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| Quote ="kentcat"in past seasons hell yes but not this one, so far
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Read Terry Monster's original post - and his rather outlandish assertion that Menzies is in a different league to Martin at any position on the field. And YOU then went and AGREED with him regarding past seasons (but not this one)!
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| Menzies is the one to watch, I would have a man to man marking him in some way just to keep him out of the game but to be truthful not sure if we have anybody that could do it, will just have to rely on your crap defense and hope we score more than you
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| Quote ="Liane"He has been our consistant performer, wherever he has been played. He played 4 positions on friday according to McNamaras post match analysis.'"
I thought that he was possibly our best too on Friday, as much as anything for how he just slotted in everywhere and some smart actions - although several like Cook Halley Jeffries and Sykes when at SO ran him close. I can see Beaver becoming increasingly influential in the side as both he and the rest of the side become more familiar with each other - earlier games how many times have we seen him looking for support which was not there? Getting less so now it appeared to me anyway.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Just comparing sides and the players in the posistions mentioned.
In bold the players i'd prefer in my side.
Matt Blaymire -- Halley
Damien Blanch -- Sheriffe
Sean Gleeson -- Sykes
Ryan Atkins -- Crookes
Aaron Murphy --Tadulala
Tony Martin --Menzies
Danny Brough --Jeffries
Oliver Wilkes -- Lynch
Tevita Leo-Latu -- Newton (consistency and due to playing more game time)
Steve Snitch -- Koppy
Dale Ferguson -- Langley Looking a real prospect.
Kevin Henderson -- Cook Cant pick either hendo been poor last few yrs however this year playing much better.
Jason Demetriou -- Burgess
Probably the toughest choice ive had to make, burgess a really talented player with a huge amount of potential / future in this game. Against JD, our captain fantastic tries his heart out every game puts 100% in, has had to overcome real adversity both individually and had to be at the fore-front of the recovery from the Watene and Walker Incidents - so for wakefield (my team) id choose Demetriou, for any other burgess would be my selection.
Brad Drew -- Solomona
Danny Sculthorpe -- Scruton getting some games under his belt, getting his fitness levels up, making many yards and chances.
Jay Pitts -- Worrincy
Kyle Bibb -- Donaldson
Cant comment havent seen much of either of bradfords side, however our young players from our academy arent letting us down and tbf are playing really well.
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I get the feeling that this is slightly, just slightly, biased towards Wakefield.
I may be wrong...
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| Quote ="debaser"I get the feeling that this is slightly, just slightly, biased towards Wakefield.
I may be wrong...
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Think you could be right.
Demetriou or Burgess? Hmmmmm..........
And don't get me started on rating Martin above Menzies. I'm not saying Martin isn't a good player because I quite rate him but do to do that over Menzies is crazy.
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| Quote ="kingmonkey"Think you could be right.
Demetriou or Burgess? Hmmmmm..........
And don't get me started on rating Martin above Menzies. I'm not saying Martin isn't a good player because I quite rate him but do to do that over Menzies is crazy.'"
...as do I JD too. Different roles and responsibilities, so comparisons are a bit pointless really when not comparing like with like.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Just comparing sides and the players in the posistions mentioned.
In bold the players i'd prefer in my side.
Matt Blaymire -- Halley
Damien Blanch -- Sheriffe
Sean Gleeson -- Sykes
Ryan Atkins -- Crookes
Aaron Murphy --Tadulala
Tony Martin --Menzies
Danny Brough --Jeffries
Oliver Wilkes -- Lynch
Tevita Leo-Latu -- Newton (consistency and due to playing more game time)
Steve Snitch -- Koppy
Dale Ferguson -- Langley Looking a real prospect.
Kevin Henderson -- Cook Cant pick either hendo been poor last few yrs however this year playing much better.
Jason Demetriou -- Burgess
Probably the toughest choice ive had to make, burgess a really talented player with a huge amount of potential / future in this game. Against JD, our captain fantastic tries his heart out every game puts 100% in, has had to overcome real adversity both individually and had to be at the fore-front of the recovery from the Watene and Walker Incidents - so for wakefield (my team) id choose Demetriou, for any other burgess would be my selection.
Brad Drew -- Solomona
Danny Sculthorpe -- Scruton getting some games under his belt, getting his fitness levels up, making many yards and chances.
Jay Pitts -- Worrincy
Kyle Bibb -- Donaldson
Cant comment havent seen much of either of bradfords side, however our young players from our academy arent letting us down and tbf are playing really well.
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Thats the funniest thing ive read on here for ages i'll be there and i hope we murder you
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| Not even nearly funny..pre season a giant fan put that raleigh was better than menzies..now that was comedy.
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| Quote ="ritz"Not even nearly funny..pre season a giant fan put that raleigh was better than menzies..now that was comedy.'" what would you expect for shudders if we can control menzies we might have a chance, roll on monday
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| tbf its always hard for regular fans to gage the opposition , 2 days before round 1 i would be shocked to think of tony martin as the dominant player but seeing him this season i can categorically say he has every chance .
however not seeing too much of the bulls this season my judgment may be clouded , as may yours .
all we have to go on is the league table.
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| In the past when we've played the likes of Bradford, Leeds, Wigan and St Helens, i always think 'Wish i could watch him play in a Trinity shirt', but i can honestly say with possibly the exception of Burgess who is well out of sorts i wouldn't take any of you're players.
