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| Quote ="atomic"Sorry, but what did you expect back from Leigh..Maybe a Nursery Rhyme.
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So you have never booed at a Rugby match..
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| Quote ="Steel City Bull"Goodness me, what next? Should we be apologising to other teams if we beat them by more than two scores?
I too have been to all games and friendlies and I have to say that the atmosphere, especially at the away games, have been excellent and good natured. I think the chants you refer to are "you're all one family" which at Batley turned to "We're all one family"...shocking, vile? Please lets not have to sanitise too much for the sake of political correctness.
ps. Did you hear the applause given to the Batley team on their exit from the field by the Bulls fans? (very well deserved too!)
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Yep, heard the applause, proud of it.
A couple of people seem to think I've said that absolutely every interaction between all fans at away games has sickened me to my core, when I've made it clear it's a minority and it doesn't offend me, it just makes me think that surely we're better than that. So for the record, yes the majority of banter is good natured as it always has been, and I'm not saying that anyone has been shockingly badly behaved or the absurd idea we should be apologising to teams. I didn't realise I had to write a dissertation on how amazing our fans are to be able to raise a minor criticism, I thought I'd take it as read.
As you'll have read in my original post I'm all for a bit of chanting and banter. Maybe I overstated my case a little, but you'll forgive me if I don't see the wit in implying the opposition fans are inbred, especially as it seemed off the back of absolutely no provocation. Didn't hear it flipped around at Batley, but I'm hardly a fan of that either. My point is, there are surely better things to chant than that? Apparently not.
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| Quote ="atomic"Sorry, but what did you expect back from Leigh..Maybe a Nursery Rhyme.
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Notice to certain Leigh fans - we aren't constantly talking about Leigh despite what you might think
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| Quote ="amberavenger":ccjbzm9rAgreed - hate it. Think some of the fans would have learned after chanting "Easy, Easy" at Leigh after 15 minutes...
In fact, there are some bizarre chants in general going on at away games - one at the Fev game (admittedly a very VERY small minority) chanting that all their fans were inbread or somesuch. Can't remember the exact content but it did seem a bit vile and unwarranted. I know we've never been a particularly big chanting following, and I certainly don't mind it or the good natured banter in general, but there seems to be a bit of undercurrent of unnecessary aggression with some fans. Again a minority, but I'm sure we never used to routinely boo the opposition onto the pitch - very noticeable at Leigh, and also happened in smaller numbers at Fev and Batley.'" impression of our fans and is not something I'd want to encourage.
It's hardly, 'hard core' hate chanting, and I suspect it's probably alcohol fuelled, but less is better, imo.
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| Quote ="chissitt"...no doubt you will incur this problem over attendances' most weeks, surely you would be better off talking about the team's success than how many fans you take with you...'"
Well, so far we "incurred" this "problem" just the once, at Batley, except it's not in any way a "problem" to anybody here, nor can a crowd figure be "incurred". It might though have been the first time a club has admitted it just made up the announced attendance!
The thread is about the Batley attendance, i.e. the "total" (that is, all fans, what we call "added up"icon_wink.gif. Not how many fans we may have taken with us.
And probably in the future if we do once again have some success, then we will talk about it; I don't know where you've been, but "success" and "Bulls" haven't been seen in the same sentence for a while now. You should google our recent history. If you do find any success in recent years, please let us know. We can't.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Well, so far we "incurred" this "problem" just the once, at Batley, except it's not in any way a "problem" to anybody here, nor can a crowd figure be "incurred". It might though have been the first time a club has admitted it just made up the announced attendance!'"
Well I for one am glad you have only incurred this problem only once, because if it happens on a regular basis and you persist in bigging up your attendances then your fans will become the Hull KR fans of the championship, and although the Batley official admitted he got the figures wrong, was it really to the tune of 4000.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The thread is about the Batley attendance, i.e. the "total" (that is, all fans, what we call "added up"icon_wink.gif. Not how many fans we may have taken with us.'"
I'm sorry, I thought this thread was about the enraged Bulls fans what supposedly went to Batley and have been ignored in the attendance figures when "added up"
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"And probably in the future if we do once again have some success, then we will talk about it; I don't know where you've been, but "success" and "Bulls" haven't been seen in the same sentence for a while now. You should google our recent history. If you do find any success in recent years, please let us know. We can't.'"
Your recent history is well documented squire which I'm not going to comment on as it's not my business, and as you say success has passed you by for a few years now, the success I refer to is the recent run of results this season albeit in the lower leagues and may your success continue, hope that clears that up and fwiw your attitude does you no credit
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well I for one am glad you have only incurred this problem only once, because if it happens on a regular basis and you persist in bigging up your attendances then your fans will become the Hull KR fans of the championship, and although the Batley official admitted he got the figures wrong, was it really to the tune of 4000. '"
Fail! We were in no way "bigging up" the attendance, just claiming it was patently wrong. We were proved right. "4000"? Nobody was suggesting it was a capacity crowd!
