Well taking a look on the Wigan board we stand no chance, let's hope the Wigan players come with the same attitude!

I actually cannot believe the arrogance of a selct few on there!

They've started the season excellently I'll give them that, and they are currently the team to beat, but for one of them to say Wigan by 18+ is guaranteed and the next to say if they don't win by 3 scores they will be disappointed is ridiculous on the 5th game of the season. I hope we can be the reality check they need, by the way a lot of them are raving you'd think either it was back to the 80's or they'd just finished top.

I didn't realise how well our pack has been doing until I looked at the SL stats, I thought they'd been going quite well, but even better.

Scruton, Langley & Lynch are all in the top 25 metre makers in SL and Langley is the top forward.

Langley is 7th in tackles, with L'Estrange 10th.

Fielden is top of the tackle busts though & on top form, better watch out.

Lets hope our pack give it to them from the start, and again : COME ON YOU BULLS.

It's only Monday fella.

I know what you mean mate, there will always be arrogant people, but most of us are just happy to be playing some interesting rugby to be honest. We've had a few seasons of winning one week against a decent team then getting beaten the following week by a not so decent team and the players never particularly looked enthusiastic win or lose half the time. We had a coach who had his favourites and stuck with them resulting in certain players knowing they didn't have to bother putting the effort in because they would get picked anyway. Maguire has made it quite clear that players need to earn their place in the side and aren't guaranteed to keep it, the players have been flogged to death in training and as someone said early on in the thread we may well peak too soon and struggle when it comes to later on in the season who knows? Without any prediction of scores from myself, for the first time in a long time I am confident that we will play some entertaining rugby, we wont give up the moment we go 6 points behind and that if anyone is playing crap Maguire and Wane will have them off the pitch whether they have played 5 minutes or half an hour. If we do that all year I'd be over the moon and a trophy would be a bonus. If we had won the cup last year we'd have had to endure another year of boring 5 drives and a kick so thank goodness for Warrington in the semi.
OUr squad is pretty much the same as last year but the fringe players last year knew they wouldn't get a go unless there were any serious injuries. This year the fringe players are training as hard as first teamers because they know they will get their chance eventually. Nobby's genius idea was to play the same people all the time regardless of the opposition meaning that players ended up getting injured in the 'meaningless' games and by the time it got close to the playoffs we had some younger players in that we all wanted all along (but they had less experience than they would have if Nobby rotated or dropped players from time to time earlier in the year). Wigan fans have been arguing amongst themselves about Nobby and the players the players for too long and it feels like a new dawn to us so please forgive the arrogant ones among us I think they're getting a little over excited, I'm just enjoying Rugby League again and first and foremost I hope its a good entertaining game on Friday whatever the score.

Hmm. That makes you think does it not?

I think that there are a lot of people getting a bit carried away on C&W at the moment TBF. Yes, I concede that they are my tip to take the Crown this season but, with the exception of Wire away, you could hardly have hand-picked a better start to the season if you tried. After all, they have played Hull KR, Crusaders and Catalans all at home in the first four weeks!!!

OK you can only beat what is put in front of you but it would have been a major surprise had they not taken at least 6 out of eight given the start they were given.

We have had a harder start than Wigan have had, that is for sure. However, that is not really the point here. Some of the folks on the Wigan board are going on as if you are a re-incarnation of the team of the 80's when, in reality, all you have done is win some very winnable games.

Getting slightly carried away on C&W methinks!

I agree. I thought most of last year that he was seriously overlooked, probably because of the amount of attention given to his brother.

If ever there was a time for a big effort it's this week, with the Pies on fire and our stuttering start we need insperation from coach and the senior players. I'm hopeful for the win but I won't put the house on it.

I can't see past a tight contest tbh.

We've been very good but we have had 3 favourable home fixtures and if we drop as much ball and give as many daft pens away as we did in the first half at Wire we could be left with a mountain to climb.

I think it'll be a low scoring game tbh.

He had a poor year last year tbh. He was outstanding in the 2nd half of 2008 when is link up with Trent Barrett was a joy to watch.

He looks to be back in that sort of form again but has changed his game. He just looks miles fitter and stronger at the minute and is bumping people off in the tackle for fun and getting through stacks of defensive work. His pace for a backrower is outstanding.

Don't mention our stuttering start. You will be accused of negativity.

I didn't know he had a brother. Who is it?

Logan Tomkins. Plays in Wigan's academy.

Wigan fans are so arrogant C***S!

Cameron Phelps is back by the looks of it... and he bears a striking similarity to Gareth Hock. You've got to watch these Aussie managers they'll try and get away with anything. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... Wigan.html

Cameron Phelps is back by the looks of it... and he bears a striking similarity to Gareth Hock. You've got to watch these Aussie managers they'll try and get away with anything. www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... Wigan.html

Embarassingly so mate. Even I'm cringeing at some of the comments on there. Much as I want my team to do well, I've seen enough of this game over the years to know we are quite some way from being the finished article yet.

I suppose the way people tend to go overboard is just a reflection of modern day society. It's not just a wigan thing, Warrington are just as guilty, as well as supporters of other sports.

Whoever comes out on top on friday will know they have been in a game, thats for sure.

Lol you've had one harder game in Hudds and that’s it.

The Saints game you played is nothing on the level that the Wire game was for us.
Cas-Hull KR - Seeing Hull just beat Cas i'd say they were the better team there.
Salford-Catlans- Not a tough game for both but I’d bet Catalans finish above Salford.
Hudds vs Crusaders-You win that one hands down.

So it’s about the same really apart from one team is 4/4 and the other team has had two spankings……..

No one on Cherry and White thinks we are finished article but after watching them for the past few weeks there certainly has been a marked improvement at Wigan and some of our players –Fielden, Coley, Phelps, Roberts and Pat are bang in form. Whilst I think it’s gonna be a tough game IF we continue to play the way we have we SHOULD win this one as you guys haven’t been setting the world alight this season.

Hull beat hudds and crusaders beat hull

So you are basically agreeing with me that we have had a harder start then?

p.s. we have also had two away games to your one.

I'm not wishing to get involved in this particular argument, but would love to know what you base this particular statement on.

(Especially while taking into account that I highly doubt you actually saw the game, barring the tries on Boots 'n' All)

Well when Wellens scores that many you know you've not been in a contest.

Now if your trying to suggest it was as brutal as the Wire vs Wigan game that’s fine as it's your opinion just don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

Now if you wanna talk about fans going OTT there is a kid from Bradford on our board claiming Orford is in the top three SH’s in the world!! That is laughable.

Can you put a link in?

In all seriousness it should be a great game, but I just feel with are superior defense and better threequaters especially now Phelps will more than likely return we'll just have the edge on you.