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| Quote ="debaser"It was dire. Again. 2 home games. 1 pt. No idea. No spark. Good defence. But I think we could camp on the oppositions try line for 80 mins and not score. I fear for us when we play Saints, Leeds, etc.
Without Morrison we would have lost by 40.
We can blame the ref if we like (yes the Hudds try was a mile forwards, etc) but that would hide our absolute deficiencies. FFS we couldnt even catch the ball from the kick off. What 4, 5 times we let it bounce? Painful. Im not sure I've ever been quite as depressed after a Bulls performance.'"
Which one? 3 tries to one wasn't it? Sour grapes I think, with the penalty count at one stage being 12-2 in Bradfords favour I don't think you can blame Ganson for the loss.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"and yours was a knock on !!'" Give over.
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| One of worst things today was surely the fact that the giants came to odsal and looked far classier than bradford. Our attack is just so poor in the backs. They never looked like breaking a tackle.
It was all a bit clueless to say the least.
And if i wanted to see penalty goals i'd watch union. That just showed to me how unconfident the team are at unlocking a defence. Everyone of them penalties was in a position i'd expect a home team to be looking for a try that early in a game. Poor tactics. Not bad if you win.. but what was it.. 3 tries to 1.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Give over.'"
further back in the tackle count !!
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| You lost get over it and move on .
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| Well said young man,
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| There looked to be no passion or desire to win the game from the majority of players in the last 20 minutes tonight, Morrison, Menzies, Tadulala Nero and Kopczack were about the only players who played with any determination.
Like a lot of people are saying, we've got a very capable pack, but no idea whatsoever how to score. We aren't conceding a lot of points, mostly due to our discipline and ability to get the fundamentals right, but we've also scored less points than everyone barring quins. We're desperately lacking any initiative or mobility in the halves, when the ball gets to Jefferies any flow just seems to stop.
McNamara has some very big problems to sort out very quickly if we're going to win games this season. If we don't see a turnaround in the next couple of weeks It's going to be another pointless season.
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| Quote ="propunker"There looked to be no passion or desire to win the game from the majority of players in the last 20 minutes tonight, Morrison, Menzies, Tadulala Nero and Kopczack were about the only players who played with any determination.
Like a lot of people are saying, we've got a very capable pack, but no idea whatsoever how to score. We aren't conceding a lot of points, mostly due to our discipline and ability to get the fundamentals right, but we've also scored less points than everyone barring quins. We're desperately lacking any initiative or mobility in the halves, when the ball gets to Jefferies any flow just seems to stop.
McNamara has some very big problems to sort out very quickly if we're going to win games this season. If we don't see a turnaround in the next couple of weeks It's going to be another pointless season.'"
Quite true. I have never been a fan of Ben Jeffries. He just doesn't have that skill or little bit of extra that's needed. To be honest, I would have rather kept Iestyn Harris on a reduced contract. At least Harris knew what to do with the ball. Like you say, when Ben Jeffries recieves the ball, everything just dies. I know some people view him as a scrum half, but to me it doesn't matter where he plays because he just doesn't have that little bit extra that we are looking for. I wouldn't even consider him adequate back up.
I thought we looked more dangerous when he went off and Steve Menzies played there agaisnt Hull Kingston Rovers and I hope to god that Greg Bird wins his court cases without any charge because I can't see much going our way if we have to endure another season of Ben Jeffries..
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| I thought Newton was very poor tonight, he has seriously hit the wall, no ideas, lazy, slow passer of the ball, Platt, no need to explain the sooner they tear up his contract and pay him out the better, give jeffries credit for effort, he tried to create but at the end of the day, you buy wakey, you get wakey, not a champion stand off for me, Glenn Morrison needs to chill he is 150mph all the time, makes rash desicions, tonight 2 men inside him to win the game and he kicks the ball into to touch - MENTAL - Impresses wid cooky, excellent try saver, gives 100% every game, no nonsense player. Finally we have to remember Huddersfield are no poor team, the salary cap is having an effect, it's becoming a more levelled competition, predicting wins is difficult, They played well and took a lot of stick from our forwards, soaked it up and run in a couple of good tries - Halfbacks played well and i was impressed with Scott Moore, saints have more youth talent coming through there!
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| My own personal thoughts are you have nothing at half back, we soaked 20 mins of pressure up for the 1st 20 mins of each half, you lacked go forward when Paul went off, even on the back of a 12-5 penalty count you didnt really trouble us till the last 10 mins when Robbo intercepted Morrisons inside ball and him kicking into touch later on
Didnt see Newton tackle once below the shoulders, though Burgess went well and the blonde prop who came on went well, neither of the wingers shirked work, all in all a cracking game though i think we deserved it.
