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| Quote ="Duckman"icon_biggrin.gifOH: just about to post it....too slow as usual
too clever by half for us mat.'"
I just thought he was a Danny Dyer wannabe.
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| Could see a straight swap for Josh Mccrone happening. If we're not going for an established star, Cherry-Evans looks good to me. Seems to have all the attributes of a future star. I know he's contracted to Manly, but since when does that mean anything.
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| The more I think about it, the more I can see a swap with Josh Mccrone happening. He's always struggled to break into the 1st team but built up an excellent partnership with Terry Campese at the back end of this year. Campese being the star of the show. As it looks like Campese will be out for most of next year, Canberra obviously don't think Mccrone can cut the mustard on his own, hence there eagerness to sign Orford.
Straight swap for Orford, pay him half of what Orford was on (still a good whack) and throw the remaining cash at a star stand off. Jobs a good un.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"The more I think about it, the more I can see a swap with Josh Mccrone happening. He's always struggled to break into the 1st team but built up an excellent partnership with Terry Campese at the back end of this year. Campese being the star of the show. As it looks like Campese will be out for most of next year, Canberra obviously don't think Mccrone can cut the mustard on his own, hence there eagerness to sign Orford.
Straight swap for Orford, pay him half of what Orford was on (still a good whack) and throw the remaining cash at a star stand off. Jobs a good un.'"
think the key phrase there is 'partnership with terry campese'. surely they will now want him to form a partnership with orford?. dont think many clubs would expect 1 half of a halfback pairing to cope for a season on their own hence why they need orford to replace campese.
although, that said, they may face salary cap pressure having campese,orford and mcrone on books at same time. especially if they also sign moltzen (sp) who they were chasing.
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| Quote ="mat"think the key phrase there is 'partnership with terry campese'. surely they will now want him to form a partnership with orford?. dont think many clubs would expect 1 half of a halfback pairing to cope for a season on their own hence why they need orford to replace campese.
although, that said, they may face salary cap pressure having campese,orford and mcrone on books at same time. especially if they also sign moltzen (sp) who they were chasing.'"
I'd agree if Mccrone was the stand off in the partnership. I wouldn't really expect Canberra to pair 2 scrum halves together especially when they have the rising star Michael Picker as a possible stand off partner for Orford.
I'm pretty certain they'll want to keep hold of Mccrone, but then again, we don't want to lose Orford so there may be some bargaining power.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"I'd agree if Mccrone was the stand off in the partnership. I wouldn't really expect Canberra to pair 2 scrum halves together especially when they have the rising star Michael Picker as a possible stand off partner for Orford.
I'm pretty certain they'll want to keep hold of Mccrone, but then again, we don't want to lose Orford so there may be some bargaining power.'"
suppose it depends how interchangeable you view the 2 halfback roles. A lot of people these days see them as pretty similar and my thinking was that canberra would prefer to only bring in 1 new half rather than an entirely new halves pairing. If they go that route then as you say mccrone could be surplus to requirements. at lest in short term - maybe its a case of them not wanting 2 inexperienced halfs on pitch together. in which case bringing in orford to partner picker makes sense. maybe option of a loan deal for a year for mccrone?. after all ideally we only want someone on 1-2 year deal to allow for southernwood coming into team.
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| Quote ="mat"suppose it depends how interchangeable you view the 2 halfback roles. A lot of people these days see them as pretty similar and my thinking was that canberra would prefer to only bring in 1 new half rather than an entirely new halves pairing. If they go that route then as you say mccrone could be surplus to requirements. at lest in short term - maybe its a case of them not wanting 2 inexperienced halfs on pitch together. in which case bringing in orford to partner picker makes sense. maybe option of a loan deal for a year for mccrone?. after all ideally we only want someone on 1-2 year deal to allow for southernwood coming into team.'"
As I understand, Mccrone is an organising scrum half, similar to Orford. I wondered if a loan deal would be an option. Would work for both parties as Orford doesn't have too many miles left so they'd need a replacement in the next year or 2, and it would be a stop gap for us while southernwood develops or it would give us time to line up a big name for next year.
