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| Quote ="redeverready"By eck Eastwood must be shiite then.'"
Im not sure how you could draw that conclusion from what he said, certainly not in any logical way
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Im not sure how you could draw that conclusion from what he said, certainly not in any logical way'" Did I quote you I don't think that I did.
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| Great pack
Poor backs
You will do well but lack cutting edge in big games.
Also, there is a real pace issue with Deacon and Newton.
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| Quote ="redeverready"icon_confused.gif Did I quote you I don't think that I did.'"
Oooooooh get you
there is a Private Messaging system you can use if you want a private conversation
This is a forum, which by definition is a place for open discussion Mr Sulkypants
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| Best pack in the league
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"Best pack in the league
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So you are in agreement then. Saints pack is done now with Cunningham on his last leges and Roby and Graham exposed as lightweights in the WC and getting beaten up by them Leeds pansies like Kylie at Old Trafford
Lynch > Graham
Burgess > Fasavalu
Solomona > Flannery (in girth and skill )
Morrison > Pulltua
Menzies > Wilikins
Newton > Cunnilingus
Godwin < Roby
Scrotum > Cayless
Worrincy > Clough
Langley > Gilmuor
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| Quote ="rhinoms"You already over rely on sam and imo is wasted at prop.
If your coach continues down the prop route with him he could end up washed up by the time he's 25 ala fielden.
Sam started the season great but wasn't exactly on fire when injury cut his season short and in terms of performance he wasn't that far ahead of luke.'"
bit like way you over-rely on peacock in same way
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| Quote ="mat"bit like way you over-rely on peacock in same way
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Pea-cock will retire soon then Leeds will try and sign Lynchy and Burgess off us
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Oooooooh get you
there is a Private Messaging system you can use if you want a private conversation
This is a forum, which by definition is a place for open discussion Mr Sulkypants
'" Is that an attempt to stop yourself looking silly.
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| Quote ="mat"bit like way you over-rely on peacock in same way
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No because peacock is established as a prop where burgess is better in the back row imo plus peacock isn't carrying an average team whereas sam....................
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| Quote ="redeverready"Is that an attempt to stop yourself looking silly.'"
i have no need to,
im not the one who made a completely random conclusion, then threw a hissy fit because someone picked them up on it,
now, rather than completely descending into little girl status, why dont you explain to the class how this statement
Eastwood makes solomona look Crap
lead you to conclude
[iBy eck Eastwood must be shiite then[/i
then maybe you could also explain why it got your panties in to such a twist?
or do we get to carry on playing transference, the game where [iyou[/i defend [iyourself[/i by accusing others of doing what [iyou[/i are?
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| Quote ="Marky P Hushman"Probably is the strongest pack in the league, certainley better than Leeds.
Lets compare probable starting packs for start of SL
Burgess Vs Leuluai - Burgess by 10 mile
Newton Vs Buderus - nothing in it really, Newton is as good as anybody, Buderus might not even be fit
Lynch Vs Peacock - Peacock just
Menzies Vs Buchanan - Menzies by 10 mile
Morrison Vs Lauitiiti - Morrison by 10 mile
Langley Vs Sinfield - Sinfield by a bit
Its our 5/8 and 3/4 that worry me.
Burrow couldnt lace Deacons boots if he tried, he's got one game, thats run. Mcguire I like, I think its harsh to say he's just a support player, hes much more than that, Jeffries is a poor one in my mind.
Leeds have the edge in the back s though by a 10 mile.
Platt Vs Webb - Webb by 10 mile
Sheriffe Vs Donald - Donald by 10 Mile
Sykes Vs Senior - Senior by 10 mile
Nero vs Smith - Smith is ordinary, and definatley not a centre
Tadulala Vs Hall - Tadulala by 10 mile'"
Buderus and Newton tight to call .
Newton couldn't make the England squad, and you're comparing him to the New South Wales captain.
Menzies and Morrison are past it.
