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| So the bottom line (according to the updates Squad List thread) we have 19 people in the first team squad
Two are currently injured (Hodgson, Farrell), one is suspended (Flanagan) and one lad hasn't ever played in a competitive first team game (Shackleton)
We're going to need a few more people than a couple of Rhinos loanees...
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| Can anyone explain to me why Evans has gone "on loan"? Why hasn´t he signed a one year contract? Does this mean that if Leeds decide he is surplus to requirements (or gets crocked for the rest of the season) that they can terminate the loan and send him back to us? Or is he contracted to the Bulls for the 2021 season and will return to us at the end of this coming season?
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| Quote ="bull on a canary"Can anyone explain to me why Evans has gone "on loan"? Why hasn´t he signed a one year contract? Does this mean that if Leeds decide he is surplus to requirements (or gets crocked for the rest of the season) that they can terminate the loan and send him back to us? Or is he contracted to the Bulls for the 2021 season and will return to us at the end of this coming season?'"
If he's contracted to the Bulls for 2021 he'll return unless any release clauses (such as interest from a SL club) are activated. As for coming back during 2020 that will depend on whether any termination clause that may have been included in the loan agreement is met/activated.
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| Quote ="bull on a canary"Can anyone explain to me why Evans has gone "on loan"? Why hasn´t he signed a one year contract? Does this mean that if Leeds decide he is surplus to requirements (or gets crocked for the rest of the season) that they can terminate the loan and send him back to us? Or is he contracted to the Bulls for the 2021 season and will return to us at the end of this coming season?'"
Evans isn't contracted for 2021.
[urlhttps://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/17993430.bradford-bulls-announce-one-year-deal-rhys-evans/[/url
It's something to do with getting transfers through quicker. I don't know the ins and outs, but other clubs have done it in the past (Chisholm to Fev last year for example, Roche to Bradford) when there's every intention of it being a permanent signing but they start out on loan while it gets sorted. That way they can join immediately. I've genuinely never seen the exact thinking behind it, but it's something along those lines.
I don't think for a minute it's anything to do with him being recalled and fully expect it'll be a permanent transfer in the next month or two.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Evans isn't contracted for 2021.
[urlhttps://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/17993430.bradford-bulls-announce-one-year-deal-rhys-evans/[/url
It's something to do with getting transfers through quicker. I don't know the ins and outs, but other clubs have done it in the past (Chisholm to Fev last year for example, Roche to Bradford) when there's every intention of it being a permanent signing but they start out on loan while it gets sorted. That way they can join immediately. I've genuinely never seen the exact thinking behind it, but it's something along those lines.
I don't think for a minute it's anything to do with him being recalled and fully expect it'll be a permanent transfer in the next month or two.'"
Not sure it's to make things happen quicker but probably more of a 'trial' to see if both parties 'fit'
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"Not sure it's to make things happen quicker but probably more of a 'trial' to see if both parties 'fit''"
or more a case of seeing if Evans can stay fit. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets injured and they terminate loan deal and we're left paying for a injured player. Likewise with the incoming leeds players, would these be season long loan deals with a recall option after first month? so really just a rolling loan to keep them match fit for when leeds need them.
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| Send in a question to ask the bulls. If it’s a genuine season long loan there will be no recall option, injured or not is my understanding
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| I think it’s a play on words, he is contracted to bradford till the end of 2020, so in effect no matter what he is no longer a bulls player
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| On the subject of those leaving (or left), League Express have done a "Rookies to excite us in 2020" feature, picking one from each Super League club. Huddersfield's is Oliver Wilson and Hull KR's is Matthew Storton. Both sold in the last 12 months to pay the Bradford bills.
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| Still can’t believe where we are with the season just around the corner, still no news on duel reg possibilities, all the players who have left and still leaving and we have replaced them with 3 signings, 100% bottom four, at best
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Still can’t believe where we are with the season just around the corner, still no news on duel reg possibilities, all the players who have left and still leaving and we have replaced them with 3 signings, 100% bottom four, at best'"
Agreed.
To be pedantic we have brought in England, Barlow, Rooks, ,Nzungu, Johnson and i suppose Milnes is an out then in
But your point still stands 100%. With what we have at the moment ill be happy if we just stay up.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Agreed.
To be pedantic we have brought in England, Barlow, Rooks, ,Nzungu, Johnson and i suppose Milnes is an out then in
But your point still stands 100%. With what we have at the moment ill be happy if we just stay up.'"
