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| Quote ="Bullseye"Shaw took ages but the ref did stop the clock from what I saw.'"
So for an 80 minute game, I think we watched Shaw looking at a ball on a tee for about 8 minutes.
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| How many penalties did Patton give away? Chat on Facebook said 5 but I'm not sure about that. If correct and he gets picked next week then I give up!
It's not the first time that discipline has been bad. We are brainless sometimes and so easy to wind up.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"How many penalties did Patton give away? Chat on Facebook said 5 but I'm not sure about that. If correct and he gets picked next week then I give up!
It's not the first time that discipline has been bad. We are brainless sometimes and so easy to wind up.'"
They had 3 kicks at goal off the back of him. The ref was a joke and that penalty at the end for a late hit on the kicker - I've seen it back on viaplay's youtube channel - was an absolutely garbage call, but we were our own worst enemy last night.
What's people's opinion on the bite? I think it's rubbish and we should be doing it to other teams from now on. Running up to the ref claiming someones been bitten or had their knackers grabbed. Again it's on the highlights on vaiplay youtube and there's no way the ref could possibly see it if it happened.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"On the biting incident, if he has bitten him he shouldn't play for us again. Horrible act.
But watching it on Viaplay just left me bemused. Barrows player arms around the mouth but there isn't a biting/clamping and then disappear behind the bodies. Barrow player then gets up waving his arm around for a good 2-3 seconds accusing of being bitten. Ref then calls time off (not give a penalty) looks at the arm then says he's seen it and sends off Taufua. Just bemusing how the camera angle showing the incident clearly didn't show anything, yet the ref saw the incident through all those bodies and yet didn't blow for a penalty and called time off after the player made a complaint. I think hes seen a mark on an arm and decided that's sufficient evidence. Again if he has bitten him, he shouldn't play again.'"
I don't think he did and it;s not the first time someones done that to get one of our players sent off and banned. Time we did it.
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| I wonder how much resigning business has been done already? If certain players aren't getting offered a new deal and they've been told, perhaps that might explain some half assed efforts.
You'd like to think players who give 100% til the end of the season and I'm sure some will, but equally I'm sure some might not.
I was hoping the mini run of form recently was this side turning a corner and buying into the new coaching setup, but it seems the inconsistencies will haunt us for a bit longer yet.
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| Just on the biting incident, watching the highlights on you tube, the referee certainly doesn't see Taufua bite the Barrow player as he claimed on the TV. His exact words were "I've seen him bite him me, I have" but watching the Bulls highlights where you can see the ref for the whole incident, he doesn't react until the Barrow player comes running up to him making the claim. It's a good 5 seconds after the incident.
He's effectively given a red card without seeing the incident "despite claiming to" and has gone on nothing more than an allegeded bite mark on an arm.
I genuinely don't know if he's bitten him, maybe the mark is clear, but the ref saying "I've seen him bite him me" when he clearly doesn't. Just doesn't sit right with me that incident.
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| Not a big fan of Patton, I’ve always felt he thought the championship was below him after his experience with Warrington. Reality is it’s about his level, but not a fan of his attitude, although his goal kicking is excellent that’s not enough reason to keep him moving forward and think we should get rid, and have Gaskell, Holmes half back partnership.
Think Holmes is more effective for the team at half back than fullback. Would like us to try bring in Hooley or Jowitt at full back moving forward.
Very disappointing result everything considered.
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| I agree with that. I hear Patton is going at the end of the year so why persist in selecting him if he's not giving 100%?
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| It was strongly rumoured we were offering him out to other clubs at the end of last season. Everyone deserves another chance and he’s clearly got some quality. A lot of our tries came off the back of him earlier on in the season but the downsides outweigh it for me and I think he needs to go.
Sadly another one who fails to live up to his potential
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Just on the biting incident, watching the highlights on you tube, the referee certainly doesn't see Taufua bite the Barrow player as he claimed on the TV. His exact words were "I've seen him bite him me, I have" but watching the Bulls highlights where you can see the ref for the whole incident, he doesn't react until the Barrow player comes running up to him making the claim. It's a good 5 seconds after the incident.
He's effectively given a red card without seeing the incident "despite claiming to" and has gone on nothing more than an allegeded bite mark on an arm.
I genuinely don't know if he's bitten him, maybe the mark is clear, but the ref saying "I've seen him bite him me" when he clearly doesn't. Just doesn't sit right with me that incident.'"
100% agree with this and was going to post something similar myself. The ref actually shouts "MOVE" after the player claiming the bite pulls away which strongly suggests that he didn't in fact see "the bite" at all.
Taufua makes no head movement towards the arm which suggests that the tackler must have had his arm wrapped around the head... penalty to us?
This will go against us again just as the GFS vs Bussey incident... no evidence of proof via the footage so they will go with the complainant as he seems a nice honest guy.
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| On the plus side the game made splendid Monday night viewing.
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| Always thought RL was a 13 man game. Patton didn't play well but still set up chances that should have been taken in the s/half. A few others could do with his passion - misplaced at times maybe.
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| Think I must have been watching someone disguised as Patton. The one I saw made aimless crossfield runs and offloaded the ball about 3m in front of the defence. He also seemed to give away penalties for fun.
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| He gotta go, he gotta go.......
And is apparently.
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| Sounds like we're going to be fighting the biting charge.
Sadly, if he gets found not guilty it almost brings into question the refs integrity (I personally don't think he's deliberately lied, think it's just a case of a young ref being caught in the headlights and panicking) I just can't see the RFL doing anything other than backing the ref despite the evidence clearly contradicting his version of "I've seen him bite him"
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Sounds like we're going to be fighting the biting charge.
Sadly, if he gets found not guilty it almost brings into question the refs integrity (I personally don't think he's deliberately lied, think it's just a case of a young ref being caught in the headlights and panicking) I just can't see the RFL doing anything other than backing the ref despite the evidence clearly contradicting his version of "I've seen him bite him"'"
It was a strange call from the official. When the tackle was completed he didn't blow the whistle and stop the game until the Barrow player made the complaint. If he has seen the incident the game should be stopped immediately and a sanction given out to the guilty player.
If we appeal/plead not guilty and still lose a bigger ban will be handed out. At least we have DFJ waiting in the wings.
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| As I see it the player put his forearm onto the mouth of Taufua. If this is right it would be hard not to have a teeth mark on his arm. Should the Barrow player not have had his arm there in the first place?
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| The fact that the Rfl had already stood the ref down for poor performance for the next round of games should help when we effectively criticise the ref - in that specific incident.
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| Tribunal delayed according to Mick. Anyone know why? Not sure I've ever known one to be delayed/postponed before. Not like they were snowed under with cases.
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| Does that mean that JT is free to play until the tribunal is rescheduled?
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| Quote ="dddooommm"Does that mean that JT is free to play until the tribunal is rescheduled?'"
Whos he going to play against? We dont have a game this weekend?
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| They'll hear the case before our next game. No reason given for the delay. Maybe they're waiting for dental records
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| Taufua banned for 6 games.
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| Be interested to read the minutes when they're out. Downgraded from grade F biting to Grade E "Other contrary behaviour"
Work that one out.
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