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| Like several others, feeling a bit dejected tonight
Fair play to Lynch, and I wish him well, but I really don't know where it leaves our club. We desperately need a quality replacement - something that will give us a 'feel good factor'
And Raynor leaving is just another piece of bad news. At times this season he seemed to be the only one playing with a genuine pride in the shirt
Very worried about next season at the moment.
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| I can't conceive that Raynor is anything other than the court case, surely? Maybe the club was unaware that there could still be serious consequences? As we were till we read about it in the paper? Nothing else makes any sense!
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| Well the fans have stood up to be counted again, 10,000+ pledges. It's again up to the Club, Coaching Staff and Playing Staff. Good will only goes so far, lame excuses won't wash next season. We don't want to hear the "We know what we did wrong and will put it right in training". They have a full off season to learn how to play this simple game of Rugby!
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"I'm beginning to look forwards to the end of next season'"
2013 will be our year!
so our most consistant, reliable forward and captain is off, to be followed by our most consistant, reliable outside back....excellent. The club need to announce some good replacements but I won't hold my breath.
On a side note whilst I was looking at Raynors stats I noticed something about our top try scorers from this year, only 1 player in double figures and 3 of the top 6 are off;
Royston - 10
Lynch - 9
Elima - 9
Ah Van - 9
Kearney - 7
Ainscough - 7
so we're losing 3 of our top try scorers, our captain, our best forward, top try assit man (Herbert) and our goal kicker.
I really want to be positive for next year but I'm struggling atm, hopefully there will be some positive news soon.
All the best to Andy and Gareth, thanks for the efforts and good luck.
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| Quote ="Spannerz"Well the fans have stood up to be counted again, 10,000+ pledges. It's again up to the Club, Coaching Staff and Playing Staff. Good will only goes so far, lame excuses won't wash next season. We don't want to hear the "We know what we did wrong and will put it right in training". They have a full off season to learn how to play this simple game of Rugby!'"
What he said.
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| I hadn't seen those stats before Duckman. I knew were pretty lame in attack this year but it's a poor do when a Prop is our 2nd highest try scorer. Ainscough missed a large part of the year and still registers joint 5th.
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| I really hope the rumours about Crookes leaving aren't true now, otherwise we are seriously thin on the ground for wingers.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I hadn't seen those stats before Duckman. I knew were pretty lame in attack this year but it's a poor do when a Prop is our 2nd highest try scorer. Ainscough missed a large part of the year and still registers joint 5th.'"
Indeed, the next 3, on 6 tries are Koppy, Whitehead and Sykes. Poor outside attack/strike threat linked with powder puff defence equals losing more games than we win...as we've seen.
Tries per game Ainscough is very good, 7 in 11 games. If we can keep him on the field and get a decent on his inside who gets good ball from the halves then he still looks an excellent prospect to me.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"The 'loss' to us will depend on a few factors. The amount of fee received and our intended replacement.
Although right now, I'm struggling to see how we're planning to replace him and at the same time improve our pack from this season.'"
If a better replacement were available then Hull would have just got him
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Quote ="Adeybull"I can't conceive that Raynor is anything other than the court case, surely? Maybe the club was unaware that there could still be serious consequences? As we were till we read about it in the paper? Nothing else makes any sense!'"
ther was a piece in the hull daily mail a week or so again, he has been ordered to pay back the money he scammed off ebay, his assests have been frozen untill repayment is made, if not he would return to jail
www.broughpeople.co.uk/Ex-Hull-r ... story.html
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ther was a piece in the hull daily mail a week or so again, he has been ordered to pay back the money he scammed off ebay, his assests have been frozen untill repayment is made, if not he would return to jail
www.broughpeople.co.uk/Ex-Hull-r ... story.html
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| His Facebook shows a comment from one fan asking why u leaving bulls? He says not through choice I loved playing for the bulls. I'm wondering what the f has gone on but it sounds as though bulls have got rid. Why when he signed for 2012? Doubt it's to do with the eBay scam as him paying back money earned through criminal activity has got jack to do with bulls or his new contract.
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| Yeah that was me who asked mate
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| Quote ="mat"
edit: just a thought, wasnt that union player on trial at the open training session a winger? maybe this has been on radar for a while and club have been looking at options?'"
That would be the ex Leeds Carnegie player Alex Ball who has had a run out in the U20's this season.
He'll be 21 next year and could be a possible answer as he's not short on height.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"His Facebook shows a comment from one fan asking why u leaving bulls? He says not through choice I loved playing for the bulls. I'm wondering what the f has gone on but it sounds as though bulls have got rid. Why when he signed for 2012? Doubt it's to do with the eBay scam as him paying back money earned through criminal activity has got jack to do with bulls or his new contract.'"
But what else could it be?
You don't offer a guy a new 12 month contract in July, then just rid for no reason in September. Makes no sense
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Yeah that was me who asked mate
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| Ladies and Gentlemen the return of the one the only Rikki Sheriffe is being announced tomorrow alongside the departure of Raynor
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"But what else could it be?
You don't offer a guy a new 12 month contract in July, then just rid for no reason in September. Makes no sense'"
Bulls didn't give a damn about the eBay stuff as they plucked him from prison so why would they now care about it? He had knuckled down well and proved himself and shown bulls they were right to give him a chance. WTF is going on at bulls and how can we replace him
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Ladies and Gentlemen the return of the one the only Rikki Sheriffe is being announced tomorrow alongside the departure of Raynor
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Sheriffe? Doubt it! Watched him on tv the other day for Newcastle against leicester! Seemed to do quite well
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| I think you might be getting Lee Smith from Leeds
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No surprise, he's an idiot
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| No mention of the fee in that article. Is it 'undisclosed' like both Burgesses in case we all get too giddy?
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| It says six figure sum in the article, so anything from £100,000 to £999,999, though knowing the Bulls it was probably £99.9900...
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