Back tomorrow for the reserve game, see you then
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| For months I've disagreed with redeverready and mystic eddie, said we need to give the guy a chance. I've said we need some continuity with our fixtures, but tonight I lost my tether.
I see no creativity, the team looks devoid of ideas, Deacon being off the field made no difference which is a serious concern, that we don't miss our 7.
The pack were again excellent, except Newton. He's simply too slow, and we lost that game in the ruck, Newton doesn't make things happen like a Diskin or Cunningham.
The fact we look clueless near the try-line is one mans fault, and I'm personally sick of it now. l
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| Quote ="!RYAN!"Glenn Morrison needs to chill he is 150mph all the time, makes rash desicions, tonight 2 men inside him to win the game and he kicks the ball into to touch - MENTAL - !
Thoughts?'"
I think Morrison realised that we needed someone to try and grab the game by the scruff of the neck and as no one else seemed willing he at least tried. Yes, he made the wrong decision but at least he was willing to try something.
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| Quote ="PONNER"snip/quote
Hone town club?
Oh I see, implying that all Bulls fans have a Huddersfield post code. Well, its not far away is it? You would have thought you could have managed to bring a few more fans wouldn't you? Especially seeing as you're doing so well. I hate to see how many you will bring when your performances drop off.
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| Quote ="debaser"Exactly. All these people calling for Macnamara's head don't seem to have any ideas about who could replace him.
So come on, lets hear them. Im not aware of a queue of quality coaches beating a path to the door.'" There certainly is not a quality coach beating a path to Peter Hoods' door within Odsal at the moment.
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| i was at the game last night i thought we were borin why did we opt to kick 3 penalties only mins into the game when they were on the rack they had nothing to throw at us, they threatned our line once in the first half and scored wot a joke we should have put the game to bed early on, looks like wigan will get thier 1st win of the season next week
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| I didn't see the game or listen to it. I did see Wakey, without their recognised half backs, slaughter Wire. They've also done it against Salford and Wigan. That is down to coaching and spirit.
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| Quote ="PONNER"=redWoeful 'contribution''" All the comics on here and you delete my post? Jeez put the dummy back in.
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| [urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7897667.stm[/url
Bradford coach Steve McNamara:
"We had some disruptions throughout the game which threw us off track a bit but we needed to do a bit better to win it.
"They tried very, very hard. I can't fault the effort at all. We still look a bit rusty offensively but I'm very very confident and optimistic about the season."
and Nathan Brown says
'The other team had enough penalties and enough ball to win three or four games but yet we still scored three tries to one."
I'm getting tired of hearing the same things and seeing no results!
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| Quote ="Northern Lad"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7897667.stm[/url
Bradford coach Steve McNamara:
"We had some disruptions throughout the game which threw us off track a bit but we needed to do a bit better to win it.
"They tried very, very hard. I can't fault the effort at all. We still look a bit rusty offensively but I'm very very confident and optimistic about the season."
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| Quote ="Northern Lad"[urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/7897667.stm[/url
Bradford coach Steve McNamara:
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"They tried very, very hard. I can't fault the effort at all. We still look a bit rusty offensively but I'm very very confident and optimistic about the season."
and Nathan Brown says
'The other team had enough penalties and enough ball to win three or four games but yet we still scored three tries to one."
I'm getting tired of hearing the same things and seeing no results!'"
I'd agree with Brown's assessment of the game. We should have won last night at a trot. What other team would kick 3 goals in run-able areas? It seems that McNamara knows the backs won't score so is trying to get points the only way we can
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| T&A [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sportbulls/sportbullsheadlines/4162299.Bulls_lack_a_cutting_edge/report[/urland [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/4162285.Confidence_not_dented_by_loss/Mc interview[/url are both online now.
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| How many pages of rubbish posted by bulls fans. Give credit where its due!
I think you have to realise Bulls are not what they used to be and Giants are not what they used to be.
You scored 1 try to our 3 and you had every chance but our defence was awesome. Every time you got a penalty you went for goal, now that must be showing us some respect as many moons ago you would have took another set of six.
Your forwards dominated us last night but we had Eorl & Griffin out and it showed but you just did not have any creativity on the pitch. Christ knows what penalty count was last night but you had ample chances to get over the line but you looked clueless.
Like I said we are not the Giants of Old we went to Catalans and won we nearly beat St Helens 6-12 with 5 Min's to go but ended up losing 6-23 which flattered them tbh and we beat a you.
Good luck for the rest of the season. See you in the play offs!
PS: all you fans that deserted Giants to follow the Bulls , the ship is sinking come and join the revolution at the Galpharm!
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