These stats for Worrincy and Cook are interesting: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Cook has missed more tackles despite playing 7 games fewer than Worrincy. That's shocking when you consider Worrincy isn't a great defender. Despite that Cook has nearly made as many yards, equaly shocking given that Worrincy is meant to be a strong attacking player. As I said, both are average IMO. It'll be interesting to see if Morgan can improve Cook.

These stats for Worrincy and Cook are interesting: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Cook has missed more tackles despite playing 7 games fewer than Worrincy. That's shocking when you consider Worrincy isn't a great defender. Despite that Cook has nearly made as many yards, equaly shocking given that Worrincy is meant to be a strong attacking player. As I said, both are average IMO. It'll be interesting to see if Morgan can improve Cook.

Quote ="Bullseye"These stats for Worrincy and Cook are interesting: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Cook has missed more tackles despite playing 7 games fewer than Worrincy. That's shocking when you consider Worrincy isn't a great defender. Despite that Cook has nearly made as many yards, equaly shocking given that Worrincy is meant to be a strong attacking player. As I said, both are average IMO. It'll be interesting to see if Morgan can improve Cook.'" He's also made similar amounts of metres, carries and tackles, clean breaks. If Macca would play Cook, He'd be well smashing past Worrincy's stats.

Quote ="Bullseye"These stats for Worrincy and Cook are interesting: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Cook has missed more tackles despite playing 7 games fewer than Worrincy. That's shocking when you consider Worrincy isn't a great defender. Despite that Cook has nearly made as many yards, equaly shocking given that Worrincy is meant to be a strong attacking player. As I said, both are average IMO. It'll be interesting to see if Morgan can improve Cook.'" He's also made similar amounts of metres, carries and tackles, clean breaks. If Macca would play Cook, He'd be well smashing past Worrincy's stats.

He'd be smashing Worrincy's stats for missed tackles too by the looks of it.

That's my point. Despite being as good an attacker as Worrincy he's actually a worse defender.

Neither have sufficient quality IMO.

Anyway? How many of us consider him as a star?

But when you put yourself in a position to make more tackles per game than another player, then it's a good chance that youre going to miss more tackles than them in the long run. That doesn't make them a worse defender than the other player, in fact, just by getting to more tackles, I'd say it makes you a better defender, especially when you can make direct comparisons between the two because they play the same position.

So no, Cook is not a worse defender than Worrincy, he actually gets through more defence than Mike making him a better defender, despite having far less game time.

Not me, but I think he's a good player with potential to be a star under the right coach.

He's still rubbish tho

The first yes, the latter, no.

No he isn't.

If you want rubbish, then Worrincy is your man.

You'll see, Ewwen.

I don't dispute that but that isnt a reason to keep Matt Cook

The reason is, you really shouldn't release players that are better than the ones that you keep as opposed to keeping poorer players over the ones you decide to let go.

Just on SSN he's signed for HKR on a 2 year deal

Are you BSC in disguise?

So that's another player leaving...our squad is looking prety thin next year. Im looking forward to some signing news soon.
Surely....

Jeez, some of you obviously don't know the talent Matt Cook possesses. Don't worry, he'll show at Odsal next year.

Cheers for a future England International.

So he gets through more defence but he averages more missed tackles?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Worrincy is a world beater but he does average slightly better stats than Cook and has scored a few tries.

However when you compare either to better quality second rows it's apparent that neither of them are that great and we need some quality in the squad, we've too many average performers.

If allowing Cook to leave gives us space to sign some quality I'm all for it. I just hope we don't simply bring in another average player.

He's a busted flush IMO.

That said, he may become another of those Odsal ghosts...

Very obviously.

I hope he fills his potential at Rovers, because he's been held back by Macca over the past 3 and half years.

Tis why I emphasised 'some', that doesn't include you, who obviously recognises talent when they see it.

That James Donaldson looks a very good prospect too.

Yeah, those who have watched him every single game for the last few years clearly have a poor impression compared to yourself, who has seen him when he's played against HKR or on Sky.

I don't see it as clear cut as you.

The kid had potential but never kicked on. Whether that was due to a lack of first team games I dunno but he wasn't tearing it up in the reserves either so it's not like he was kept out when he was playing really well.

He's average IMO. If Morgan gets more out of him then good for Cook and it'll raise more questions about McNamara.

Until that happens I'll not lose much sleep over him going.

He's been wasted at Bradford. Much like Tommy Lee has at Hull.

It's the poor coaching methods, as shown with Liam Colbon and Scott Wheeldon at Wigan and Hull respectively. Those two have had great seasons at HKR.

Would you say HKR are a top 3 side on paper? Probably not, hence why signings like Matt Cook will prove valuable on what I guess isn't a hefty chunk of salary cap, besides isn't what the Franchise is all about? Making young English talent into very handy players rather than letting them stagnate.

Good luck if you've got youngsters coming through to fill Cook's place, the more the merrier I say.

Sorry but he's no future England star in my opinion. He'll do a good job off the bench though for most super league sides. I think we have given him enough time to make an impression and he just hasn't quite cut it. I think the likes of Donaldson/Whitehead/Tate are the future for us.

Same here.