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| You could see it coming the whole 2nd half.
Really poor defending for their tries.
One man rugby against 12 men. They looked the fitter side in the last 20 after playing with 12 men the whole game.
Worst Bradford side I’ve ever seen, the whole club feels like it’s on its death bed. No crowd, no atmosphere, poor on the pitch.
Halifax deserved the win, we deserved to lose even more.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"You could tell what was going to happen when we decided to take the two to increase our lead from 7 to 9
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Well played to them.'"
Absolutely bizarre decision for the 2, are we tactically inept? There was also a point where we were leading by 3 and Lilley drills it into touch when in a good position to apply some pressure with an attacking kick. At that point it signalled that we were hanging on and if I was a Fax player it would of given me some energy by turning it over so cheaply.
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| That is one of the worst Bradford Bulls performances of the summer era. An all time low for the club. Congratulations go to Halifax, they never gave in and showed us exactly what tenacity, grit and determination can do when you lose a player so early into the game.
Just when you think we can't stoop any lower than the performance last week against Barrow we go and out do ourselves again. An unforgivable performance from a gutless team. Crossley running the ball in on the last tackle to try and win the game, clueless. Another brain explosion from our captain. He should be sat in the stands next week.
We all know that Kear is gone now. If not immediately, he's definitely gone at the end of the year. We also need an overhaul in the backroom staff. The fitness and S & C coaches have a lot to answer for as well. We must be one of the unfittest teams in the league. Can anyone name another team in this league that has props as out of shape as ours?
The atmosphere at the end was toxic. A horrible day for the club.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"You could tell what was going to happen when we decided to take the two to increase our lead from 7 to 9
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Well played to them.'"
That decision was madness and was not going to make any impact on what Fax needed to do. You can only assume it was so Bradford could get a rest which in itself is also madness.
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| That game tonight was almost surreal. A team playing against 12 men for practically the whole game, on their own patch, with a decent crowd behind them, and they give that display. Happening time after time now. Why don't our halves show at least a bit of skill, guile, ingenuity, instead of the inevitable kick into the air agter 5 drives ? If the problem isn't the players then there's only one solution which needs addressing urgently, before crowds drop off the scale.
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| Utter garbage. We’ve seen the bulls travel to places like Hemel and west wales but tonight is the lowest I’ve ever seen the club and it makes me question going back.
20-17. I would have thought ok at that but looking at that so called ‘performance’ disgusting. One up boring rugby and a kick to gill. Or run to contact on the last. Lilley caught doing it on e and Crossley doing it from 20 out with a minute on the clock with us trying to win the game. Unforgivable and the whole club should be ashamed.
Well done Halifax on getting the win but they were not even that great. No disrespect meant But they didn’t have to be and even with 12 men they had us comfortably beat. Soft soft tries conceded in defence and a shambles with ball in hand.
The club should be ashamed tonight. Up there with the worst performances ever churned out by a Bradford side for me. Worst thing is I don’t see any signs of putting it right other than hot air. Sheffield was bad, Barrow worse, tonight laughable
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| Sadly predictable wasn't it? Almost as if nothing has been learned from what we've seen so far this season.
So much wrong from top bottom at the club. Huge changes needed in the culture throughout.
On the positive side we do have some players that are fit and hungry. The problem is they're held back by an equal number that are taking the .
As for the coach and his staff they're clearly unable to do their jobs to the standard requires.
Massive clearout needed.
Credit to Fax who showed that fitness and will to win is everything.
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| It was like watching a team from the winter era. We looked a stone a man heavier but totally sluggish in every facet of the game. The tactics were those Peter Fox would have deployed in December. It was just weird. Line speed collapsed in the last 30 minutes because we're SO unfit. 12 man Fax making 60 metres on every set. Not a single grubber kick into the in goal area. Our left edge has stopped challenging for Patton's kicks. Kibula offloaded to Doyle and there was not a single player available. They'd stepped back to the line because it wasn't expected.
It was definitely my worst night at Odsal. I've seen some poor sides but never constrained to such an extent that they don't actually play. And unfit. The speed and enthusiasm of Fax humiliated us.