Some of your fans are still living in the past, you aren't the team you use to be. Gone are the glory days, you're just the same as the rest of the teams from 3rd - 12th. Very capable of beating of us but also just as likely to lose.
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| Who knows how it will pan out, no one can take games for granted this season or we may well come unstuck.
Heard Menzies is in good form from Bradford fans at work but not realy seen too much of him, have to say with my rose tinted on, that Brad drew will run the show and win us the game, but hey i've been wrong many times.
Lets hope for good weather and clean game and the best team to win without the refs help.
Safe journey over.
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| Quote ="kingmonkey"Think you could be right.
Demetriou or Burgess? Hmmmmm..........
And don't get me started on rating Martin above Menzies. I'm not saying Martin isn't a good player because I quite rate him but do to do that over Menzies is crazy.'"
Read my analysis and you may figure out why
Burgess is a better player , but for what JD does for our team he would have to go infront of burgess in that posistion. For any other team i wouldnt hesitate in putting burgess infront of JD
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| Quote ="!RYAN!"Thats the funniest thing ive read on here for ages i'll be there and i hope we murder you'"
Lets face it you havent had a lot to laugh about this season have you so its understandable. I think most of your fans would settle for a win and those what are hard to please at best a thrashing. It is only a game you know
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"In the past when we've played the likes of Bradford, Leeds, Wigan and St Helens, i always think 'Wish i could watch him play in a Trinity shirt', but i can honestly say with possibly the exception of Burgess who is well out of sorts i wouldn't take any of you're players.'"
You don't think Andy Lynch would get in your team ahead of Wilkes, Snitch, Bibey, Sculthorpe or Moore?
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"You don't think Andy Lynch would get in your team ahead of Wilkes, Snitch, Bibey, Sculthorpe or Moore?'"
I'd rather have Wilkes, Moore and Stosic. Snitch plays second row and Sculthorpe does a job from the bench. I like how Bibb is coming along and our forwards are working really well as a unit. I don't imagine with a fully fit side that Bibey would play, but to be fair he has done a job when he's played.
Even with the injuries we've suffered our forwards are still playing superbly and Wilkes in particular with Stosic before his injury we're outstanding. Lynch is a good player but i can't say i'd be bothered if we signed him or not as i'm happy with what we've got.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'd rather have Wilkes, Moore and Stosic. Snitch plays second row and Sculthorpe does a job from the bench. I like how Bibb is coming along and our forwards are working really well as a unit. I don't imagine with a fully fit side that Bibey would play, but to be fair he has done a job when he's played.
Even with the injuries we've suffered our forwards are still playing superbly and Wilkes in particular with Stosic before his injury we're outstanding. Lynch is a good player but i can't say i'd be bothered if we signed him or not as i'm happy with what we've got.'"
Over Lynch?
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'd rather have Wilkes, Moore and Stosic. Snitch plays second row and Sculthorpe does a job from the bench. I like how Bibb is coming along and our forwards are working really well as a unit. I don't imagine with a fully fit side that Bibey would play, but to be fair he has done a job when he's played.
Even with the injuries we've suffered our forwards are still playing superbly and Wilkes in particular with Stosic before his injury we're outstanding. Lynch is a good player but i can't say i'd be bothered if we signed him or not as i'm happy with what we've got.'" .
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| Quote ="redeverready"Menzies is more of a 6 than Martin is and he's never played 8 or 10.'"
Oh and you know that from your limited knowledge of watching both, oh dear another person who only see's the name - now I'm laughing.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"I see the guys point actually, I mean, who wouldn't want Steve Menzies over Tony Martin, anywhere on the field.'"
So basically you're a one man team. One narrow win and you're bragging already - how sad.
Menzies is a hero of mine and I would have him in my team - TEAM is the word here - is he part of a team?
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| I suggest that, notwithstanding how absurd or otherwise some of these comparisons might appear to some to be, it might be prudent to keep our powder dry till after the match? I've learnt from long experience that these sort of things have a nasty habit of coming back and biting you.
Like the chant of "easy" did at Cas the other week.
Anyway, player comparisons will always be subjective!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I suggest that, notwithstanding how absurd or otherwise some of these comparisons might appear to some to be, it might be prudent to keep our powder dry till after the match? I've learnt from long experience that these sort of things have a nasty habit of coming back and biting you.
Like the chant of "easy" did at Cas the other week.
Anyway, player comparisons will always be subjective!'"
Well said. Best to crow after the event from experience.
Of course it's subjective, some of the cloth heads on here probably won't of seen half the players they are dismissing play and have absolutely no idea what they are on about.
I'd take any number of Bradford players - what stuns me is that some on here want to laugh at it the other way around. Which is odd when you consider that 3 of your best Jeffries, Tadulala and Solomona came from errr who was it now and a fourth Halley has come back to you from err who was it now twice the palyer he was. Some very stupid people on this forum.
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| Quote ="vastman"So basically you're a one man team. One narrow win and you're bragging already - how sad.
Menzies is a hero of mine and I would have him in my team - TEAM is the word here - is he part of a team?'"
What? This is a player comparison.
Menizes is a better, centre, stand off and any position in the pack and field better than Tony Martin - end of story.
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