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| So we've lost another of our young players.
But the thing is, this was always on the cards. Not just Bateman or other academy lads, but any player at the Bulls is on the radar of the clubs above us.
We've failed to make the play-offs for 5 years. We've sailed dangerously close to going out of business altogether. Of course players' heads are going to be turned if the champions come knocking. Who's wouldn't?
Player loyalty is, quite frankly, a myth. A player's career is a short one. Granted, some players break the mold like Beaver did, but for most 10 years is pretty much the sell by date on their playing time. Player HAVE to do what is best for them and their families. Players like Bateman especially, given his injury record. He's yet to make a full season at senior level without picking up a serious injury. Who's to say he'll even complete his 3 years at Wigan?
Players are going to want to achieve things. They want trophies, international call ups etc. And as it stands, they're not likely to get those at Bradford. A few years down the line, that may have changed, but right now, we've not as attractive an option as a Wigan or a Warrington and I really think so fans need to get some perspective. We were champs, but that was a long time ago. We've fallen from grace, hard, and there's a lot of work that needs to be done to arrest that fall and take us back up.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"For every negative there is a positive. Even though Bateman has gone it means more oppertunity for the likes of Addy, Donaldson, Roberts, Mellor and Olbison to play consistantly. Who knows one of them might surprise us this year.'" What by staying the whole season?
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| I wonder who else made enquiries, during the mess of 2012 he had around 10 NRL clubs after him.
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| Well I've just parted company with £450 for my ST's, if next season goes like last Season it'll be the last time for me! It's becoming a shambles run by well meaning people. Bateman isn't the be all and end all but it is very disappointing non the less. Just out of interest what did we actually get out of these last three transfers?
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| Oh and if a particular member of his family stops going to Odsal (and I imagine they will) there goes my reliable source on game day!!
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| Quote ="eddievan"Not too sure I'm too down hearted about this. He didn't have a positive influence on any game I saw last year. He appears to be very immature with a poor attitude and a lot of injuries. I am however very worried about season ticket sales.'"
Think all that's spot on
Did everyone see the comments Bateman put on twitter when wages were paid late in the summer.It was obvious he would be off soon with some of the things he was putting for everyone to see,and it looked like he was getting lots of encouragement from his mate Elliott
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| I just wonder how many more will have gone before the start of next season? Is there a rift within the ranks? The undisclosed fees thing is a copout for me, smacks of us getting very little for them and a little embarassing!
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| Quote Warriors Rugby Manager Kris Radlinski added: "In John Bateman, we have a tremendous prospect. He has been tipped for the top in the game for some time and we are pleased to help him reach his potential. He is ambitious, hard- working and has a burning desire to succeed at the highest level.
"We intend to strip him down and build him back up, educating him on preparing his body for top grade Rugby League along the way."'" That makes a good point.
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| Another youngster with great potential gone. It's getting very frustrating watching our young talent leave the club.
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| Im glad we kept Addy TBH. All three that have gone seem like billy big balls.
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| Makes me re-think that rumour of Scruton apparently talking to Dr Koukash...
Christ, news like this makes me think; who's next?!
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| There was also the 'Sammut to Salford' rumour which has all gone quiet.
It annoys me more when it's the young players that leave. It was only last year that Bateman signed a 3 year deal and lots of people thought: 'He's Bradford through and through' and 'I'm so glad we have great talent like this at Bradford'. A year on, and he has signed for the reigning champions. It was the same with Whitehead when he signed his contract in 2012, and the same with Naughton. They were all given long term contracts, and all three of them have departed a year into their contract. We need to stop selling our young talent.
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| We can stop selling our talent when we have enough money coming into the club to keep it. 2300 season tickets isn't enough.
Fact is we've been skint for years and this is a wake up call just like Wakey have had.
Whether we sell more is down to how much money comes into the club. I hope we got a good fee for Bateman, any news on whether it's cash only or is a player part of the deal? He's gone to a good club and good luck to him. Now's a big chance for the likes of Roberts and Mellor who look good IMO.
As a poster said earlier it's like "back to the 80s" we've no money, struggle to hang onto our best players (Hanley/Ford/Skerrett all over again etc), the tories are in, the charts are crap, what next? Perms coming back in? Keep your chins up people worse things happen at sea.
