Not sure. Hoping it was just precaution as he was on all fours when the physio came on. Play went on a while before they called the stretcher so hopefully it's just precaution.

Very disappointing. We looked absolutely clueless on attack without Brough. Line speed and ruck speed was poor. We deffo need our replacement halfback in soon or there will be a few more drubbings on the horizon. I did think Brad England was good today and made some yards. Would like to see Sanderson given some game time or what was the point in signing him. Best wishes to Ebon, hope the injury is not too bad.

Unfortunately at the moment we offer nothing in attack via our 3/4s

Didn't expect to win but was really disappointed with that. We looked like a bunch of individuals doing their own thing rather than playing to any sort of game plan. We went away from everything's that's brought us all the wins recently. The respect for the ball was none existent and we were out own worst enemy.

If we don't manage to bring in a new HB, we have to go with Jowitt or Race to support Lilley as playing Pickersgill there's isn't working and also takes away his attacking threat from FB.

Its not as simple as Brough wasn't playing so we were crap. Wouldn't have mattered if he was there when DFJ and Walker both dropped the ball on the first tackle pretty much handing Fev the victory.

Tough one to take, but we recovered after the Sheffield game. Thankfully another week off to prepare for Widnes.

I think we still would have lost even with Brough in the side. Clear to see that we aren’t good enough to challenge the top 2 sides at the moment. 2 games against Fev and we’ve been well off the pace in both games. Hopefully getting this new halfback in will help our attacking creativity as it was nonexistent today.

He also seem to be picking up some injuries. How far off is Levy, Fleming and Murphy?

Levy is about 5 1/2 months away!!!

Well that was a sobering experience. 2nd best in all departments which with a few missing and Evans going off early laid us bare. The pack were mullered and I understand why in the heat he left the Walker and Scurr on the bench so long but going up the hill so light was a hopeless task.

On a plus side I thought Hamlett has some hands and had a good dig. The 2 chalked off tries didn't look any more forward than about half of Jones' passes. A good time for a week off.

Well off the pace and a very disappointing performance. I wasn't expecting a victory, especially with all the disruption from loan recalls, injury and covid but I thought we might give them a game.

Thought we had moved on from the Sheffield debacle but it kind of felt like we slipped back into that mindset. We can't play the next 3 months with a different half back partner for Lilley every fortnight and Pickersgill isn't a stand off. So if we cannot get a loan in who we can be confident of staying longer term surely we need to back a youngster for a run of games?

Sadly I fully expect we have 3 months of swapping and changing and playing people out of position to look forward to.

And we desperately need some quality on the wings, DFJ might cover a shirt against the lower sides but he is well out of his depth against the better sides.

I'll have to watch it back but we would have won if the ref had given that 45 point try near the end. So just one 50/50 call between us and a good win.

Hopefully it will lull Fev into a false sense of superiority when we meet them in the play-offs

False haha

I haven’t seen the game so I may be well off the mark here but a lot of you are banging on about attacking options such as:

Brough not playing.
Pickersgill loses his attack at 6.
Wings offer nothing.
Centres don’t offer anything.

My apologies but we’ve shipped 44 points? Surely it’s the defence that needs looking at? I understand we need to look after the ball but shipping 44 is alarming considering we’ve actually not had a bad defence since the Sheff game. Was it poor defence? Was it quality Fev attack? Was it an attitude problem?

The problem for me wasn’t the right edges attack it was absolutely woeful defence DFJ had his pants down on 3 or 4 occasions even hallas Bombed a few tackles a few players came through with credit; Burton, Hamlett, Crossley, Scurr maybe Brad England? Walker was back to being a nothing for me

Think we were exhausted towards the end. There were some poor missed tackles but Fev seem to have purple patches where they absolutely punish teams. I know I keep banging on about it but if we could have got to HT 14-0 down, we're still in that game, but DFJ knocked on on the 1st tackle and we survived it. We then got a penalty and instead of putting some pressure on them, Walker knocked on the first tackle as well.
Fev sensed blood and the entire team were steam rolling forward towards us. Doesn't matter how good at defending you are (which I think we are TBF) if you turn the ball over twice on the 1st tackle in back to back sets, to a team as good as Fev, you're going to be punished.

We just seemed to lose our heads and weren't prepared to go set for set with them. Too many players trying to do it all on things on their own.

We struggled across the line to stop metres after contact, particularly from Gale and Halton. The forwards were digging in and we had a score chalked off but when Evans went off injured after 10/15 minutes the ruck opened up and Jones cut us to bits. They had a bit of luck but the period up to half time when we went from 14-0 to 26-0 looked like exhaustion. Fev are a good side, big, strong, lots of support from Hall et al and few errors. Good sides who are winning the ruck always look fitter, but we were way down on energy and our heads dropped at times which will not please Kear. It looked like the natural display after the first half against Newcastle.

Pick to 6 didn't work, we lacked size and quality in the pack. Burton apart, the bench brought little energy and then Scurr was injured. Doyle spent all afternoon defending. Gallagher has gone backwards physically, Sam isn't back to speed. This is a big fortnight coming up for our season.

Losing all those players, the heat, playing the best side in the comp. This was always on the cards. Make a few errors and you're going to be severely punished and we were. It reminded me of the cup game in some ways.

Looks like we're in for a tough few weeks unless we can bring in a halfback for a decent period of time.

Bernard Dwyer hurled himself about with both biceps ruptured. I think Brough should just suck it up and get out there to help the lads. Big Softy.

Remember it well. Like a footballer running around with his arms by his side.

Scurr and Evans both come away unscathed after the Fev game. One minor positive.

i cant critisize nor pass judgement, just a listener ... but for me dual reg (back then),loan players for 2 weeks, cant be the way to go. gives rise to so much disruption. wot we faced against fev was 3 loanees going back a key palyer injured, reorganizing of the group (that has performed so well) into different positions then losing a player early so the bench was down to 3 and having just read the game comments others (forwards) also going off injured. just wasnt our day. fev also had key players out but like toulouse, still have quality. we could have had these conditions against lesser so called teams and maybe limped home, but it just had to be against one of the top runners of the championship

Just unlucky that we get key injuries and covid strikes causing us to lose our loan players both at the same time.

I don't like relying on loan players either but that's where the club is at the moment. All the more reason to bring on our own.

Disappointing performance without a doubt but I don’t think anyone realistically thought we would beat Fev. So overall if it had to happen against anyone, it might as well happen against one of the best teams in the league rather than a play off rival.

Keep concentrating on beating those around us and we will make the playoffs which most would have been happy with at the start of the season.

Desperately need some players back though

The talk in the main stand yesterday was that Joe Keyes is on his way.

Against York, we looked good, in control. But we had 4 players with current/recent SL experience- Brough, Murphy, Golding, Wilson who were all then lost for Fev.

That forced us to use fringe players that JK doesn’t seem to trust. But the positions don’t work. We used our best FB as an average half. We then used our best winger as an average FB. We put our shortest winger up against one of the tallest & most experienced wingers in the comp. Add in the heat, couple of unlucky injuries again , no wonder we couldn’t do ourselves justice.

Ultimately though, these Fev games don’t matter. The one in the playoffs does. This group have shown enough to get to the playoffs I think.

I'd thought the same tbh, get to a final and anything can happen.

If only we had a coach who was a one-off game master....