It was a scrappy game and we got the 2 points which was the main thing. I was a bit disappointed to see us let them back in it when we had got to 24-10 in front. Had there been longer left we could well have thrown it away.

There's still plenty to work on. We did some good things but the error count was way too high again. It was a good job they were even worse than us. On the plus side I thought Kopczak went well along with Ah Van and Kearney. Our right side defence was poor though with the cowardly lion getting three easy tries.

yes but three of hte games we have won have been by four points (twice) and two points, but the 4 games we have lost have been by an average of 21 points difference. So theres not a lot of scope for losing concentration/making basic mistakes as we have done in all three of those narrow wins. We are only just closing out games, but we need to [ucompletely[/u close them out. Not easy with so many changes at short notice, but thats why you have a squad.

hardly handbags, just dont see the need for him to criticise me when i was only being polite to the opposition, he jusged me on a computer username, his isnt exactly great is it?

People these days....

Lets stay on topic please.

Yes.

Herbert does nowt with the ball and takes the wrong option far to often.

average game from two average teams really. wasnt very enjoyable. We looked like we were playing a training match for most of the game. no real flair at all. Unfortunately I agree with those who aren't too impressed with herbert. He is very very average at the moment. Doesn't look interested most of the time and makes odd decisions. Every now and again there is a brilliant little pass but other than that he isn't bringing much to the team I don't feel. I think we will struggle against Hull on that showing today. I hoe Briggs gets fit and has a game soon as I really think he will bring some much needed creativity into the halves allowing kearney to play at FB and do what he does best from there.

yes!: Kops performance can only be 1) a tribute to his dad and 2) a massive boost to his self belief on top of the previous MOM, after living in a Burgess shadow hes really shaping up

Have to say that Karl Pryce seems to have finally got the message that he's in the last chance saloon.

He's finally using his size and strength as he always should have. Hopefully, from an international point of view, he can crack on and actually full fill his potential.

If Herbert wasn't an "Aussie" he'd have been dropped by now.

Who would you put in his place given Briggs isn't fit and Sykes isn't a halfback? Addy?

This kid we have in the 20's who's a natural 7 goes by the name of Southernwood.

A terrible first 30 minutes from the Bulls today, it looked like they hadn't met each other until 5 minutes before the kick off. Far too many dropped passes and poor efforts defensively.

We then all of a sudden upped the pace with 10 minutes to go and were rewarded with two tries, the second of which was an especially brave decision. 40 seconds to go and a penalty in front of the posts, most teams would have kicked for 2 and trotted off for an orange and a tea... but we didn't and we were rewarded handsomely.

Bulls were on top for most of the second half and looked comfortable until Price's late try. Not a great performance but a win is a win and we are up to .500 as the Americans would say (4wins, 4 defeats).

Regarding the pull back on Ainscough, from my view it looked like Child walked on to the field at the same time as Alibert was blowing his whistle. How on earth it wasn't a sinbinning I'll never know.

Burgess looked good in his short spell and it will be interesting to see if he gets more game time, Whitehead, Donaldson, Burgess... if only we could make a good half back...

We made Karl Price look unstopable today. He was far too quick and powerful for our edge defence. If only he could fulfill his potential, it would be great for England. I didn't quite understand him being booed as when ever I've seen him he has always come across as funny and polite and not at all like his brother.

There really is a bad atmosphere problem at Odsal now and I'm not sure how it can be fixed. We were outsung all match by 20 Quins fans, an embarressment in both respects.

Also, am I the only one who thinks we aren't playing with enough depth when attacking? We always seem to be too square on when we are moving across the field (hope this makes sense to someone!).

Off topic slightly, anyone know the score/scorers in the U-20 game played before the main fixture????

Really? Has he improved since the pre season friendlies?

Yeah, that was the main reason for the majority of dropped balls in the 1st half near their line. You give yourselves no room to move and the Quins defenders had nothing to think about.

I can't wait to see that first half completion rate mate. I think it could be under the 63% we had at Huddersfield.

Im sure I can remember 11 dropped balls at least off the top of my head so that'll be somewhere nearer 50%. I was going to do an error count too but it slipped my mind. Im actually glad because i'd have run out of ink

I think I know what you mean. Similar thing occurred to me. On our ball you could have covered 3/4s of our team with the Bulls banner that goes across the terrace.

Its the other ankle apparantly. Doesn't sound like a long term injury.

Exactly, we need players standing further back to give some space and to cause the defence to think.

We seem to play like this:

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Well maybe not like that, it's not meant to be a literal representation but something with more depth!

That didn't look like that before I posted it!!!!!

Know the problem mate.

Don't think it's very good at handling spaces.

You might have been better doing a full stop instead of a space, and an X instead of an *.

That said, I've never managed to get a decent graphic up on here yet

He's been performing quite well in the 20's, much better than the 2 games Briggs has played.

I caught the second half of the 20s and he playing pretty well. Looked bigger than I thought he was too. I actually didn't recognise him from the Dewsbury game.