Quote ="chissitt"I'm sorry, I thought this thread was about the enraged Bulls fans what supposedly went to Batley and have been ignored in the attendance figures when "added up" '"
No, you didn't! First, who was "enraged" and why would anyone be "enraged"? Second, how absurd to even suggest anyone could identify which people had "not been counted"! You been on the juice or something?
Quote ="chissitt".. the success I refer to is the recent run of results this season albeit in the lower leagues '"
Er, winning a couple of early season games isn't "success"! Winning titles, trophies, that's "success"!
Quote ="chissitt"fwiw your attitude does you no credit
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"Attitude"? Whose? Mine? Bulls fans? What are you talking about now? All we did was rightly point out a fake attendance, deal with it!
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| You're all failing to understand that noticing things and mentioning them is SL-standard arrogance and those days are in the past.
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| Quote ="vbfg"You're all failing to understand that noticing things and mentioning them is SL-standard arrogance and those days are in the past.'"
Exactly. I also think the predictions league should be totally abolished, as predicting 6 teams will lose is very arrogant and disrespectful to those teams. Do you all not consider for even a moment the hurt you cause their fans?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Fail! We were in no way "bigging up" the attendance, just claiming it was patently wrong. We were proved right. "4000"?
Nobody was suggesting it was a capacity crowd!
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Quote ="HamsterChops"Something's wrong somewhere. Either the capacity is significantly less than 7,500 or the attendance yesterday was significantly more than 2,223. There is no way 5,000 more people could fit in that ground.'"
Well here's somebody that does not agree with you patently one of you is wrong
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"No, you didn't! First, who was "enraged" and why would anyone be "enraged"? Second, how absurd to even suggest anyone could identify which people had "not been counted"! You been on the juice or something?'"
I would suggest quite a few of the posters' on here were enraged otherwise why would most of them be up in arms over the apparent mistake in figures, and fwiw i totally agree with you that it's absurd that your fans thought that there was at least twice as many there as there actually was.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"eusa_think.gif Er, winning a couple of early season games isn't "success"! Winning titles, trophies, that's "success"!
"Attitude"?
Whose? Mine? Bulls fans? What are you talking about now? All we did was rightly point out a fake attendance, deal with it!
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Er with the lean years your club has suffered over the years, any run of wins must seem like success, but what do we know about success, as for the attitude it seems to me your the one what needs to drop the attitude, and as for rightly pointing out the fake attendance, I'll give you that, you were only 4k out
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well here's somebody that does not agree with you
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You've lost it mate. A claim that there was not [ispace for[/i another 5000 people is not, to anyone with basic English comprehension, the same as a claim there [i WAS [/ianother 5000 people. I hesitate to be rude, but that is a really dumb attempt at a point
Quote ="chissitt"I would suggest quite a few of the posters' on here were enraged '"
You can s'ugges't whatever ya like, does'n't make it any les's' abs'urd though
Quote ="chissitt"Er with the lean years your club has suffered over the years, any run of wins must seem like success, '"
Er.. no it musn't, and no, it doesn't. A couple of wins seems like - oddly enough - a couple of wins.
Quote ="chissitt" ..as for the attitude it seems to me your the one what needs to drop the attitude, and as for rightly pointing out the fake attendance, I'll give you that, you were only 4k out
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You are drunk! Go on, fess up! When ya sober up please do me a favour and point out where I claimed ANY figure for the attendance - much less 7K!
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| Quote ="chissitt"I would suggest quite a few of the posters' on here were enraged otherwise why would most of them be up in arms over the apparent mistake in figures'"
I have quite a lot of experience but I don't recall managing to type with my arms by my side. Perhaps that explains it.
You see anger. Others see discussion. One muppet saw an accusation of booing levelled at his team's supporters when it was a comment made by a Bulls fan at a small section of Bulls supporters.
I see the utter futility of online debate with anybody that has a pre-established opinion.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You've lost it mate. A claim that there was not [ispace for[/i another 5000 people is not, to anyone with basic English comprehension, the same as a claim there [iWAS [/ianother 5000 people. I hesitate to be rude, but that is a really dumb attempt at a point
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If your not trying to be rude then why do so, It's not me what is suggesting a deficiency of 5k but your friend above I merely pointed out that his post contradicted yours and that one of you must be wrong, if you cannot grasp basic English, or indeed my post is beyond your comprehension I will be happy to explain it in simpler terms.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"You can s'ugges't whatever ya like, does'n't make it any les's' abs'urd though
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I think that a 6 page thread suggests that it does not make it absurd.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Er.. no it musn't, and no, it doesn't. A couple of wins seems like - oddly enough - a couple of wins.
