Couldn't fault us for lack of effort or commitment, but have to agree we rarely looked like manufacturing a break or creating too much for that matter. Lack of pace again, particularly in the halves is obvious.

I disagree. People seem to forget that we actually scored 22 points, Leeds deservedly won the match but did not deserve as many as 37. It wasn't as bad an effort as some are making out. That we didn't score more was in fair part due to some very good Leeds defence, especially in the second half.

We were adversely affected by injuries and that is just stating a fact not an excuse. Langley was a big hole to fill, but that is what you have squads for, losing Kopczak OTOH after a few seconds and having to therefore play the entire game without him gave Leeds a fair leg up.

Gale is taking some stick but unfairly so in my opinion, because where your pack is being got the better off (which would be less likely with Koppy and Langley on the field) the halfbacks have much less chance to be on the front foot.

In the second half some of the several defensive lapses were due to too many tired players with effectively no remaining way to spell any of them, and especially in that heat, this must have taken its toll.

I also don't buy into the "lack of pace" theory, defensively the trick is not to let the Burrows and McGuires of this world break through the central defensive line in the first place. If they do, and you are playing a team like Leeds, Saints, Wire or Wigan who will have the support there in spades, that's what costs you the points, not lack of pace.

It was overall a disappointing performance in some ways, but taking everything into account, I'm not that upset by it, and much of what we did in adversity was actually good.

For me the differences were the obvious injury situation & McGuire's uncanny ability to always be there supporting any half chance, plus his added ability to finish off that half chance. I'm struggling to see why so many are bagging Gale, for a large part of the game I thought he tried manfully to create something without having the quality around him that Leeds had. Gale is not one to die wondering.

You know, I struggle to think back far enough to remember when we actually just lost to a better side. Leeds were better than us on the day and that really is all there is to it. Other teams get injuries (no really!) and have to play in the heat too.....

We had plenty of chances to get back into the gane at 24-18 but we blew chance after chance due to poor decision making, handling errors (far too many of them) and a complete lack of invention when near the line. The heat and fatigue from having less interchange options may well have hit towards the end of the game but we had plenty of chances (including a 12 point lead at one stage) to get enough of a lead in order to cope with such.

But a mixture of clueless attack, good Leeds defence and utterly rotten Bradfords defence cost us more than any ref, weather or injuries IMO.

Losing Langley really wesakened us up the middle and around the ruck, IIRC Langley is our top marker tackler. With Burrow coming on we were vulnerable and it showed.

Losing three players to injury was a bad blow and it showed when we ran out of gas. Fatigue affects attack as well as defence and I think that caused a lot of our indecision near the line. We lacked a bit of patience when we needed to be clinical.

Funnily enough it was like the Leeds vs Saints game last week in that McDermott messed up his interchange and his side ended up running out of gas in the final quarter. A similar thing happened to us here due to injury.

On Gale I thought he did alright in attack considering the pack was on the back foot and he lacked quality runners. Defensively that miss that led directly to the try was disappointing, but looking at his defensive record for Quins we should expect that occasionally. I do agree that Jeffries has been out of sorts a bit but like has been said he's hardly the model of consistency.

On Pryce I was disappointed with his lack of workrate. With us struggling with injury I would've hope to have seen him take plenty of drives but he hardly seemed to bother. On Walker it was a shame to seem him get another knock but I thought he was blowing a bit anyway, I think it might have been a mistake to leave Addy out who must have been fitter (unless Potter knows something we don't).

McD tried the old McBanana trick of picking a sub & not using him against Saints. Worked a treat for McD as well.



I did my screaming at Pryce routine again, but this time from the safety of my settee. He handled everything that came to him competently, but the 6'6", 18 stone winger couldn't be d to do any more. Stealing a wage.

Has Webb been cited for his forearm smash on Kearneys head?

Really? Maybe it's because you never go to games. Why, just this weekend gone, we were beaten by a considerably better side. Have you suffered a recent blow to the head, perhaps?





You seem to miss the entire point of being a dedicated fan, and being able to spend the week (a) dissecting the game past and (b) anticipating the game coming up. You seem to entirely miss the point of the RAB forum. or any sports forum.





Wait a minute, you just said "Leeds were better than us on the day and that really is all there is to it." But there IS more to it? It may not be hard, but you're confusing me


You're really messing with my head now, just 2 minutes ago you said this was irrelevant as it was the same for both teams




Surely not, surely Leeds were better than us on the day and that really is all there is to it?


There seems to be a helluvalot more to it than you said there was.

You saw it all wrong:

Sammut got a match ban for that versus Hull KR so I expect he'll get similar... Oh hang....penalty sufficient. Must have been a quiet week for the disciplinary when Sammut was up!

Looked identical to Sammut to me.

Fekking disgrace.

But only to be expected. Webb gets away with allsorts in games; anyone remember three wild head high swings in a game at Odsal a couple of years back, I think he only got penalised for one. Someone should sit on him heavily - Tom Burgess would be about right....preferably from a great height.

Webb has a Leeds shirt on, that the main difference.

If i were Potter i would come out publicly and say tactically your going to get one of your players to hit Mcguire or Burrow in the face with the elbow while on the floor as quite clearly the RFL don't deem it any sort of an offence.

Pathetic and disgusting.

^ exactly why less and less people post these days. Well done.

If you think Webb pushing, not hitting, his forearm into Kearney's face deserves a ban then I suggest you take up watching tiddlywinks.

Not you as well. Now that is everyone out to get me.

You would have had Whitehead banned for doing the same thing as Webb then or is it because Webb plays for Leeds that he should be banned?
The only difference between the two offences is that you got a penalty and we didn`t .
Typical Bradford getting away with it.
Pathetic and disgusting.

And a joke.

I hope this hysteria over Webb continues when he moves to the Catalans.

I really don't see what the problem Bulls fans have with him, its not like he doesn't make it easier for your team with the constant stream of penalties from high shots and back chat. Remember the game he gifted to you by being 'offside' in the build-up to a certain try that was chalked off? You can't have it both ways.

Thanks, but then why hasn't it worked on you?

And forward passes!
But then again I am not sure who throws more Diskin or Webb.

I usually find myself defending pryce since he's on my wife's hate list (following on from platt, iestyn and mcavoy). But I had to laugh when the bloke next to her said after about an hour "why are you criticising pryce, he hasn't done anything"

Maybe so, but when he plays against us he never scores fewer that two tries so he's safer where he is.....