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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I fear not. Bullseye made the very fair point that you can't keep playing all the youngsters for 80 mins week in week out as they won't be able to handle the physical aspects, early season is one thing, all fit and raring to go, 10 straight games in they'll not be able to walk.'"
True, but if you bring a couple of experienced and big forwards in now who can play most games, then the likes of Kirk, Bentley, Wilkinson etc. don't have to play every week. They can have a week off here, week off there. It's important though that we have those 2 experienced ones in first, supplemented with a few young loan lads to rotate with Bentley/Wilkinson/Kirk. I'd quite like to keep hold of Oledzki for that purpose, he's a big strong lad for his age and would go ok playing most but not all weeks.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops" I'd quite like to keep hold of Oledzki for that purpose, he's a big strong lad for his age and would go ok playing most but not all weeks.'"
Also if he gets knackered it becomes Leeds problem not ours
Ooops, did I just verbalise that?
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Quote ="Bullseye"Makes it all the more frustrating eh?
The young lads won't be physically up to playing at this level consistently for much longer before an 80 point stuffing is given out.
=#FF0000I hope we have some reinforcements before that happens.'"
How's about this fella.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mo ... -bradford/
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Quote ="Bullseye"Makes it all the more frustrating eh?
The young lads won't be physically up to playing at this level consistently for much longer before an 80 point stuffing is given out.
=#FF0000I hope we have some reinforcements before that happens.'"
How's about this fella.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/mo ... -bradford/
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| Moore would be a good signing but he's in court on 10th March and I'd be surprised if he avoids a stretch.
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Just another journalist who likes puns, at our expense:
Bradford’s squad remains lean following the club’s administration and liquidation in January.
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Just another journalist who likes puns, at our expense:
Bradford’s squad remains lean following the club’s administration and liquidation in January.
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| Full match is up on Youtube! Interesting that it's linked up with the ref so you can here the ref throughout.
Interesting that in the set straight after Thomas' try the linesman calls Rochdale's 12 offside. Then the ref says "It's okay just roll with it". Linesman also makes a few comments about their 12 'mistiming' tackles. So instead of a penalty the ref has a word when Rochdale pack down for a scrum.
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| Also when there is a break in play (ie Scrum). The ref is saying to the Rochdale players "10m lads. Don't be going too early. Last set was a bit early". Stuff like that. Why not bloody give the penalty then?
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Also when there is a break in play (ie Scrum). The ref is saying to the Rochdale players "10m lads. Don't be going too early. Last set was a bit early". Stuff like that. Why not bloody give the penalty then?'"
That's not the only thing he was lenient with penalties for. Regarding scrums, there were at least 3 seperate occasions when he restarted our scrum because the Rochdale players had done something wrong in it and not packed down properly or split too early. It unfuriates me that the solution to them not even being able to form a scrum properly (a really basic thing in Rugby League) is "oh you silly person, have another go" instead of a penalty. Once is bad enough, three times?!?!
The referee was painstakingly soft. He gave quite a few penalties, but in all honesty there should have been almost double the amount he gave. Referees are too scared now to penalise foul play because they don't want to be criticised for high penalty counts. High penalty counts are generally not the fault of the referee, they're the fault of poor discipline from the players. The ref should be there to penalise when needed, not to keep penalty counts low or even.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"That's not the only thing he was lenient with penalties for. Regarding scrums, there were at least 3 seperate occasions when he restarted our scrum because the Rochdale players had done something wrong in it and not packed down properly or split too early. [uIt unfuriates me that the solution to them not even being able to form a scrum properly (a really basic thing in Rugby League) is "oh you silly person, have another go" instead of a penalty[/u. Once is bad enough, three times?!?!
The referee was painstakingly soft. He gave quite a few penalties, but in all honesty there should have been almost double the amount he gave. Referees are too scared now to penalise foul play because they don't want to be criticised for high penalty counts. High penalty counts are generally not the fault of the referee, they're the fault of poor discipline from the players. The ref should be there to penalise when needed, not to keep penalty counts low or even.'"
