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| Quote ="roger daily"what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player in a very average team,and thats been kind to player and team'"
you really are stupid arent you ?
liek osmeone said he ca back from an injurythat could have potentially ended his career.
Paul deacon from 2006 was not as he was because he nearley DIED with his cheek fracture.
it takes b*lls to play and by the sound of you you havent touched a rugby ball in your life.
average eam ye but he is a good player.
if he was so average then i wonder why saints, warrington and wigan were after him..hmmmmm
they say theres method behind the madness but your staright up crazy mate
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Gotta agree. He's nothing but average IMO.
Never rated him and always boggled as to why people did and evidently still do.
But Phil Clarke, Steve Mac and Paul Medley think he's good, so that must be gospel.
Whitehead, Olbison, Addy are all streets ahead of him.'"
You added a new persona, Mike?
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| Quote ="roger daily"what a ridiculous post
donaldson is a very average player ...and thats been kind to player ...'"
What a ridiculous post. The truth is that everyone was chasing Donaldson's signature as a schoolboy, since he was considered by many good judges, including the scouts at Wigan and at Leeds, to be the top schoolboy talent in the country. This, I would suggest, is top out of many, many thousands of young RL players. And he showed plenty of that rich promise before his serious injury.
Only a real dullard could consider a lad named as the top schoolboy talent in the country "very average". But hey don't let the facts, much less the opinions of the country's top talent scouts etc. deflect you from your dotty convictions. I am sure you know better than any of them.
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| Getting rid of Crookes when he's just starting to come good is a brilliant idea. Get rid of a teenager who still doesn't have that much SL experience yet too. No idea why you're not coaching a SL side.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What a ridiculous post. The truth is that everyone was chasing Donaldson's signature as a schoolboy, since he was considered by many good judges, including the scouts at Wigan and at Leeds, to be the top schoolboy talent in the country. This, I would suggest, is top out of many, many thousands of young RL players. And he showed plenty of that rich promise before his serious injury.
Only a real dullard could consider a lad named as the top schoolboy talent in the country "very average". But hey don't let the facts, much less the opinions of the country's top talent scouts etc. deflect you from your dotty convictions. I am sure you know better than any of them.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What a ridiculous post. The truth is that everyone was chasing Donaldson's signature as a schoolboy, since he was considered by many good judges, including the scouts at Wigan and at Leeds, to be the top schoolboy talent in the country. This, I would suggest, is top out of many, many thousands of young RL players. And he showed plenty of that rich promise before his serious injury.
Only a real dullard could consider a lad named as the top schoolboy talent in the country "very average". But hey don't let the facts, much less the opinions of the country's top talent scouts etc. deflect you from your dotty convictions. I am sure you know better than any of them.
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| so we are on about how good a schoolboy he was and everyone was chasing him,they may well of done but can you see any of the top 8 rushing to sign him now, and please dont all be saying he would walk into any team cos he wont ,he is average,this is his 3rd season in the first team,yes he has had a bad injury but saw nothing before he got injured to suggest hes gonna be anything other than average and im afraid we have too many players who fit that bill
as for crookes,what do people see in him,he runs a few metres from acting half,granted bulls dont pass to wingers,but again hes been in first team squad for 3 years and seen absolutely nothing to suggest hes any good
and in answer to some numptys question, i have played for a lot of years at a very high standard in the national conference league, so i actually do know my stuff
if bulls wants to stay 9th and 10th these are the type of players we will be needing
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| Quote ="roger daily"and in answer to some numptys question, i have played for a lot of years at a very high standard in the national conference league, so i actually do know my stuff
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Think we all know who the biggest numpty is on this thread.
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| remember donaldson got picked against catalan cos sibbitt and langley were injured
seems mick potter thinks the same as me
not like you very knowledgable numptys on here
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You added a new persona, Mike?
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This one is not me Adey, but I dont disagree with him on this one.
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| Schoolboy and Super League are two different beasts.
Being a top schoolboy doesnt automatically mean youre going to make a top super league player.
As we have with Donno so far, he's shown nothing to suggest he has the potential to be a very good SL player.
So far it looks like the countries top talent scouts were barking up the wrong tree.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"Schoolboy and Super League are two different beasts.
Being a top schoolboy doesnt automatically mean youre going to make a top super league player.
As we have with Donno so far, he's shown nothing to suggest he has the potential to be a very good SL player.
So far it looks like the countries top talent scouts were barking up the wrong tree.'"
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| Before his injury, I must have been watching some other Donaldson, then.
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| Quote ="Toonbull"I think you are being harsh on him. He was offered scholorships by every big name in Super League, we beat them all to his signature and we should be delighted we did. As has been said he's coming back from a horrendous injury which affected his pre-season build up.
Getting rid of Donaldson would lead to me calling for the Board and Potter to be sectioned en masse. It would also make whichever SL side he chose a stronger one.....the more I think about it the more I think you're winding us up, I'm now cross with myself for biting.'"