You are drunk! Go on, fess up! When ya sober up please do me a favour and point out where I claimed ANY figure for the attendance - much less 7K!
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It seems your arrogance is showing through already, this time last year you'd have been ecstatic with 4 wins out of 5, and fwiw I never said anything about you claiming about any specific figures for the attendance, but don't let that get in your way of selective misquoting and throwing a few insults in as well, anyway I don't want to outstay my welcome and as much as Iv'e enjoyed it, it's time to go, lets hope you have some proper success at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="martinwildbull"come on Chissit, try a bit harder, FA is answering you in his sleep,'"
Well thanks for that, it makes things so much clearer now
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| I thought I was making an observation based on spacial awareness and the amount of people I could see. As it happens, I was apparently making an arrogant statement that our club are the most amazing and successful in history, bring joy into the lives of millions every day, and were instrumental in the Berlin Wall coming down. Or some other b0llocks, I don't know I stopped reading...
I would make an observation about this Chissitt fellow, but I suspect he'd probably think that was something akin to me declaring war on Bolivia.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well thanks for that, it makes things so much clearer now
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I thought I was making an observation based on spacial awareness and the amount of people I could see. As it happens, I was apparently making an arrogant statement that our club are the most amazing and successful in history, bring joy into the lives of millions every day, and were instrumental in the Berlin Wall coming down. Or some other b0llocks, I don't know I stopped reading...
I would make an observation about this Chissitt fellow, but I suspect he'd probably think that was something akin to me declaring war on Bolivia.'"
As far as I'm aware you were only voicing your opinion as to what you perceived a reasonable attendance figure, and for my part I only used your post as a comparison to the special one's post in which he targeted me despite me having no direct or indirect dialogue with him, it would seem matey that you are just a victim of circumstances in all of this, and if I was you I'd forget all about global warming, and the fall of the Berlin wall, trust me none of it was your fault and nobody's blaming you, so my fatherly advice to you is pick your toys' up put them back in the pram and stop feeling sorry for yourself, some things are better not said, so if you feel that making an observation about me might cause a civil war in Bolivia best thing to do is say nowt. Good Luck
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In order to get a joke or reference you must be of .80 intelligence or higher.
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Thanks for the consideration you have shown in making that comment..Very much appreciated.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If your not trying to be rude then why do so, It's not me what is suggesting a deficiency of 5k but your friend above I merely pointed out that his post contradicted yours and that one of you must be wrong, if you cannot grasp basic English, or indeed my post is beyond your comprehension I will be happy to explain it in simpler terms. '"
Go on, then.
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No, you said you'd be happy to explain in simpler terms how one of us must be wrong, and we are waiting with bated breath for your explanation. In simpler terms.
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I am also struggling a bit with the complexity of this advice, and whilst you're kindly offering to give free English comprehension masterclasses for those of us not blessed with your mastery of expression, could you just help me with a couple of points?
1. Despite me having ribbed you rather obviously about your previous grocer's apostrophe, you s'eem to have s'lipped another one in. This seems unfortunate, for a self-proclaimed master of comprehension, so I assume it has some hidden import that us mere mortals cannot grasp, and not a case of you being barely literate, but could you jus't clear it up for us'?
2. There's an apparent flaw in your chosen metaphor: if Hamster Chops is analagous to an infant in a pram, who has thrown his toys out, then how could said infant reach those toys, in order to be able to pick them up? I mean, it doesn't immediately make sense. Surely, it would be the person looking after the infant who would have the task of toy retrieval and return, as that would be an impossibility for the infant?
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1. Despite me having ribbed you rather obviously about your previous grocer's apostrophe, you s'eem to have s'lipped another one in. This seems unfortunate, for a self-proclaimed master of comprehension, so I assume it has some hidden import that us mere mortals cannot grasp, and not a case of you being barely literate, but could you jus't clear it up for us'?
2. There's an apparent flaw in your chosen metaphor: if Hamster Chops is analagous to an infant in a pram, who has thrown his toys out, then how could said infant reach those toys, in order to be able to pick them up? I mean, it doesn't immediately make sense. Surely, it would be the person looking after the infant who would have the task of toy retrieval and return, as that would be an impossibility for the infant?
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Well actually theres a flaw in your post..You quoted.
Quote so my fatherly advice to you is pick your toys' up put them back in the pram ...'"
That makes part 2 of what you posted irrelevant..But keep the good work up..
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