of most RL supporters is to focus on the league table and the current or last 80 minutes. SL is a lot more competitive than recent years and Bulls, Wigan and Wire all sit outside the top 8. There are no easy beats this year, but some supporters think they should be beating certain teams, because they have done so in previous years ! It doesn't work like that this year.
A seasons success or failure shouldn't be judged in March, you lot will be thereabouts, but whether you can actually win anything with McNamara - the jurys out.
A good following for your team today and Odsal will always be a tough place for teams to go and get 2 pts. Stick with 'em and best of luck.'"
Can't argue with that.
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| Unhappy with the result from what I was listening to on BCB bradford should have won I would give McNaramara the benfit of the doubt and give him the three games against Catalans, Leeds and Wakefield.
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| Quote ="jsb1990"Unhappy with the result from what I was listening to on BCB bradford should have won I would give McNaramara the benfit of the doubt and give him the three games against Catalans, Leeds and Wakefield.'"
I struggle how even the fiercest critics of McNamara could blame him for today's result. The team defended pretty strongly IMO for the majority of the game. Our players coped well with some strong Cas pressure and de-fused some towering kicks. Unless of course Macca sent a message onto the field with 10 minutes saying 'well done lads job done'.
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| Quote ="Poker Face"For what it's worth and the 80 minutes I have just witnessed, I don't think your team is as bad as some of you lot make out. It's sometimes the same on our board, that some of the biggest moaners can be the ones that sit at home and listen to the game on the radio...
Platt looked good going forward, Nero and Tadulala took some holding and I thought your back row played well. I don't see Bradford every week, so it's not my place to comment on players current form, but Bradford won't be far away come the end of the season on that performance.
The nature of most RL supporters is to focus on the league table and the current or last 80 minutes. SL is a lot more competitive than recent years and Bulls, Wigan and Wire all sit outside the top 8. There are no easy beats this year, but some supporters think they should be beating certain teams, because they have done so in previous years ! It doesn't work like that this year.
A seasons success or failure shouldn't be judged in March, you lot will be thereabouts, but whether you can actually win anything with McNamara - the jurys out.
A good following for your team today and Odsal will always be a tough place for teams to go and get 2 pts. Stick with 'em and best of luck.'"
Pretty fair summation that. Well said.
Trouble is, it doesn't accord with the script of the Negative Tendency on here. Especially those who did not see what actually happened in that last few mins, how we screwed up at a couple of crucial moments and how your lot ran in three excellent tries after some truly outstanding effort.
From what I saw today, its no fluke you guys are where you are in the table.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"6. Someone takes Deacons head off. this time, looked like a Bailey-style shoulder to the head. All seemingly perfectly legit.'"
The tackle was perfectly legal, Shenton never touched his head. Deacon just hit a brick wall
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| Quote ="invmatt"The tackle was perfectly legal, Shenton never touched his head. Deacon just hit a brick wall
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Are you sure? I would like to see it again. It looked dodgy to me.
But what do I know.
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| I like to see one of Castleford's conversions again too, I could have sworn it missed.
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| Quote ="bullsfan4ever"There's only so much a coach can do. Most of his work is done off the pitch and he put a team out there who built up a 16-point lead. There was only a 2-minute gap before they scored again, what miracle could he have performed in that time? These are professional rugby players after all. They blew it, not him.'"
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| Despite the attempt at positive spin from the McNamara appologists on here there is still the fact that we're one win (a win we might not have got if not for a VR) from 6 games. That's nearly a quarter of the season gone and we're way off pace to even make the play-offs. As far as I can see, there's enough skill in the squad to make our current league position questionable. We are not a bad side though we do have weak spots, mainly in the back line, but even so I think the team are still using tactics from 2003.
We don't have 2 extra forwards mascarading as wingers any more. We've got a couple of wingers who've got a bit of pace, so what's wrong with a suprise early kick in the tackle count for them to chase? It's unlikely as Deacon is set in his ways and will give the same kick every time and always on the 5th tackle. You watch any defence against Bradford and 5th tackle theres always someone ready to go for Deacs. Which raises it's own tactical questions. If we've got someone coming out of the line to go for the kicker then there's a gap. What's wrong with faking the pass to Deacon and trying to cut thru towards the try line? Or am I being really naive in thinking that doing something unexpected might get you a try?
I still feel that McNamara is tactically inept and that as much as people on here rattle on about performances and giving the coach time etc etc it won't change what a lot of people can now see. We won't win anything while McNamara remains as head coach
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| I'm a different kind of disappointed tonight. Not disappointed at the poor performance because it was far from that. It was an excellent performance, by both teams. We were, to some extent the better team, I'm still wondering how we lost. A bit more composure, a bit more luck, some decisions going in our favour and we would have won. But hey, fair play to Cas, they took their chances well, when they were given them.
We looked like a team today though and that bodes well.
Newton, Platt and Morrison all outstanding and Menzies showed his class. It also looked like the others are beginning to read him a bit more.
I'm feeling fairly posititive tonight.
We are improving every game.