Donno is crap
Too far up his own
Macca rated him- no one else does
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Donno is crap
Too far up his own booty'"
this is the sort of non-rugby related, malicious asswipe comment that makes me puke. I don't know Donaldson personally but when I've met him he seems like a very grounded young chap, and this seems to be backed up by the Bullbuilder interview [urlhttp://www.bullbuilder.co.uk/news.php?arc=2[/url which didn't seem to find him "up his own booty" at all. Not that if he was, it would have any bearing on his ability to play rugby.
Quote Him being in the England knights squad is laughable! ...'"
Ah yes, forgot that. Yet more of the country's most experienced and knowledgeable selectors dropping a bollock, by failing to have the true and real in-depth knowledge of players that your sort do. Shame that. Funny how, in Donaldson's case, there are so many of them.
Still, having suffered ruptured knee ligaments in the Bulls cause, and battled his way over a year to something like fitness again, all at the tender age of 18, I should think if he reads your comments he'll be glad he did. 'Supporters' like you are the feelgood factor that make it all worthwhile.
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| Potter putting in Koppy instead of Donaldson says more about Potter than Donno imo.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Donno is crap
Too far up his own bootyMacca rated him- no one else does
Him being in the England knights squad is laughable! When potter puts a prop -koppy in instead of donno that sums up how little he contributes to bulls.'"
You're entitled to your opinion on his playing abilities (which I strongly disagree with) but this comment is complete garbage.
His feet are firmly on the ground. I've met his Mum and sister (now an England International back rower) and they were lovely too. He's been brought up very well.
As for "contributing little to the bulls" - you are aware that he made his first team debut during an injury crisis. At the same time his brother was involved in an accident on the family's farm that saw him wheelchair bound for the rest of his life. Despite the club telling him to go home you are aware he decided (as a 17/18 year old kid and with his parents blessing) to stay and continue playing for the club?
I think following his injury a bit of loyalty is owed to him.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"You're entitled to your opinion on his playing abilities (which I strongly disagree with) but this comment is complete garbage.
His feet are firmly on the ground. I've met his Mum and sister (now an England International back rower) and they were lovely too. He's been brought up very well.
As for "contributing little to the bulls" - you are aware that he made his first team debut during an injury crisis. At the same time his brother was involved in an accident on the family's farm that saw him wheelchair bound for the rest of his life. Despite the club telling him to go home you are aware he decided (as a 17/18 year old kid and with his parents blessing) to stay and continue playing for the club?
I think following his injury a bit of loyalty is owed to him.'"
All true, but I have the feeling that you're wasting your breath on this nasty piece of work.
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Too far up his own booty
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Have you met the lad? Spoken with him? Spent several hours in his company?
I have. As have a number who post on here.
And for that reason, I can say with absolute confidence that you are talking total utter and complete bollox.
You'd struggle to meet a nicer, more decent lad IMO. And you can add the likes of Olbi and Koppy in there too.
Now, given we have demonstrated THAT part of what you posted is garbage, I suggest it is probable that so is the rest?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"All true, but I have the feeling that you're wasting your breath on this nasty piece of
Hit a raw nerve have I? Anyone would think you were his mother in desguise!!!!
I hear a lot from a bulls player living in Leeds who yes does actually know what his team mates are like doh!
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"Donno is crap
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Macca rated him- no one else does
Him being in the England knights squad is laughable! When potter puts a prop -koppy in instead of donno that sums up how little he contributes to bulls.'"
Unfortunately for your mother you maybe slightly dimwitted. He may not have torn things up since his return from injury but he has the makings of a very good player and played his heart out in a poorly coached and injury hit team last year before his injury.
I have met him on a couple of occasions and he is a smashing lad, not in the least how you describe him. Therefore, I conclude you know very little about what your talking about and should try living up to your own sense of self importance by actually going out and doing something useful rather than annoying people on here.
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| I'm just amazed by how many people on here seem to have met James Donaldson
I can honestly say that I feel somewhat left out ** pouts **
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I'm just amazed by how many people on here seem to have met James Donaldson
I can honestly say that I feel somewhat left out ** pouts **
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I said I've met his mum and his sister.
They were at the England vs New Zealand Four nations match at the Galpharm in 2009. They'd been helping him move into his flat. It was in the drinks queue Direct Golf UK stand Upper tier.
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| Can't resist biting and again I'm annoyed at myself for it. Donaldson and family are the nicest people you could meet. I've mentioned him before, but my younger Brother has Downs Syndrome and James chats to him all the time on facebook, supports him in all the sport he plays, wished him well going into independent living, and always comes over to say hi whenever he sees us at Odsal. This includes times in the players lounge last season where he ran his blood to water in games we lost by 40+. I had to stop him going on the pitch to sort Ferriol out on Saturday!
In his first season, he was working in the club shop and Andrea jokingly shouted at him. I said "remember this when you get picked for England". As has been said he had the heartbreak of what happened to his Brother, and at the age of 18 managed to not let it affect his Rugby.
When he got his severe injury my Brother dedicated the hatrick he got at football that week, both him and his Mam told me how touched they were by the gesture.
If you think Donaldson is up himself I'd hate to meet your idea of a good bloke.
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