Bit OTT that. Wigan were always going to be a tough ask even with Herbet, Briggs & Langley. We showed very little creativity near their line and that's fair enough seeing as we missed both our halves.

It could have been a lot worse. It was always going to be damage limitation.

Got to agree on a lot of those points, there were few, if any, positives today.

As much support I have for Potter, I think he bottled it with today's selection. You simply can't afford to go into a Superleague game, not least against Wigan, without recognised halfbacks. Why the hell wasn't Addy picked, or better Southernwood?

I think it was a poor reflection that Kearney got MOM, he deserved it on effort, but he didn't put a good pass on all game.

After last week's encouraging performance, today's was absolutely terrible. The lads need a good kick up the backside this week, starting with a heavy session tomorrow. The desire shown last week seemed to be hiding this week, not a good afternoon to be stood at Odsal with little to clap about.

We were always going to struggle today playing with no half backs againts the best team in the league, but having no half backs doesnt excuse our poor defence we look no different from last season when it comes to defending out wide we get drawn in so easily.

We had both our halfs out injured, we are a new team and you're saying we are not going to get a better chance to beat Wigan?

Outclassed today by a very good Wigan side unfortunately. They're extremely tough to break down and despite Kearney's best efforts we never looked likely to score enough points. We once again didn't get much rub of the green from the officials but unlike last week it would have made little difference to the end result.

The lack of creativity is understandable given the key players we had out, I have no doubt the club would move for a creative 13 or halfback if a decent one became available to bolster this weak area in our squad.

Potter will be disappointed with some of the plays that continually gifted Wigan possession on our 40m line which put us under some pressure in the 1st half. That extra work in defence led to some poor attempts at tackles towards the end.

This game has come a little bit too early for us, but we'll be a much better side the next time we face Wigan.

On a positive note, how great was it to see Odsal packed out?

Poor performance. Defence terrible. No creativity.

Why wouldn't we get a better chance against Wigan. They'll have had a flogging in training after last week, and they were always going to come out all guns blazing for 80 minutes.

My optimism hasn't gone, even though i am extremely disappointed with that performance. We were never going to break that (superb) defence down by playing one man rugby. Admittedly it would be difficult for any side without their halfbacks, but they shouldn't be the only source of creativity. Obviously they are the main one, but there should be other players in the squad to create something.

If Herbert isn't back next week then I really think Southernwood should get a chance. Okay, he's not ready physically, but a couple of games isn't too much to ask imo.

Sykes offers nothing in the halves, and whilst he did try, he was reluctant to pass the ball and he didn't make any decent ones. You can't play in the halves if you're not going to get the ball out.

Bryn at 13 baffled me too, when we are without halves we need extra creativity in the side - Addy should've been in imo.

Utter rubbish. I had to check the date to make sure it was not 2010 all over again. Clueless going forward, players playing out of position, players who can't catch or pass or tackle. Dire.
That was a poor Wigan performance and the put 40 past us, at home.
All my early season optimism has just well and truely gone.

And why no Addy? So lets play a prop at 13, a full back at scrum half and Sykes at 6 and leave Southernwood out altogether. I don't get it at all.

I think there is inevitably a bit of over-reaction on here (and on Radio Leeds, listening in the car on the way home)

We came up against a very professional (albeit somewhat cynical) team today and came up well short. I haven't seen the stats, but I'm pretty sure we spent as much time in their half with the ball in hand, as they did in ours. The big difference was that they converted something like 60-70% of attacking possession into a try. That's simply the result of professionalism, slick play, speed of thought and the fact that the team has been well drilled over a period of time.

We looked a bit undercooked by comparison. There were some good signs I thought, and no lack of effort. I think the guys gave it their best shot, but were second best in everything really.