Webb Platt
Donald Tadulala
Smith Nero
Senior Sykes
Halll Sheriffe
McGuire Jeffries
Burrow Deacon
Leulaui Burgess
Buderus Newton - It's laughable you compare them
Peacock Lynch
JJB Morrison
Ablett Menzies
Sinfield Langley
Diskin Godwin
Lauitiiti Worrincy
Eastwood Solomona
Bailey Scruton
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| Quote ="rhino77"Buderus and Newton tight to call
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Newton couldn't make the England squad, and you're comparing him to the New South Wales captain.
Menzies and Morrison are past it.
Webb Platt
Donald Tadulala
Smith Nero
Senior Sykes
Halll Sheriffe
McGuire Jeffries
Burrow Deacon
Leulaui Burgess
Buderus Newton - It's laughable you compare them
Peacock Lynch
JJB Morrison
Ablett Menzies
Sinfield Langley
Diskin Godwin
Lauitiiti Worrincy
Eastwood Solomona
Bailey Scruton'" That's because he was injured.
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| Guffaw.
I mean, really, guffaw.
I honestly don't know how, with such an inferior pack, we struggled past you in those four matches last season.
I won't compare players on paper. Games are won and lost on the pitch. Championships are won and lost at Old trafford and the Leeds pack have delivered two in a row there so this great Bulls pack have quite a lot to do yet and the Leeds pack has little to prove to biased message board fekkwitts.
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| Quote ="Marky P Hushman"Probably is the strongest pack in the league, certainley better than Leeds.
Lets compare probable starting packs for start of SL
Burgess Vs Leuluai - Burgess by 10 mile
Newton Vs Buderus - nothing in it really, Newton is as good as anybody, Buderus might not even be fit
Lynch Vs Peacock - Peacock just
Menzies Vs Buchanan - Menzies by 10 mile
Morrison Vs Lauitiiti - Morrison by 10 mile
Langley Vs Sinfield - Sinfield by a bit
Its our 5/8 and 3/4 that worry me.
Burrow couldnt lace Deacons boots if he tried, he's got one game, thats run. Mcguire I like, I think its harsh to say he's just a support player, hes much more than that, Jeffries is a poor one in my mind.
Leeds have the edge in the back s though by a 10 mile.
Platt Vs Webb - Webb by 10 mile
Sheriffe Vs Donald - Donald by 10 Mile
Sykes Vs Senior - Senior by 10 mile
Nero vs Smith - Smith is ordinary, and definatley not a centre
Tadulala Vs Hall - Tadulala by 10 mile'"
buchanon by a....a gajillion miles.
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| Paper teams win paper cups.
The majority of the pack you are ejaculating over are the same players that have made stupid mistakes, given away silly penalties, had defensive lapses and generally failed to set a consistent pattern in the big games, for what can only be described as a cesspit of mediocre backs.
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| Quote ="Marky P Hushman"Probably is the strongest pack in the league, certainley better than Leeds.
Lets compare probable starting packs for start of SL
Burgess Vs Leuluai - Burgess by 10 mile
Newton Vs Buderus - nothing in it really, Newton is as good as anybody, Buderus might not even be fit
Lynch Vs Peacock - Peacock just
Menzies Vs Buchanan - Menzies by 10 mile
Morrison Vs Lauitiiti - Morrison by 10 mile
Langley Vs Sinfield - Sinfield by a bit
Its our 5/8 and 3/4 that worry me.
Burrow couldnt lace Deacons boots if he tried, he's got one game, thats run. Mcguire I like, I think its harsh to say he's just a support player, hes much more than that, Jeffries is a poor one in my mind.
Leeds have the edge in the back s though by a 10 mile.
Platt Vs Webb - Webb by 10 mile
Sheriffe Vs Donald - Donald by 10 Mile
Sykes Vs Senior - Senior by 10 mile
Nero vs Smith - Smith is ordinary, and definatley not a centre
Tadulala Vs Hall - Tadulala by 10 mile'"
That's some seriously strong stuff you've been smoking.
