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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Apparently Wakey have pulled out of talks with a quota player who plays in the front row. They have now signed a back row/front row player who has recently become available. I wonder if this could see the departure of Glen Hall to Wakey as many have predicted on here? (His departure that is, not always been rumoured to Wakey though)'"
would certainly open up more options for us as that would free up a quota spot.
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would certainly open up more options for us as that would free up a quota spot.'"
And if we're honest, get a large chunk of salary cap space back for someone who certainly has not earned it yet.
If Glenn stays, he has a lot of making up to do as he was very poor last year.
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| Disappointed to see Wayne leave - always gives 100%. I think he would find it hard to break into the team ahead of Heath & Diskin though. Can't see us letting him go for nothing unless we needed his cap space though, so hopefully an opportunity to sign a half has come up.
One thing I wondered is where is the competition for the hooking places now, obviously there will be a fight to start, but we are told O'Brien isn't quite ready for SL yet.
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| Say we are only 25-30 mins into game and disco or stranger are having a purple patch from starting do you withdraw simply cos it is time to share?
competition is there with the two but later in season obrien maybe ready and could cover for injuries whilst also making heath sweat about a contract.
Godwin and heath only had a year each and with disco coming in for longer makes it interesteing. unless hall is released early kearney or heath maybe sacrificed for the need of a strong half back/or other position next year.
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| Quote ="domthebull"Say we are only 25-30 mins into game and disco or stranger are having a purple patch from starting do you withdraw simply cos it is time to share?
competition is there with the two but later in season obrien maybe ready and could cover for injuries whilst also making heath sweat about a contract.
Godwin and heath only had a year each and with disco coming in for longer makes it interesteing. unless hall is released early kearney or heath maybe sacrificed for the need of a strong half back/or other position next year.'"
dont forget both herbert and ah van are also only on 1 yr deals so if they dont live upto expectations we have some flexibility re: quota spots next year.
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| G Burgess to Souths and John Sutton perhaps to Bulls acc to T&A. Maybe Hall to Wakey rumours might have some legs.
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| Story [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/8750589.Bye_George__Bulls__Burgess_bound_for_Oz_despite_South_Sydney_strife/=#800000here.[/url
Suddenly we are told about George - as if it was old news - and get an update on the Unspeakable One with the nearest yet to the formal confirmation that he is due monies from the club and that - you assume - the club is using that as a bargaining tool with the Sack of Rat Droppings with whom PH is said to have been negotiating.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Story [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/8750589.Bye_George__Bulls__Burgess_bound_for_Oz_despite_South_Sydney_strife/=#800000here.[/url
Suddenly we are told about George - as if it was old news - and get an update on the Unspeakable One with the nearest yet to the formal confirmation that he is due monies from the club and that - you assume - the club is using that as a bargaining tool with the Sack of Rat Droppings with whom PH is said to have been negotiating.'"
Communication from club re Godwin and burgess departures has certainly been poor. Would be nice if they put something on website instead off relying on t&a
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| Seems we were trying to get hold of ratchford! And John Sutton...(scrap my initial post here) not heard much about him but i see he has played state of origin!! Interesting that in the other T&A article today it mentions Bulls are still pursuing Leon!
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| Well, well, is Orford the villain we all made him out to be? £100k - imagine if you were owed that - wouldn't you be kicking up a bit of a fuss?
He's still left us in the lurch and knew what he was doing - but depending on when we actually stopped paying him and when these monies were actually due to him is something we will probably never learn.
If lawyers are involved it's always a bad sign. Imagine we may have to bite a bullet to some degree to allow us to register Herbert and potentially free up space on the cap if we are still counting Orford which nobody really knows.
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| Sutton.. played City Origin i think, not SOO, still not a bad level. Never really stood out when I've seen him, Benji Marshall was telling Sam that we would play a lot better if he was running off of him rather than Sutton!
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| Quote ="mat"Quote ="Adeybull"Story [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/8750589.Bye_George__Bulls__Burgess_bound_for_Oz_despite_South_Sydney_strife/=#800000here.[/url
Suddenly we are told about George - as if it was old news - and get an update on the Unspeakable One with the nearest yet to the formal confirmation that he is due monies from the club and that - you assume - the club is using that as a bargaining tool with the Sack of Rat Droppings with whom PH is said to have been negotiating.'"