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| I watched Dec Patton for a spell off the ball, hands on his hips blowing out of his backside. He’s not on his own by any means but if your halfback is unfit, that to me is a major indicator that conditioning and professionalism is way below where it needs to be.
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| Does anyone know why he got sent off? What actually happened?
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| Quote ="Betsy Bulls"Does anyone know why he got sent off? What actually happened?'"
Missed the incident as I seemed to pick a seat where people were up and down the steps all match (which got less annoying as the match wore on once I realised I was unlikely to miss anything exciting).
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| I was talking to a mate who's a Fax fan at 60 mins and he said you've won this. My reply was simple.
"Crossley's still on the park and will likely close out the game, that mean the defensive line will be static and a good number of the other players will be thankful for that. Combined with our appalling discipline you'll get a soft try before the games out whereas we are so unfit we couldn't score in a brothel - your win"
The only positive for me was Lilley shouting and screaming at them with about 5 mins to go. The only player showing any real desire, yes he drilled the ball into touch but I'd say that was to give out fat B&*£ards a breather more than anything else.
Kear's such a decent bloke it hurt to hear folks chanting We want Kear out and I'd never want to see such a long and dedicated career end like this but FFS make him Head of Rugby and I'll coach the lard 4rses. I can't do worse.
And another worry, Elliot Kear has been putting shift after shift in for me and he left the ground before me last night and his face was like thunder, How long before our fit player ask to leave rather than carry on carrying the gut buckets?
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| Elliot Kear looked miles better when shifted to centre. Like last week. Still can’t understand the benching of Hall. Especially after last week.
By the way, had we won yesterday. That unreal ball and all tackle on the tryline from Hall was world class.
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| I have one question, why does almost every bulls player look over weight, I would like mick the gled to ask someone at the club that question, lots of fans have commented on this, it’s anyones imagination, ITS FACT
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| TBF to Elliott he could have been going to work
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| I can't see why we can't widen the DR with Leeds and send any FT players we have to their fitness and conditioning sessions.
Patton was in decent shape when he joined now he looks like he's been hanging round Greggs all day waiting for his mates to finish work. He's got more than enough skil and guile for this league - and he's proved it - but now he's joined the Crossley diet he can't use it.
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| Im still absolutely seething and feeling totally embarrassed after last night.
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| And still no Halifax fans on here to gloat... even they're too embarrassed for us.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"And still no Halifax fans on here to gloat... even they're too embarrassed for us.'"
Haha, Not embarrassed just glad to get the win after the sending off.
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| Quote ="Scarey71"
The only positive for me was Lilley shouting and screaming at them with about 5 mins to go. The only player showing any real desire, yes he drilled the ball into touch but I'd say that was to give out fat B&*£ards a breather more than anything else.
Kear's such a decent bloke it hurt to hear folks chanting We want Kear out and I'd never want to see such a long and dedicated career end like this but FFS make him Head of Rugby and I'll coach the lard 4rses. I can't do worse.
And another worry, Elliot Kear has been putting shift after shift in for me and he left the ground before me last night and his face was like thunder, How long before our fit player ask to leave rather than carry on carrying the gut buckets?'"
Anyone else in the Coral last night after the game? Kear sounded gone. The words were the same but the way he delivered them didn’t.
Lilley looked really upset when he got up there but had a long convo with Fogerty (who’s probably the closest thing we’ve got to a director of rugby) which cheered him up. I think a decision will be made by Monday.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"And still no Halifax fans on here to gloat... even they're too embarrassed for us.'"
I think we’ve sunk so low, it would be perceived as “kicking a cripple” .
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| Anyone can see there are some huge issues. Half the squad have decided they can't be bothered. Will Wood be ruthless and make some changes?
If not the crowds will be in the hundreds before the end of the season.
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| I don’t know if Hall is the answer at all. It’s probably too early to tell BUT after seeing him come on and play a huge part in changing the game vs Barrow, why again did we go with Murphy in the centres and Kear at fullback.
Small example but it’s things like this fans are picking up one but the coaches either ignore it or can’t see it. Given JK is one of the most experienced coaches in the game, I cannot believe he doesn’t see these things.
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| Crowd reported as 5.2k. Must be counting STs!
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