I don't actually think Sykes was all that bad, but he's clearly no stand off - he just doesn't have the speed of thought and execution to make a No 6. That's because he isn't one. I'd like to hear Mick Potter explain why Addy didn't get the start in that slot. Given that he wasn't even on the bench, perhaps there was a late injury? Perhaps would also explain why Hargreaves started at 13 - a bizarre choice I felt

Great to see Odsal jumping, and must confess the hairs on the back on my neck stood up when the fireworks went off and the entire main stand stood to clap the team onto the pitch.

But, keep the faith. We will improve, I am sure

It wasn't the best - but it was by no means poor. Tomkins was sheer class for them. Their defence was absolutely outstanding too.

A poor Wigan performance? Did you actually go to the game?
Not seen a team defend as well as they did today in a long time they are going to be a tough team to beat this year.

Where was Briggs?

Out for 4-6 weeks. Ligaments.

Poor Wigan performance? Some of the passing and the running off the ball was a joy to watch from Wigan. The speed of their defensive line is killed us and just didn't allow us to make ground.

Disappointing performances from some of our players but reality check time.. we are two games in with no halfbacks and a shed load of new players playing against the best side in the comp. That doesn't excuse all of what we saw today but at the same time perhaps a little too early to reach for the rope.

Impotent in attack, clueless in defence. Team selections straight out of the McNamara handbook.

Hard to see us beating Crusaders next week on that showing or Wakefield the week after. All that early enthusiasm was wiped out today. Last week was clearly a flash in the pan.

Looks like Sykes took a knock late on, fingers crossed it keeps him out a while. That guy isn't fit to play in NL2.

V disappointed all round.

Yes, unfortunately.
They defended well, got away with lots, then kicked for territory, and waited for our inevitable mistake. I was not particularly inspired by them, no.

Potter certainly needs to work on our defence out wide, our wingers get sucked in far too easy.
Hargreaves is far too big, and not quick enough to play at Loose, he's a quality prop, but that was a bad call from Potter.

STFU

He put in 100% effort. I'm sure he didn't ask to be played at 6 - but he's playing where he's been asked and trying his best.

Oh my God, reading some of the posts on here makes me worry if you've jumped off of a roof shortly after. Take the positives!

Yes, it really wasn't the best performance. We did too much work in defence in the first half which took it's toll. A few silly errors, like Raynor trying to get the ball out in the first half, which Wigan scored from, and a lack of discipline at times cost us. Plenty to work on for Potter in that aspect.

BUT, we had no halves, and Herbert will be back next week. We were also playing the best team in the competition by a long, long way and they'll do that to better teams than us over the course of the season. It was disappointing to see us get rolled over like that for sure, but we'll improve.

Let's not descend into 2010, because you all fully well know it ain't gonna be that bad.

I wouldnt wish for anyone to get injured, but i would'nt have Sykes in the 17.

I wondered when Sykes would be mentioned. I just hope he isn't crucified on here and made the scapegoat for today's loss.

I doubt he would of chosen his 1st game of the season to be playing 6 against the SL Champions either. Especially in a game where we struggled to make yards and give him space to work in. He's not a stand off but then we already knew that from last year.

Sykes can't pass a ball properly, every pass he gave the receiving player had to jump to catch it.

I think we had a poor share of the penalties, touch judge coming on to disallow tries but then missing other things to penalise Wigan, it may just be me but everything was going wigan's way. Am I blaming the ref, no not really and i'm not surprised we lost with our two half's being injured but for me that didn't feel like the scoreline it ended up at... maybe I'm just feeling nostalgic at the 15,000 attendance.

Wigan converted their possession into tries, something we just didn't do....but we'll sort that out I'm sure, I think MP's as other people have pointed out needs to review a couple of performances and change a few people in and out...Sibbet looks a liability, and Sykes is no half back

If everyone was fully fit he probably wouldn't be.

He was poor - but he's not a 6. He gave 100% and you can't ask for much more than that.

Lets hope it's only the minority who will condemn him. His effort when playing out of position should be applauded.