We can only call it how we see it, though, and surely you can see just how negative and miserable your take on things so often comes across? My comments were aimed at the generality of your posts since Sunday afternoon, not just that specific one - although it WAS prompted by your negative response to a reasonably balanced post from another poster.

You very bravely came out a few months ago and admitted to suffering from depression - which, contrary to what too many folk say, IS an illness and is not to be lightly dismissed; and I'll argue very strongly with anyone who says otherwise, and will not yield. And yes, I have formed the opinion that this maybe reflects in your posts - although of late far less so, until just very recently. Maybe my words were chosen in some exasperation, and maybe they might help you to see that? Because surely being so down about the club you profess to think a great deal about is not doing you any good either?

Back to topic - well, to the "our absences were worse than your absences" sub-topic anyway - I see that Sadler said in his rag today that he thought our absences DID hurt us far more than Leeds', and our players out on the park will likely be costing somewhat less than Leeds'. And that in the end money talks, and he implied quite clearly that money - and spending power - made the real difference. He finished by saying whatever Maguire is getting paid, he is worth every penny. Buy hey ho, that's just an opinion too.

The thing I find unforgivable is when the team has performed heroics and done bloody well, in very many respects, and been very unfortunate in many other respects, yet someone deliberately chooses to talk about the worst things, the whole worst things and nothing but the worst things, and exaggerate those to boot. Mistakes or no, my team bust a gut for me yesterday, and I appreciated it. I am truly ashamed that any fan would choose to ignore all the good stuff on show.

think someone said average before this game was 8600ish over 6 home games. so using the 13,269 figure for leeds games our average increases to about 9300ish. at least its heading in right direction and we still have some of better supported away teams to visit like hull and wire

edit: just worked it out using attendance figures on SL site and accurate figure is 9276.

We could be really cheeky and include the murrayfield game, which was classed as a home game for us, which pushes our average upto 11,446 but that would be obviously massaging the figures. Although it does raise an interesting point. average home attendance is one of criteria RFL use for awarding franchise points. So presumably they just go on the actual home fixtures and disregard the magic weekend fixture when calculating the average? I know this seems like stating the obvious but nothing would surprise me when it comes to RFL and it also raises the question as to why they bother designating one of the teams in each magic game as the 'home' team.

I wonder how many were not counted due to not having their cards scanned by the muppets in the turnstile booths?

Neither mine nor my son's appeared to be scanned correctly. The scanner was pointed at my card but not at the barcode on it and my son's card was "scanned" on the reverse side!!

would have thought they have a counter on the turnstyle itself to count attendances. Same system they've used for years. They'll no doubt have the season card attendances in electronic form too but they'd still have to add it onto figure for pay on the gate so I suspect they just do it all off the turnstyle counter.

Anyway, to lift the depression in certain quarters, just look at this - a bit like old times

A thing of beauty

As a matter of interest, (and assuming I have G1's permission to discuss it), I wonder how many of those in the picture, on a day like that, would have preferred to be seated, under cover?

It was lovely over in the popular stand and for once I managed to remember to put sun lotion on the bonce!

Perfect for the summer but unfortunately not very nice in colder weather - as we all know

Where I stood was prefectly fine as the sun moved round into Rikki's eyes it cast a lovely long shadow from behind the Touchdown bar which meant for me they were perfect conditions. So I had shade and didn't need to mix with social climbers like yourself. We the people stand.

Perhaps the shade would have been welcome but I certainly wouldn't have wanted to be seated. I love standing at Rugby!

I was glad of the shade in the Tetley's stand to be honest!

I'd still take a modern stadium over Odsal as it is - even on a day like that.

No shade where I was sat. Roasting. The sun caught us from around half time, same as it caught Rikki...

Just shows which derby is the biggest in SL

Might I just say, with your permission, and with the greatest of respect, that I happen to agree with Eddie's point and disagree with you. I would like to do so without resorting to questioning anyones rationality or describing anyone as an ignoramus.

Might I say that your deputy Full Back, Halley has probably played more games at full back for you than Lee Smith has for us. Might I also add, as someone who watches them week in week out, that you have massively under estimated the importance of Webb, Burrow, Peacock and Lautiti to our team.

www.eraofthebiff.com/mm14-1.jpg Odsal looks awesome when full. Why such low crowds against Leeds?

www.eraofthebiff.com/mm14-1.jpg Odsal looks awesome when full. Why such low crowds against Leeds?

Because it isn't 1954 any more.

...and because he linked to a picture of Halifax vs Warrington.

Otherwise, he makes a very good point.........................

No I'm sorry, there isn't time.

wires now on 36 coaches just from the club, other coaches going aswell

We all know Moran has loads of money to put into the club, but do you really need to employ 36 on the coaching staff...?

knob

cya

Lets keep it civil. If you can't do that then don't bother posting.