Communication from club re Godwin and burgess departures has certainly been poor. Would be nice if they put something on website instead off relying on t&a'"
We knew about George the day the news broke about three week ago, I've still got the text you sent me
saying that it's looking like a permanent move.
But I agree about Godwin and the communication about his release.
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| Quote ="Beaver...Beaver..."Seems we were trying to get hold of ratchford! And John Sutton...(scrap my initial post here) not heard much about him but i see he has played state of origin!! Interesting that in the other T&A article today it mentions Bulls are still pursuing Leon!'"
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| It's almost as if the club like to make noise about good news but are trying to keep the not-so-good news quiet. I can't say I blame them for it as they probably don't want the feel-good factor currently going around, to be diminished. But regardless, I would like to see it mentioned on the club site that the players have gone or been released etc.
You can understand George not being on there yet, as it's not completely finalised. But Wagga has been confirmed by Salford and various other sites, so no reason for that not to be up, unless of course they're just very busy up there at the moment with xmas just around the corner?
Perhaps reading a little more into this than there really is I think.
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| Sutton would be a class signing, he is always near the top for try assists each season in the NRL. I don't think he will be one of the players Souths will offload, they are getting shot of Champion and Tyrell I think. So this move will be unlikely I reckon, would be a great signing if it could happen though.
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| A good quality 6 would be the final piece of the jigsaw wouldn't it.
Wouldn't be sorry to see Hall go, a move that would suit all parties.
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| There's nothing much more than speculation as regards Sutton. A conclusion to the Orford saga needs to be reached first. As for Hall's departure I'd suggest that's wishful thinking at this stage.
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| Quote ="Bradford Badger"Well, well, is Orford the villain we all made him out to be? £100k - imagine if you were owed that - wouldn't you be kicking up a bit of a fuss?'"
I think maybe knowing the circumstances of how and why the money is outstanding is key to deciding who is the villain. I'd suggest people don't jump to conclusions, given that the Sack of Rat Droppings that is his manager seems able to drop out selective titbits as and when it suits, whereas the club has had top play a straight at throughout.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"There's nothing much more than speculation as regards Sutton. A conclusion to the Orford saga needs to be reached first. As for Hall's departure I'd suggest that's wishful thinking at this stage.'"
You never know your luck on a big ship!
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Quote ="mat"Quote ="Adeybull"Story [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/8750589.Bye_George__Bulls__Burgess_bound_for_Oz_despite_South_Sydney_strife/=#800000here.[/url
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Communication from club re Godwin and burgess departures has certainly been poor. Would be nice if they put something on website instead off relying on t&a'"
We knew about George the day the news broke about three week ago, I've still got the text you sent me
saying that it's looking like a permanent move.
But I agree about Godwin and the communication about his release.'"
Yes we knew but it should have been announced by club rather than as the tag end of article in t and a.m.
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www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 88,00.html
seems the hall to wakey rumours were premature, would have been nice though
apologies if im not allowed to post links like that on here used to doing it like this on totalrl i sit ok doing this?
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seems the hall to wakey rumours were premature, would have been nice though
apologies if im not allowed to post links like that on here used to doing it like this on totalrl i sit ok doing this?
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| Quote ="thepimp007"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12210_6607488,00.html
seems the hall to wakey rumours were premature, would have been nice though
apologies if im not allowed to post links like that on here used to doing it like this on totalrl i sit ok doing this?'"
Am I being slow... but why does your link dispel that rumour?
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| Until all deals are done regarding outgoing players you won't see anything formal from the club. There's a convention that you don't steal the thunder from the club that's about to make the signing.
As with Burgess and Godwin, nothing's completely finalised yet. It may well be, but until it is the Bulls won't make any further comment.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Quote ="thepimp007"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12210_6607488,00.html
seems the hall to wakey rumours were premature, would have been nice though
apologies if im not allowed to post links like that on here used to doing it like this on totalrl i sit ok doing this?'"
Am I being slow... but why does your link dispel that rumour?'"
If anything it actually strengthens rumour as burnett was being lined with a move to wakey in same prop role.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Until all deals are done regarding outgoing players you won't see anything formal from the club. There's a convention that you don't steal the thunder from the club that's about to make the signing. As with Burgess and Godwin, nothing's completely finalised yet. It may well be, but until it is the Bulls won't make any further comment.'"
tbh while its convention to not mention the club a players going to until the new club announces it, it is pretty common to announce a players departure before they are announced by another club. Didnt we announce nero leaving the day before salford announced his signing?.
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