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| The strongest pack in SL next season will be the one that plays above its individual talents as a unit, is supremely fit and highly motivated, and has the good fortune to remain injury free with a quality squad back up for rotation
Comparing one player from a team to one in another for specific positions is not germain
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"The strongest pack in SL next season will be the one that plays above its individual talents as a unit, is supremely fit and highly motivated, and has the good fortune to remain injury free with a quality squad back up for rotation
Comparing one player from a team to one in another for specific positions is not germain'"
at last - some one who seems to understand the game of rugby league
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| Er, back on page one...
Quote ="af"Wait till it gets on the park. The Leeds pack of '98 was far stronger than the sum of its parts, and the Wigan pack of 01 was not so hot despite the people in it.'"
Quote ="G1"I won't compare players on paper.'"
And no one's asking you to - this is the interweb, with all its electrickery.
Leeds' were miles ahead of us last year, though each of their four wins was delivered with a significantly closer margin of victory as the season progressed. However, a look at the pack suggests that there is the perssonel there to perhaps have the edge over the defending champions there, surely a worthwhile observation given the seemingly widespread belief that the Bulls will not challenge this year. As for the backs, I think I'll start [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=387899another thread[/url.
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| =blue1. Stuart Reardon
2. Paul Johnson
3. Martin Gleeson
4. Matt King
19. Chris Riley
5. Kevin Penny
6. Lee Briers
7. Michael Monaghan
23. Chris Hicks
25. Chris Bridge
=red8. Adrian Morley
9. Jon Clarke
10. Paul Rauhihi
11. Louis Anderson
12. Ben Westwood
13. Vinnie Anderson
14. Micky Higham
15. Paul Wood
16. Gareth Carvell
17. Steve Pickersgill
18. Mike Cooper
22. Lee Mitchell
20. Simon Grix
21. Matty Blythe
24. Ben Harrison
As usual with us, we look good on paper, we're just e on grass.
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| Punisher me old mate,games arnt won on paper.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"=blue1. Stuart Reardon
2. Paul Johnson
3. Martin Gleeson
4. Matt King
19. Chris Riley
5. Kevin Penny
6. Lee Briers
7. Michael Monaghan
23. Chris Hicks
25. Chris Bridge
=red8. Adrian Morley
9. Jon Clarke
10. Paul Rauhihi
11. Louis Anderson
12. Ben Westwood
13. Vinnie Anderson
14. Micky Higham
15. Paul Wood
16. Gareth Carvell
17. Steve Pickersgill
18. Mike Cooper
22. Lee Mitchell
20. Simon Grix
21. Matty Blythe
24. Ben Harrison
As usual with us, we look good on paper, we're just poop on grass.'"
By as usual do you mean - last season?
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| Quote ="Marky P Hushman"Burrow couldnt lace Deacons boots if he tried, he's got one game, thats run. '"
2008
Deacon
Tries 3
Try assists 14
Meters 830
Carries 226
Tackles 265
Offloads 8
Attacking Kicks 118
Runs from dummy half 16
Tackle Busts 12
Marker tackles 23
Clean Breaks 4
Forty twenty 1
Kicks in general play 195
Burrow
13 Tries
15 Try assists
2065 Meters
349 Carries
278 Tackles
14 Offloads
38 Attacking Kicks
112 Runs from dummy half
70 Tackle Busts
23 Marker tackles
12 Clean Breaks
0 Forty twenty
97 Kicks in general play
HTH
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| Quote ="tigertot"2008
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Tries 3
Try assists 14
Meters 830
Carries 226
Tackles 265
Offloads 8
Attacking Kicks 118
Runs from dummy half 16
Tackle Busts 12
Marker tackles 23
Clean Breaks 4
Forty twenty 1
Kicks in general play 195
Burrow
13 Tries
15 Try assists
2065 Meters
349 Carries
278 Tackles
14 Offloads
38 Attacking Kicks
112 Runs from dummy half
70 Tackle Busts
23 Marker tackles
12 Clean Breaks
0 Forty twenty
97 Kicks in general play
HTH'"
. . . . perhaps they forgot to say . . . "on the kicking front" . . .
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