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| [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/4244182.Bulls_impress_before_rot_sets_in/T&A: Bulls impress before rot sets in[/url
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| Quote ="invmatt"The tackle was perfectly legal, Shenton never touched his head. Deacon just hit a brick wall
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Only just legal, deacon being bent down made sure of that but Shentons arm was close to being an elbow regardless though!!
However i felt it was always within Cas to beat us, but the game turned when Cas lost the ball backwards and Morrison was tackled off the ball and then Cas got the ball and scored that set. It put us on the back foot, I was with a lot of Cas fans who were saying the same that without that incident they don't think they'd have won. Sykes needs to work on his kicking though.
Ryan McGoldrick should be banned, squaring up to the linesman and having his fingers pointed at his own eyes and then at the linesmans and mouthing off like he did was disgraceful behaviour.
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| The teams from wakefield are doing well long may it last
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| Quote ="debaser"I like to see one of Castleford's conversions again too, I could have sworn it missed.'"
The game against Giants our conversion went over but it wasn't given. Class it as karma.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"Despite the attempt at positive spin from the McNamara appologists on here there is still the fact that we're one win (a win we might not have got if not for a VR) from 6 games. That's nearly a quarter of the season gone and we're way off pace to even make the play-offs. As far as I can see, there's enough skill in the squad to make our current league position questionable. We are not a bad side though we do have weak spots, mainly in the back line, but even so I think the team are still using tactics from 2003.
We don't have 2 extra forwards mascarading as wingers any more. We've got a couple of wingers who've got a bit of pace, so what's wrong with a suprise early kick in the tackle count for them to chase? It's unlikely as Deacon is set in his ways and will give the same kick every time and always on the 5th tackle. You watch any defence against Bradford and 5th tackle theres always someone ready to go for Deacs. Which raises it's own tactical questions. If we've got someone coming out of the line to go for the kicker then there's a gap. What's wrong with faking the pass to Deacon and trying to cut thru towards the try line? Or am I being really naive in thinking that doing something unexpected might get you a try?
I still feel that McNamara is tactically inept and that as much as people on here rattle on about performances and giving the coach time etc etc it won't change what a lot of people can now see. We won't win anything while McNamara remains as head coach'" By eck don't sit on the fence.
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| Quote ="debaser"I'm a different kind of disappointed tonight. Not disappointed at the poor performance because it was far from that. It was an excellent performance, by both teams. We were, to some extent the better team, I'm still wondering how we lost. A bit more composure, a bit more luck, some decisions going in our favour and we would have won. But hey, fair play to Cas, they took their chances well, when they were given them.
We looked like a team today though and that bodes well.
Newton, Platt and Morrison all outstanding and Menzies showed his class. It also looked like the others are beginning to read him a bit more.
I'm feeling fairly posititive tonight.
We are improving every game.'"
thats the point that a lot of the armchair fans are missing. whether we're going to improve enough fast enough is another matter
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| Well Done Cas
See you at Odsal on Good Friday Folks.
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| Quote ="mat"thats the point that a lot of the armchair fans are missing. whether we're going to improve enough fast enough is another matter'" Sorry but professional sport is all about results and ours aren't good enough.
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| Quote ="Liane"However i felt it was always within Cas to beat us, but the game turned when Cas lost the ball backwards and Morrison was tackled off the ball and then Cas got the ball and scored that set.'"
And your try under the posts in the first half should have been scrubbed off after one of your men obstructed the defenders. Works both ways.
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| Quote ="Liane"Only just legal, deacon being bent down made sure of that but Shentons arm was close to being an elbow regardless though!!
However i felt it was always within Cas to beat us, but the game turned when Cas lost the ball backwards and Morrison was tackled off the ball and then Cas got the ball and scored that set. It put us on the back foot, I was with a lot of Cas fans who were saying the same that without that incident they don't think they'd have won. Sykes needs to work on his kicking though.
Ryan McGoldrick should be banned, squaring up to the linesman and having his fingers pointed at his own eyes and then at the linesmans and mouthing off like he did was disgraceful behaviour.'"
That's what I posted earlier, that was the turning point of the game and after that it was downhill, I don't mind losing but when a bad decision turns a game it leaves me feeling very bitter
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| Quote ="-Beth-"And your try under the posts in the first half should have been scrubbed off after one of your men obstructed the defenders. Works both ways.'"
You did exactly the same thing up the other end twice in the first half, once it led to a try.
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| Great game, really enjoyed it. Shame our composure went out of the window but that's the sort of Cas finish I'm used to so I wasn't in the slightest bit surprised.
Did anyone notice what a monster Feather has turned into? I had to ask some lads in the pub after the game who he was. They showed me the programme and he's put on a shed load of timber and ran it in hard every time. Good luck to the bloke - I hope his string of freakish injuries are behind him.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"
I still feel that McNamara is tactically inept and that as much as people on here rattle on about performances and giving the coach time etc etc it won't change what a lot of people can now see. We won't win anything while McNamara remains as head coach'"
Tactically, what parts of today did you find inept?
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