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| Quote ="Bulliac"Once we lose, say Chisholm, Moss, maybe Kavanagh, then we're looking pretty much a mid-table championship side, a mid table championship side with a 12 point deficit and only 23 games to make anything up [and 3 of them against HKR.'"
Gotta be honest, I think that's overly optimistic. Losing those 3 IMO would make us a bottom end Championship side, not mid table. There'll only be the likes of Burr, Pryce, Foster & Ryan who have any real quality.
I honestly think keeping those three you mention could be a big difference. If we lose those aswell, we're looking in a really really bad state.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops":31d3iprmGotta be honest, I think that's overly optimistic. Losing those 3 IMO would make us a bottom end Championship side, not mid table. There'll only be the likes of Burr, Pryce, Foster & Ryan who have any real quality.
I honestly think keeping those three you mention could be a big difference. If we lose those aswell, we're looking in a really really bad state.'" though I disagree a little about the quality side of things. Maybe I should have said potential? A few of those being touted are, definitely very promising players, but still somewhere between a bit and quite a lot, 'undercooked', as first team squad players; Oakes, Trueman, Foster, Bentley, Keyes and Lumb are well short of experience if we're expecting them to be regular players.
Oh, my guesstimate about mid-table was intended to mean if we'd still been on zero at the kick off, on -12 we're relegation fodder, I accept that totally.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Hard to say, to be fair.
I agree those three are probably critical in our having any kind of season at all [though definitely they are the three most likely to leave, imo though I disagree a little about the quality side of things. Maybe I should have said potential? A few of those being touted are, definitely very promising players, but still somewhere between a bit and quite a lot, 'undercooked', as first team squad players; Oakes, Trueman, Foster, Bentley, Keyes and Lumb are well short of experience if we're expecting them to be regular players.'"
I don't disagree with you. Without a few signings, we are definitely going to be relying on some young heads to step up earlier than was probably planned before things went pear shaped.
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| another hooker and a 3 forwards and we are back in business, at least competing anyway.
If we can employ a bit of Dunkirk spirit and fight against adversity we may just get there, or at least employ a bit more effort & Enthusiasm than was there at points last year.
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| Quote ="bowlingboy"another hooker and a 3 forwards and we are back in business, at least competing anyway.
If we can employ a bit of Dunkirk spirit and fight against adversity we may just get there, or at least employ a bit more effort & Enthusiasm than was there at points last year.'"
Rather depends on which players become available, to be honest. On the very unlikely off-chance that some other club goes belly up then maybe we could get some quality from someone else's fire sale, but otherwise, I can't imagine where we're going to get the sort of quality we'd need to overcome our handicap. It's not as though we're any great attraction at the moment and who would want to sign for, what with the best will in the world, is going to be a wasted year?
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| This thread makes me nervous. Some of you guys are tempting fate massively here.
I'm refraining from choosing a possible 17 until we actually have a team to support and the contracts are signed!
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| If the Batley friendly goes ahead, it might be worth playing trialists.
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| Quote ="Nothus"This thread makes me nervous. Some of you guys are tempting fate massively here.
I'm refraining from choosing a possible 17 until we actually have a team to support and the contracts are signed!'"
It does make a nice change to be discussing actual RL, teams and games, than owners debts and leases.
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| If you can retain Pryce & Chisholm then you have the building blocks, although you will need cover for Pryce who needs nursing through a season.
Fingers crossed the right 'option' is taken up by the RFL re new owners although I would have thought input from the Bulls fanbase should be sought before rubber stamping.
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| Quote ="Nothus"This thread makes me nervous. Some of you guys are tempting fate massively here.
I'm refraining from choosing a possible 17 until we actually have a team to support and the contracts are signed!'"
There is no such thing as fate.
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| At this moment in time I have no doubt that we will start the season with a new owner.
All I can think about is can we keep Chisholm and Moss.