This is key for me. Really annoys me. RL scrums are literally just get your head in and arms around. Done. No contesting or anything. Get it wrong once it should be a penalty.
When I watched the full game again last night it really amazed me how poor that ref was. His linesman gave about 8-10 correct decisions which were ignored by the ref and at least half of them would have changed the momentum and got us close to their line.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Also when there is a break in play (ie Scrum). The ref is saying to the Rochdale players "10m lads. Don't be going too early. Last set was a bit early". Stuff like that. Why not bloody give the penalty then?'"
Stuff like this annoys me no end. I do not think the refs should have to coach the players throughout the game. If they clamped down then for a few weeks it would be a complete mess but in the long run I feel the game would be better for it.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Also if he gets knackered it becomes Leeds problem not ours
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After what we have done for your lot you come up with that statement.
A bit out of order don`t you think?
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| Quote ="chapylad"After what we have done for your lot you come up with that statement.
A bit out of order don`t you think?'"
Does this mean you are going to give us some of that Iestyn Harris money back?
And while we [uare[/u grateful for the loans don't think that its purely altruism on the behalf of Leeds; they want to get these lads game time too.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Stuff like this annoys me no end. I do not think the refs should have to coach the players throughout the game. If they clamped down then for a few weeks it would be a complete mess but in the long run I feel the game would be better for it.'"
There's not a problem giving them advice. Obviously it depends how early they go. But give them a couple of warnings then ping them. The only problem you tend to get is refs give a warning to one team and then blow up regardless of which team infringes.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Stuff like this annoys me no end. I do not think the refs should have to coach the players throughout the game. If they clamped down then for a few weeks it would be a complete mess but in the long run I feel the game would be better for it.'"
Couldn't agree more. It's like when you hear the round ball crew saying that the problem of diving has got out of hand and there's nothing you can do about it. Yes there is. If a referee sees someone dive, he sends them off. If he doesn't see it, the match review panel picks up on it, and they ban them for 2 matches. Every single time. You'll have a few weeks of madness, before the coaches of the clubs suddenly turn round to the players and tell them to stop bloody diving as we've got no players available. Problem solved.
It's the same thing with any rule breaking. It's very easy to stop it providing you have referees and a disciplinary panel with some knackers.
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| Quote ="Fr13daY"Does this mean you are going to give us some of that Iestyn Harris money back?
And while we [uare[/u grateful for the loans don't think that its purely altruism on the behalf of Leeds; they want to get these lads game time too.'"
I somehow think that ship has sailed mate.
We need that money ourselves!
Yes totally agree and it should be a win win for both teams.
It was the injury comment that was out of order.
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| I seem to have inadvertently wandered on to the Wakey board.
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| Quote ="chapylad"I somehow think that ship has sailed mate.
We need that money ourselves!
Yes totally agree and it should be a win win for both teams.
It was the injury comment that was out of order.'"
Thank you L...., Thank you Le......, Thank you Lee........, Thank you L.. (no it wont come out)
Thanks for loaning us some players.
That Jordan Lilley is a cracking player.
Any chance we can ignore any requests to return him?
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| Haha you nearly said it.
How about you take McGuire or Sutcliffe and we have Lillley back?
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| Quote ="chapylad"Haha you nearly said it.
How about you take McGuire or Sutcliffe and we have Lillley back?'"
Sutcliffe played well for us last time we had him
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| Leeds have been great and maybe helping more yet.
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| Can we have Jamie Peacock back?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Can we have Jamie Peacock back?'"
Sod that, we'll have Brett Ferres back. He may have taken a long route to Headingley, but he can still come straight back now.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Leeds have been great and maybe helping more yet.'"
Yes, absolutely - I don't see ANY other clubs offering us help. Hull were full of it before the season started, they have no gone very quiet, and I don't see any of the clubs who bought our players to sit on their benches offering to loan them back, so thank you Leeds.
I suppose it is the least that they can do anyway, seeing as they caused all this in the first place...
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| Cas have been more than willing to help out & take unwanted players off your hands. Without so much as a thank you.
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