or even in the championship.

Incidentally, I see no reason why any 'new' club can't continue to use Bulls as a name. Northern continued as Northern after1963 and Avenue kept the Park Avenue name for their new club. Bulls, after all, is a far more marketable name and would be far easier to raise the flag around.

There's actually about 4 thousand of you who want to invest in the club, sadly, and wrongly imo, you think it's the end of your chances of getting back into the sl

Is there? How do you work that out?

unfortunately "invest" usually means getting a return on that investment...there is no profit in running a rugby club alone, it needs some other form of income to subsidise it. The men with money seem to want the club for nothing as long as they get the lease.....wonder why...would they subsidise the club enough to return it to former glory...at least a million a season or would they run it with the income from only the RFL, sponsors, gate receipts and merchandise...nowhere near enough to challenge for super league next season...it just seems that there are not that many philanthropists that enjoy rugby league out there who are not already connected to a club.

The size of your crowds just a couple of years ago, the willingness to pay over the top for a season ticket, merchandise sales, bull builder, the passion I've seen from your fans.
Your a city, you've got so many people and businesses to target for membership sales

Let's not be too hasty on the Leo Group bid. Were it not for a couple of posters on here and a twitter rumour, you wouldn't even know they were even bidding. Their name has not been mentioned by a single professional journalist yet. They themselves have not uttered a single word about this publicly.

Not sure where this talk of a biomass plant and no love for the club has come from. I think people are just making assumptions based on what little info they have at this point, which is fair enough, but at least wait until something official comes out before you write them off.

To be fair, I think j.c. is (for the right reasons) suggesting an alternative light at the end of the tunnel. Albeit feasible/not.

At the moment there are a dwindling number of tunnel options available to us; the light is barely visible in any of them; and at the moment we (as fans) do not have a say on the current tunnel Mr Reet-Petit is going to take us down.

I think Bulliac's comments on the difference in expectation between Park Avenue and Bulls fans is understandable and fair; we have been at the top, so our expectations will be that level for some time.

But I'm happy to keep the "fan-run team" in the back-pocket and revisit it after the vultures have finished picking the Bulls carcass clean.
I am by no means wealthy, but I'm happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with other passionate fans and put my money where my heart is.
We did it before; and we got our fingers burnt; but we'll learn from that; and not have some greedy egotistical business man steal our hard earned cash again.

The RFL have made a very clear statement that they want to keep a RL club in Bradford.

Lets face it - we may not think it will work - but in the next few weeks it may be the only option left if we want to support a Bradford based RL team

The catalogue of catastrophe that's been allowed to continue time over time is absolutely unbelievable and here we are at D Day.

Two bidders remaining which quite frankly have submitted bids bordering on the unacceptable.

Isn't this where the RFL come in with negotiations over the lease? They are working a solution to ensure anyone buying the lease can only use site for rugby aren't they?

These are not involved.

Do you mean the Leo Group aren't involved?

Wrong.

Where are the fans willing to give up time and money who have the expertise to run a club?

Anyone with that sort of resume has long since got disillusioned. The catalogue of misery has gone in too long.

I speak from experience as someone who chaired both BullBuilder and BISA. The people willing to do something have dwindled and many like me have had enough.

Do you know they were "bordering on the acceptable" or is that a summation?

Still trying to workout your user name,

KCN = Keighley Community Nursery

and BABT - because you meant to type BABY (as in nursery) and you hit "T" instead of "Y"?

Am I close?

No. Things never progressed from the meetings in the Southbank with the administrator and RFL.

Liquidate the club and miss the 2017 season before rejoining League One in 2018 as a phoenix club is my prediction.

It's looking increasingly like a future at Odsal is not a viable option , is there any potential council support that could result in a new stadium being built ?

The will to start a club from scratch is not there. People are not only disillusioned by what is going on at the Bulls but also with professional rugby in general. If the Bulls are liquidated people will either stop watching rugby altogether or gravitate towards their local clubs such as Queensbury, Dudley Hill etc.

Hahaha. Absolutely no chance.

Nrl subscription for me on Premier sports. Won't be bothering with the game in this country.

No. And to be honest we should not expect any. For a start, the council is cash strapped without supporting a rugby club. THere is also a professional soccer club in the city, how would that be balanced out regarding contributions. And we have Keighley RLFC that is also within the city boundaries. And, as I was reminded by REDEVERREADY we were given £5m by the council when we returned to Odsal from VP in exchanged for the now fabled lease conditions.

Exactly! But people obsessed with the idea and look at it basically as "they can start again and rebuild" completely overook the mood of the fans. If people like Bullseye are saying the above then the chances many from the core 4000 restarting the club are slim.

As another poster said, many (i'd say at least 1500) are children.

If there was a phoenix club it couldnt start for a year and that would reduce the extremely small pool of fans even more.

Then as someone else said you've got all the logistical issues of setting up a board. Getting a ground. Players. Sponsors. Dealing with agents. Merchandise. Sorting out the brand. Training facilities. Hhow many of the small pool of fans has the time and experise to sort that?

For me the biggest issue is whether the fans have the desire. I dont and im someone whos probably a little obsessed with RL. Support bullbuilder and all the championship grounds i can when we visit. Go to as many international matches as possible. I just don't have the desire to restart again after being robbed by Peter Hood, 3 admins and a liquidation.

The biggest killer for me will be losing one of the best acadmies in the country which as pretty much been entirely funded by the fans. That's one bitter pill too many to swallow.

Either way, the club will have no decent players left by the time this lot have finished hum-min and aaaring.What a disgrace.Welham and Clare almost gone now.
Trevor Foster will be turning in his grave.
Shambolic excuse for a BOD for years and years.

What are the plans for the Richard Dunn site ?

None at the moment.

The councils plans are: Errrrr......... let's see if someone will buy the Bulls and develop it for us.
The local council has recently shut several swimming pools after shelving plans to upgrade them. The council is on it's uppers.