Those two plus Leon will give us and edge in the play making department over most other teams. Yes, the pack is looking thin but Rohan can and will bring new players in. Without quality halves that wouldn't matter too much as we have seen over the last two seasons. What a shame the young lad from Saints went to Cumbria. I think he could have been a decent hooker and kicker.
I am amazed Chisholm and Moss haven't gone. I wonder if Rohan has persuaded them to help him out.
Please, please let them stay and build the team around them.
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| Chisholm posted "Everyone have faith" on twitter today followed by two thumbs up and a picture of a Bull. Read into that what you will. He also "liked" a couple of people's responses to today's T&A article which said he is likely to leave. The responses he "liked" were people saying it is all speculation and not to believe everything you read in the papers.
People's starting lineups that have been posted in this thread dont mention Colton Roche. He is a prop/second rower and was in the picture of all the lads training yesterday. That is one more tough, more experienced head to add to potentially add to the mix. We'd definitely need a few loans/signimgs though.
Still keeping fingers crossed and dreading reading T&A/Twitter every day in case another departure is announced.
Am I doing my sums right here:
23 regular season games = 46 points on offer.
46 minus 12 point deduction = 34 maximum points we can finish regular season on.
If we lose say 10 games (20 points) we finish on 14 points.
Bottom 2 last year finished on 11, third bottom 14 and fourth bottom 15.
That is before we consider the extra Championship Shield games and how that can change the table.
If we keep all the players listed and add a few more on loan there is no reason we can't survive. We lost 8 Championship games in the regular season last year and drew two. All of those results but for the Featherstone game came before we had both of Moss and Chisholm in the side and were playing Addy/Mathers/Haggerty/Thomas in the halves.
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| Quote ="thepimp007"I've had a bet with someone at work if we get a 12 point deduction and keep the current squad and can add we will survive relegation'"
I hope you have lumped on because I can't see us getting relegated with any squad we manage to scramble together.
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| Quote ="Smack him Jimmy"Optimism from a Bulls fan! - I want some of whatever you're drinking
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All dependant on current squad being kept! Lose moss, Chisholm and kavanagh we are struggling big time
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| Quote ="thepimp007"All dependant on current squad being kept! Lose moss, Chisholm and kavanagh we are struggling big time'"
That is the crux of the matter.
If, we've lost all we're going to lose, then there is still a chance, that we can avoid relegation,and with luck, who knows, maybe even hit the dizzy heights of lower mid table, but losing such as Moss, Pryce, Chisholm and Kavanagh would drop our chances to nil, imo. As I said earlier, anyone coming in for a player isn't going to be looking at those on the bigger numbers in our squad, - when we get some numbers, that is?
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| I hav moved ze posts that vur NOT about ze squad.
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| LoveRugbyLeague's weekly gossip column suggesting that Colton Roche is now trialling with Wakey and Alex Foster has interest from 3 Super League clubs.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"LoveRugbyLeague's weekly gossip column suggesting that Colton Roche is now trialling with Wakey and Alex Foster has interest from 3 Super League clubs.'"
Whilst wanting the RFL to go through the applications with a fine tooth comb and get the right man in.
I wish they would fuc&ing hurry up every day is nerve racking!!!!
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| Rumours on twitter that Moss off to another championship club. Far too good for this division.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Rumours on twitter that Moss off to another championship club. Far too good for this division.'"
Done deal to KR apparently
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| Quote ="Jossy B"Done deal to KR apparently'"
Last one out please turn off the light
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| I can't be the only one that sees Fev touting an exciting announcement at 1pm and automatically thinks they've signed one of our ex players.
This is the paranoid attitude that's been instilled into us all lately!
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I can't be the only one that sees Fev touting an exciting announcement at 1pm and automatically thinks they've signed one of our ex players.
This is the paranoid attitude that's been instilled into us all lately!'"
Cant we have a exciting or even semi exciting announcement today?
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I can't be the only one that sees Fev touting an exciting announcement at 1pm and automatically thinks they've signed one of our ex players.
This is the paranoid attitude that's been instilled into us all lately!'"
Just a new website.
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