If we had money to sign a player like Bird then we can afford to pay off McNamara. If a new coach comes in before May/June, then they will have time to properly plan for next year and recruit their players. One thing is for sure, If I was Peter Hood I would not be negotiating any player contract extensions or allowing McNamara to either.

I would rather see a new coach come in and have a genuine "transitional season" than muddle through to the end and hamstring the next coach witha squad that is up to the cap limit with players he would not want.

For my money, I would love to See Brian Mac back here, but more importantly, if McNamara goes, the so should all the other coaches too. Just like when Brian Smith came, we need a totally fresh start, so Richards, Clawson, St Hillaire etc should also go!

Take you're point RER but, IIRC, it was AP who suggested the prospect of laying of with the suicide pete views for 10 games that "others" then signed up to . . . . and then, as expected, not so subtly forgot about after game one

TBH, I cannot remember "signing" anything. Certainly nothing legally binding anyway.

Anyway, let's be honest, if we remained silent and allow the McNamara fan club to tell us how good the man is then this board would be somewhat quiet at the moment. After all, most of 'em are strangely silent as it stands.

So, your (written) word means nothing then . . . . .



. . . oh, hang on . . . .we've already had that confirmed elsewhere today





Chance would be a fine thing

. . . beside which, quantity is no substitute for quality, ne's pa

TBH i don't think even the staunchest of critic's Mystic and myself included thought we would be bringing the same problems as last season in to this that's what surprised me the most.

Maybe not, and I'm sure most people on here from the Negative Tendency at one extreme to the supposed McNamara Fan Club at the other are disappointed with our start to the season.

Just as well this isn't the Wire board, cos I think we'd have seen people topping themselves by now.

But I don't recall any get-out clauses in the 10-week moratorium agreement, in fairness, so you can understand why those who stated they had signed up to it appear to be displaying bad faith?

And anyway...I think you included a stray word in your post by mistake - I've highlighted it in case you need to delete it...

Dear me. Some people are really clutching at straws over this supposed "10 game rule" are they not?

Get out clauses? Bad faith? (written) word meaning nothing? This is a message board for goodness sake, not a court of law!



The fact remains that IF there had been a noticeable sign of improvement then ten games would be fair to assess where we were at and where we were going. But there appears to be no change whatsoever (WITHOUT THE DRAIN OF IESTYN) and therefore the criticism is justified IMO.

I (and other I assume) are sick of the endless talk that comes out of the club about how what we are doing to put problems right without there being any remote sign of improvement on the field. Perhaps if McNamara and his footsoldiers realised that actions speak louder than words then I, for one, would cut him some slack.

Finally. much as it will display the "Fan Club", myself and RER, whilst being the harshest of critics of the coach, are no longer singing a duet as plenty more on here are now swiftly running out of patience and (appear to) want to see a change sooner rather than later.

Not in the least. IIRC RER has never fully sung from your hymn sheet. True, he may have agreed with certain points but has also agreed with others.

I think its a tad unfair of you to drag him into your "fan Club". I have no doubt that RER is, probably more than most, his own man, and if he wants to be in your, as you put it, "fan club" he'd be the first to say so.

If I read ME right he means as much as it would dismay the "fan Club", IE the McNamara, positive, camp... as opposed to the other camp occupied by ME, RER and a growing?? list of dissidents .



Are RAB posters split into four groups now?;

1. Fan Club - generally positve and backing McNamara for now
2. Undicided - does what it says on the tin
3. Negative Tendancies - generally opposed to McNamara and wanting change now.
4. Couldn't care less, just find it all fun to read from the touchlines!

I reckon we could put all posting members on this forum into one of these categories having read the board from the end of last season to now. (if not from long before that with certain individuals...

)

Are you just making things up? I have never claimed that rer is a member of my fan club so i dunno what you are on about. I accept in the post you quoted i meant to use the word 'dismay' as opposed to the word 'display' but it was a typo.

Put me down for category 4 would you please?

I just wish we had a forum like this in the 70's, 80's & early 90's when we invariably were no hopers and signing players like Terry Holmes.

It really would have been funny and worth reading all the wasted angst and irrelevant frustration back then.

I sort of did that too, by implication, with my response to Red's post earlier.

Sorry Red, you didn't deserve that.

consider it done. I suspect the silent majority of people who read but dont post would make category 4 the largest group!

and a late 80's early 90's forum for Bradford would have been great, with topic headers like;
"Do you think we'll get as many as 5000 at home to Whitehaven this Sunday?"
"will it p!ss it down or just be foggy and cold as usual?"
"what do we think of the half time entertainment of watching the grass grow and seeing the groundsmen prod the pitch with a fork? - should they do it to music?"
"Will the latest Odsal redevelopment finally go ahead this time??"
"Will we keep the score respectable this time at Central Park?"

and the old favourite"Is Macca the right man for the job?".... or is that topic not actually that long running yet?

Too right. Can you imagine what this lot would've made of the Barry Seabourne era?

Yeah.

"Too slow to play scrum half"

"One dimensional with the boot"

Oh, hang on........................?!


I would have personally loved to have been able to read the vitriol against Peter Fox and HIS recruitment strategy. And then all the backsliding when he stuffed it up them by spawning back to back Championships in 79 & 80.

Even comparing something inconsequential like a court of law to something deadly serious like a messageboard is a pretty outrageous thing to do.

All of that!

Best half time entertainment though was watching the players eat their half time oranges whilst trying to catch their breath and straining to listen to the advice of the coaches whose voices were drowned out by a howling gale.

Oh yeah. And the after match entertainment of verbally abusing Fred Lindop (the Ganson of the day) on his long walk back to the dressing room.

But, try telling them that these days and they won't believe you.

They don't know they're born!

It would have been good.

Unfortunately, generally speaking, people seem to have lost the ability to laugh at themselves nowadays, and the black humour that was a common characteristic has been replaced by an omnipresent preciousness.

Again with the racism...

What else would you expect from a raging racist?

I think not. I think they were heartened at the prospect of you STFU with your anti-McNamara carping for even a brief spell of remission, and are disappointed at you going back on your word.


Dead right. We only had your word on it, and as you say, it does indeed appear to be worth not a lot.


... says a person who admittedly has not seen either of the two games played. You couldn't make it up.




We've played 2 games, ffs


...one of his major aims, I'm sure


It is a trait of yours to invent mythical supporters to your cause, when rattled. You so want to be the Voice Of the Negative Tendency, and speak for millions. You don't. Get over it.

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Careful, don't be nasty or else I will have a girly strop and stop posting on here because someone has said something I don't like.




A bit like the word of one who goes off in the huff and says he is not posting on this board anymore, only to come back shortly afterwards you mean?

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