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| That sounds like a ban for you I rekon!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I have reported this cretin - as far as I can see it has breached the AUP on several counts, including a particularly nasty libelous allegation, but that is for the mods/site admin to determine - so can I suggest please stop feeding it?'"
But then we'd leave ourselves open to prosecution by the RSPCTT
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I dunno, maybe the people who have been paying him a very sizeable wage for nothing in the months before he came to realise this?'"
MMmm, maybe they'll be more forgiving when they realise that Orford has just found out his "very sizeable" remuneration is only 'fairly sizeable' when converted to Aussie Dollars?
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| I wish people would stop going on about Orford being homesick and calling him a mummy's boy. FFS people grow up, people are allowed to be homesick. Especially when they were brought up in Australia and now reside on the other side of the world, in Bradford!
What's been disappointing in this whole affair/debacle is Orford's willingness (or lack of) to come out and say what's going on, he's shown very little credibility and very little character.
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| His apparent lack of backbone in coming out and being honest with the club makes him a mummy's boy in my book.
As for homesickness I suspect this is just an excuse. The bloke isn't married and away from his kids or anything. He's very well paid and is living the life of a professional sportsman.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I wish people would stop going on about Orford being homesick and calling him a mummy's boy. FFS people grow up, people are allowed to be homesick. Especially when they were brought up in Australia and now reside on the other side of the world, in Bradford!'"
Was he not homesick at the time he suffered a season ending injury? If so, why not say "Look, Pete, I'm sorry but I am homesick to the serious extent that I can't stay here any more, so can we negotiate a release."
If he is a man, then he would accept this alleged "homesickness" as a not totally unpredictable price of signing a 3 year contract to play and reside on "the other side of the world". So far as I am aware, and if I ignore approx 2 cm of tectonic plate movements, Bradford was still the same distance across the world when he signed, as it is now.
As it is, it seems Orford is the first man in recorded history to develop a severe case of homesickness whilst actually at home.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I wish people would stop going on about Orford being homesick and calling him a mummy's boy. FFS people grow up, people are allowed to be homesick. Especially when they were brought up in Australia and now reside on the other side of the world, in Bradford!'"
Agreed. It's sanctimonious. Calling anyone a "mummys boy" who gets hit at speed by the athletes who play the game illustrates their lack of knowledge.
Quote ="AaronBull"What's been disappointing in this whole affair/debacle is Orford's willingness (or lack of) to come out and say what's going on, he's shown very little credibility and very little character.'"
But then why would he do that when the very inference suggests he has no desire to come back. He would be a fool to say "I don't want to come back" not to mention in breach of contract. Similarly it would rule out any return to the club and his overly healthy contract.
Wouldn't be smart running between the wickets.
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| He's a mummys boy. End of story.
Cried off home to his mum at the first chance he had.
Thats all.
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| [urlhttp://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/10/25/orford-s-future-on-hold/[/url
"[iNEGOTIATIONS surrounding Matt Orford's release from the English Super League won't be complete until early November, according to his manager George Mimis.
Mimis indicated on Monday that the negotiation of the 32-year-old's release will not be completed until he is back in the country.
Mimis said in an email that he is in the United States and nothing will be done until he returns to Australia following the Melbourne Cup."[/i
So we can't move on until this numpty finishes his jolly in the states....
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| Bit of extra compo then for breach of contract given that Orford is unlikely to appear for pre-season training in early November.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"I wish people would stop going on about Orford being homesick and calling him a mummy's boy.'"
WTF for? It's the relevant detail.
Quote ="AaronBull"FFS people grow up, people are allowed to be homesick.'"
They're allowed to be adults with adult responsibilities too.
Quote ="Gurus_Beard"Calling anyone a "mummys boy" who gets hit at speed by the athletes who play the game illustrates their lack of knowledge.'"
Lack of knowledge about what? His sailor suit?
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| I think it is safe to uncover the powder now, based on that.
I wish Orford a most interesting life. May many interesting things happen to him. And may he have a great deal of time indeed to experience them.
Oh, and Aaron: few will be genuinely disgusted with Orford for being homesick or a mummy's boy or whatever. Rather more will be disgusted with him for the total and thoroughly dishonourable way he has conducted himself.
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He told us he was coming back when in truth he was negotiating with other clubs in order that we kept paying him.
That's called lying.
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| Quote ="Maislebugs"Correct
He told us he was coming back when in truth he was negotiating with other clubs in order that we kept paying him.
That's called lying.'"
Exactly.
Can we assume Orford will need to still report back for pre season training whilst these talks are on hold? If we're paying him I'd expect him to turn up, even if its just to carry the water for the players who do want to be here. If he doesn't want to turn up to work and doesn't want to be in breach of his contract he can ask for some unpaid gardening leave (or whatever you want to call it) to stay on the beach.
Although I suspect in reality the club won't enforce this as they must just want shut and hope the neogotiations go as quick as they can, holidays to bali and the USA excepted....
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| Indeed what has made Orford look a self-serving arsse is the way he appears to have treated the Bulls and the fans, many of whom felt able to take his own pronouncements of allegiance and intention to return at face value. The time to quit if he wanted to leave would be when he suffered his major injury. Then we could have been in the market early doors for a 7. Only you don't get paid a few months for nowt that way. Is he still taking the money now?
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| Quote ="Maislebugs"That's called lying.'"
And, in the minds of many: thieving.
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| There's just been a teaser on SSN saying a "Big name has told the Bradford Bulls he wants to leave"
So I'm guessing we're close to the end of this protracted idiocy
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| Finally the Bulls break silence on the Orford saga
Quote ORFORD SEEKS RELEASE
Bradford Bulls today confirmed that the Club has been requested to release Matt Orford from the remaining two years of his contract.
Commenting, Bulls chairman Peter Hood said:
"I will be speaking to Matt's manager next week when he returns to Australia from the United States. In the meantime we have granted Matt dispensation to remain where he is, which means he will not be reporting for pre-season training on Monday 1st November as was originally planned into his injury rehabilitation schedule. In the event that we do agree to Matt's release we shall certainly be retaining his registration until such time as appropriate compensation can be agreed. Meanwhile, we remain focused on building a highly competitive squad for next season and beyond."
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[urlhttp://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/4996/ORFORD%20SEEKS%20RELEASE[/url
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| Now there is a shock. What a d!ckhead.
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| The big galah.
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| With 2 years left and half a season off we should be seeking a fair bit of compensation, just because the wont give it a decent go over here.
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