Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Can somebody conjure up a list of the main sponsors that the other C1 clubs have been able to attract? With numbers would be nice.'" Newcastle Thunder - PTM Group. Small company. Sum will be buttons - www.thunderrugby.com/news/articl ... led-as-new Whitehaven - AECOM - £59,000 - www.whitehavennews.co.uk/sport/R ... 0826e52-ds I'll add others if I (or anyone else) find them.

Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Can somebody conjure up a list of the main sponsors that the other C1 clubs have been able to attract? With numbers would be nice.'" Newcastle Thunder - PTM Group. Small company. Sum will be buttons - www.thunderrugby.com/news/articl ... led-as-new Whitehaven - AECOM - £59,000 - www.whitehavennews.co.uk/sport/R ... 0826e52-ds I'll add others if I (or anyone else) find them.

Whitehaven's record breaking £59,000 sponsorship deal: [urlhttp://www.whitehavennews.co.uk/sport/Record-breaking-sponsorship-deal-for-Haven-9426aba5-3318-41a6-8c00-934280826e52-ds[/url

I suspect from taking an interesting jaunt around some CH1 club websites that most clubs are putting together a portfolio of sponsorship. Only the bigger clubs will have what you might call blue-chip shirt sponosr that is bringing in meaningful ammounts individually.

Even the major RL team in Bradford (over in BD21) appear to do the portfolio approach. And as we steal all our ideas from them we might end up doing the same.

10 grand to be Oxford's main shirt sponsor (Evolve): [urlhttp://www.oxfordrl.com/2017-home-shirt-sponsorship/[/url

Bargain short sponsorship - £500 a bum cheek. I'm hoping it was the Touch company they mention here [urlhttp://www.oxfordrl.com/2017/02/blues-announce-continued-partnerships/[/url

Well the RFL are quitting Red Hall and "considering" Bradford. Hmm..

No hmm, see the ticks in the boxes you have listed. Any idea who is building the houses and if there are any incentives to buy one on the hallowed turf? Which may be difficult given the turf will be auctioned off a la Wembley.

I feel a competition coming on, the name of the estate, and the roads (sorry, Lanes, Squares, Avenues, etc)

My money's on Rimmer Road, Nigel Neighbourhood, Gregg's Green.

Greggs Green would fit in well with Bradford. God knows there's enough bloody Greggs shops in or around the city centre!

There might have been the tiniest glint of a possibility in all that if the RFL actually owned Odsal. However they don't.

I often wonder why we don't have a sponsorship deal with Greggs.

Another done deal, eh?

...So much action, it's becoming difficult to keep up!

Terry Homes.

They're not built to last.

Thought you were going to mention his brother Jerry, his building isn't much better.

I'll get my coat................

another frank e way bet....

You'll be favourite to win, so take it.

On 20 August 2017 BB's Ferocious Aardvark said and we paraphrase his words for emphasis .... [i"I've been banging on about this for a while. The reason the RFL are up to something, and why they acquired the lease on Odsal in the first place .... (The) Bulls aren't important to them (i.e. the RFL) after 2019 when the rugby playing covenant expires, but (the Bulls) have a sublease so can't be booted (out)".
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Ferocious Aardvark may be somewhat correct, but what proof (if any) does he, or any forum member for that matter, have of the time dependant covenant in the Odsal stadium head lease that he refers to above?

Spring 2019 is after all not far away. And what use is a sublease to us Bulls fans anyway if our iconic Odsal stadium can't, or won't, be used to play rugby league on post Spring 2019?

If it is in fact planned that there is to be no rugby league played at Odsal post Spring 2019 then what do Bradford Council and all the rugby league loving 'stakeholders' (inc Neil Hudgell and Michael Carter) have to say about this?

Rugby league fans are in any event 'stakeholders' in the sport of rugby league. The RFL may presently own the Odsal head lease, but in effect so do all the 'stakeholders' of rugby league, including ourselves. Don't we have a voice re the future of the sport's most iconic stadium?

If Odsal stadium is to be redeveloped without rugby league being played there, then why would all this be kept under wraps, and have other more higher value development options from other external well funded parties been considered?

The time is surely nigh for open public consultation in regard to the future of Odsal stadium; such consultation is of less use after 'the act'.

I don't expect us to be moving any time soon, the Odsal millstone will remain around the club's neck for years to come.

I don't expect us to be moving any time soon, the Odsal millstone will remain around the club's neck for years to come.

Well Bullsgeye you must agree that you don't always get what you expect.

In any case we are certain that the head lease for Odsal, in particular if rugby league were not to be played there, given it's excellent strategic and regional transport links, would be an attractive proposition for many investors if the sale of the head lease (or the freehold) for Odsal were put out to an open and competitive tender.

To say that the head lease for Odsal (as per recent RFL statements) is only worth a reputed sum of say £650K - £850K is laughable and scandalous. We would suggest that if that devalued figure is accurate, then Bradford Council should buy back the lease from the RFL for that bargain basement sum and sell it for the many millions that it is worth to the highest bidder who will guarantee that Odsal has a multi-purpose use, inc rugby league, moving forward.

I don't suppose you'd like to tell us who "We" is in this instance?

The 'headLEASE' probably is only worth that amount, remember the LEASE is the bit which allows the rugby to be played and the ground needs a severe and costly upgrading to fit it out for the 21st century.

If, as freehold owners, the council were to have other plans for the site I guess the political fallout would be massive if those plans didn't include rugby, either on-site or elsewhere. I'd also suspect that other sites, maybe not built into a hillside and without the toxic waste (and god knows what else) buried inside it might work out being better value to a possible purchaser. A fresh start elsewhere might also be a more viable option for the rugby club too.

If it was such a fantastic investment opportunity with no complicating factors it would've already had something built on it by now. People have had plans for it for the past 80 years and nothing has come of them.

We'll still be there in 20 years.

...and the RFL are off to Manchester. Why wouldn't they want to off-load it now. There is no need for the plan b

The Head Lease, which the RFL now own, stipulates that until 31 May 2019 the place has to be used for playing first team rugby football.
After that the tenant (RFL) can use it for anything they want subject only to planning consent.
That lease runs out in October 2152.

The "old" Bulls underlease from the RFL was for 30 years from 2011 so ends (i.e. would have ended) at the end of 2041.
So far as I know, nobody knows the details of the present club's lease apart from insiders, so it may be as per the old underlease, or it might not, I can't say.
Bearing that in mind, under the old underlease, RFL could give Bulls notice at any time, if RFL wanted to redevelop the ground
But would have to provide us with an alternative stadium with due bells and whistles, a min 18K capacity, within 4 miles.

Random unconnected factoid: As the crow flies, VP is around 3 miles from Odsal.