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| Stand by for an "I hate Franny Cummins" interview now Bateman's gone to Wigan or at least I hope not.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Stand by for an "I hate Franny Cummins" interview now Bateman's gone to Wigan or at least I hope not.'"
I'm fully expecting that to happen. Don't think they got on well.
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| Clearly, it is never great news to lose a young player who has come through the junior ranks and has high potential but it happens to all clubs and I do not believe that Bateman's loss is anywhere near the same level as that of Leon Pryce several years ago for example.
We have to be realistic as it relates to the Bulls position and their ability to keep hold of talent. That said, that was even true in the heady days of consecutive Grand Finals (Ryan Atkins, Stuart Reardon etc.). I see comments that we can not keep hold of talent and using the Burgess brothers and Naughton as examples - frankly no club could have stopped Sam Burgess once Russell Crowe came knocking and then it was only a matter of time before his brothers followed - just compare their life in Sydney to that of Bradford.
We also need to remember that the Bulls is a business and the club and directors need to do whatever they can to keep the club running. Information is not always going to be shared with fans as freely as we would like.
I believe that the Bulls made some progress on the field last year and I am confidant that with the signings that they have made they will make further progress in 2014, even with the loss of Bateman. Attitude and solidarity in the Clubhouse makes a significant difference in any sport {see "worst to first" Boston Red Sox baseball as an example}, and I believe that this is what Cummins is trying to achieve.
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| Wouldnt surprise me, probably be backed up by his bum chum EW. From what I gather that little group of EW, JB, and Jobs seemed to like the pop a bit to much. Invest in your career, these people want it given to them.
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| Wouldn't be surprised if there is another departure and possibly another couple of additions to come yet.
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| The fee for Whitehead I heard was in the 60k range, paid in instalments.
The comments from Radlinski show Wigan understand the problems and the solution. Bit like when Souths got Tom last year and said what they would do to get him up to speed.
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| Quote ="Spannerz" The undisclosed fees thing is a copout for me, smacks of us getting very little for them and a little embarassing!'"
Undisclosed fees often are a condition on the buying clubs side. This way other clubs don't know what their ceiling is when they come knocking for players.
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| Quote ="redeverready"The offer only arrived late yesterday afternoon.'"
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| Young players will only look good or shine if they are given the chance to play. Unfortunately it's something we seem frightened to do. look how many young players we've lost, given away or shown the door that have since been nurtured and progressed at other clubs! Time will tell!
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| Quote ="millsy81"Signed last week, before last Friday'"
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| It must be just me that thinks this is a great deal for the club.
Bateman has had bags of potential but never warranted the big deal he signed last year. I genuinely can't remember the last time he missed a game and I thought "damn, Bateman could be the difference in this game".
I personally would take Ferguson, Addy and Donno over Bateman, Whitehead and Langley any day of the week.
Money in the bank, more playing time for Olbison, Mellor and Roberts and best of all Wigan and Catalans can deal with the billy big that now sit within their respective squads!!!
As for the moaners and groaners, do us a favour and feck off!!! I'm sick to the back teeth.
If you haven't bought a season ticket cos the club hasn't won anything for years... YOU'RE NOT A FAN!!!
If you haven't bought a season ticket cos Bateman, Whitehead and Naughton have left... YOU'RE NOT A FAN!!!
If you haven't bought a season ticket cos you think you need to be consulted on every decision the club makes... YOU'RE NOT A FAN!!!
If you haven't bought a season ticket because of a genuine reason such as cant afford one, not going to make enough games to make it value for money etc. then fair enough.
As for all the rest, I wish you'd do us a favour and just leave the club and its true fans in peace. I started following the Northern at tough times and kept going for the love of the club. You don't just support a club to win things, you support it for both good and bad times.
Have you thought that the bad vibes from you and the press might be a reason why so many are having their heads turned and jumping ship???
I'd rather have a club full stop than one who has to bend over backwards for both players and fans just to try and keep up with sugar daddy clubs!!!
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Good Luck?
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Get a grip you fecking child.
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