Isn't that what this season is about? Treading water until we get back to Bradford, trying to not lose too many fans?
TBH though I thought with the money we would save by not being at Odsal we could afford to replace the players sold off. Apparently not.
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| I think the money we have saved has gone to pay people off. When AC first muted about moving and a reduction in costs he failed to tell us we had a long list of creditors that needed paying off
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"I think the money we have saved has gone to pay people off. When AC first muted about moving and a reduction in costs he failed to tell us we had a long list of creditors that needed paying off'"
Yeah, but he was one of the biggest and wrote his debt off
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| Quote ="roofaldo2":21p5vowiYeah, but he was one of the biggest and wrote his debt off'"
And just to really make me smile a certain w@nker is now following me on Twitter, not that I ever put anything on there, but I can see all the e they put. Don’t know how to delete them as well ha. If anybody doesn’t know who it is, it’s an anagram of egg nest
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| The point I’m making is that AC sold us savings and despite writing his debt off we still seemingly have plenty of other creditors to settle or now settled. Somehow I don’t think at the end of the season we will be cash rich
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"The point I’m making is that AC sold us savings and despite writing his debt off we still seemingly have plenty of other creditors to settle or now settled. Somehow I don’t think at the end of the season we will be cash rich'"
Because he is =#FF0000[EDIT - to avoid you or RLFans getting into hot water I've taken that bit out - Pumpers Does that fill anybody with confidence??
Chalmers has not written debt off, it’s just another load of lies from him and his mate.
I know there is only one reason Wood is involved, the land. Believe me, I know that is the case.
Don’t you think it’s strange he hasn’t said anything since all this come to light back in October. People once again are getting fooled
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| You sure Roger? The Council own the land and I'm sure the original long term lease included a clause that said Rugby League had to be played regularly at Odsal or the lease could be voided and the ground returned back to the Council! There's no way Wood could manipulate a land deal directly or indirectly via third parties!
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| Wood was involved in council discussions about Richard Dunn's, selling Odsal and 'moving the RFL HQ to a new site' on Richard Dunn site.
He's been there with the RFL since the start and now with us. He knows the situation inside out and having got his fingers burnt selling Thrum Hall he's more experienced this time round. He know's there's money to be made. Walk away from Odsal though and that's gone. The only thing I don't get is why he let AC pull that stunt?
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| I got a very long message on Twitter last night from the d1ck nestegg last night. If I knew how to put it on here I would, asking me if I have any information to help them in their cause. What an idiot. Told him to eff off
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| Quote ="roger daly"I got a very long message on Twitter last night from the d1ck nestegg last night. If I knew how to put it on here I would, asking me if I have any information to help them in their cause. What an idiot. Told him to eff off'"
Hi mate
I have had the same Chris, I have spoken to one of the people he is asking for info about (not Mick) and the mans a complete nutjob. I got sent a picture of him, he turned up at our rugby club pretending to be from sport england using a different name promising to get the club money from the RFL for players who went made pro debuts! Said the RFL had fraudulently taken the money and not dished it out! Needs to totally quit his tirades
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| Signed Dan Waite-Pullan from Leeds. Seems to be signing rather than loan which is good. Another of our academy products comes home.
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| Quote ="Highlander"Signed Dan Waite-Pullan from Leeds. Seems to be signing rather than loan which is good. Another of our academy products comes home.'"
Maybe we will see a few of these next year from Leeds,release the player for the year but agree to re-sign them in a year sure they did it with Featherstone before to get round the 5 player limit
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| Quote ="bulls2487"Maybe we will see a few of these next year from Leeds,release the player for the year but agree to re-sign them in a year sure they did it with Featherstone before to get round the 5 player limit'"
Exactly the point I was going to make. They've done it with Fev in the past. I can almost guarantee that if Leeds needed him this year, they'd mysteriously re-sign him before the end of the season too as they did with Luke Briscoe.
End of the day beggars can't be choosers at the moment so if they have to do this to get around the loan rules, so be it. At least it's a player with a history with the club and more likely to give a monkeys.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Exactly the point I was going to make. They've done it with Fev in the past. I can almost guarantee that if Leeds needed him this year, they'd mysteriously re-sign him before the end of the season too as they did with Luke Briscoe.
End of the day beggars can't be choosers at the moment so if they have to do this to get around the loan rules, so be it. At least it's a player with a history with the club and more likely to give a monkeys.'"
Weren't Fev duel-reg with Leeds which was the arrangement of Briscoe going there then back again I believe.
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