Is be more than happy with that.
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| dont know which board to put this on,ie(is the pryce right)or (rumours) but from what i've heard from a friend who was talking to leon at a wedding a couple of weeks ago,he (leon) was saying that as soon as the orford saga is sorted out the money will be made available for us to purchase him (leon),that coming from the horses mouth,apparently.thoughts anybody,or is it leon talking through the beer
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| Just wonder then in reply to an earlier poster which said something along the lines of 'Saints' silence is golden and they kept quiet when rumours of Graham to Wire were rife and this didnt happen' that they are keeping quiet because they cant deny Leon is coming home but dont want to announce until as late of possible so not to have an impact on their season ticket sales?
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| and breathe!!
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Just wonder then in reply to an earlier poster which said something along the lines of 'Saints' silence is golden and they kept quiet when rumours of Graham to Wire were rife and this didnt happen' that they are keeping quiet because they cant deny Leon is coming home but dont want to announce until as late of possible so not to have an impact on their season ticket sales?'"
Bet'sy mate, there are hundreds, nay thousands of rumours each and every season, and if every club were to spend time denying each one individually, well they would have to forget all the usual sorts things that club employees are normally doing, because there are only 24 hours in a day they wouldn't have time to fit it all in.
The vast majority are hot air, someone's wishing and hoping, and a few people taking the mick, and of course, there is the odd one which will turn out to have some substance. It's amazing how much time rugby takes up during the summer, probably [inearly [/ias much as reading all the gossip and rumours through the winter.
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| In the case of message board rumours like the Graham one I think you're right. In this case the T and A made a series of statements supported by 'sources close to the player' etc which elevated above the story above rumour status. Consequently, I agree with Bets that Saints silence is a lot more significant than simply 'not responding to rumours'. Their equivalent of Connor in St Helens will certainly have asked the question of the club and as of yet Saints have not scotched the story despite us all being in the 'season ticket season'.
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| Quote ="Maislebugs"I agree with Bets that Saints silence is a lot more significant than simply 'not responding to rumours'. '"
Clearly you are clueless about Saints then. Saints never respond to rumours. Pryce himself might, just like James Graham eventually did over the Warrington rumour. But Saints never do.
Saints never say anything about anything. They are truly useless communicators.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Clearly you are clueless about Saints then. Saints never respond to rumours. Pryce himself might, just like James Graham eventually did over the Warrington rumour. But Saints never do.
Saints never say anything about anything. They are truly useless communicators.'"
This statement is so so true,Saints have never been the best communicators,anyway going back to the OP we will all have to wait and see.
Personally I don't think he is going anywhere but I could be wrong.
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| Within 2 weeks..? (or so I'm led to believe)?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Clearly you are clueless about Saints then. Saints never respond to rumours. Pryce himself might, just like James Graham eventually did over the Warrington rumour. But Saints never do.
Saints never say anything about anything. They are truly useless communicators.'"
So earlier, you told us that the rumour couldn't be true because Saints weren't saying anything about it.
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| Quote ="Stul"So earlier, you told us that the rumour couldn't be true because Saints weren't saying anything about it.'"
She will blame this mistake on Mick Potter
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| Quote ="Stul"So earlier, you told us that the rumour couldn't be true because Saints weren't saying anything about it.'"
And where did I say that exactly?
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"icon_lol.gif
She will blame this mistake on Mick Potter'"
If you found that funny you really are the saddo you make yourself out to be.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"People said we wouldn't go for Diskin and Bosc.
It'll be great having Leon back at the club.'"
according to the new Catalans coach Trent Robinson yesterday - quote - 'Thomas Bosc is going nowhere, he is Catalan through & through'
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| The hints from the T&A have never mentioned Bosc as far as I can remember. The smart money seems to be on us recruiting a 7 from the NRL. The stand off is apparently already playing in SL.
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| I would hope that the whole thing is sorted before the ticket deadline. Just to give it a little extra oomph in terms of sales
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"If you found that funny you really are the saddo you make yourself out to be.'"
There there petal, no need to get personal. Im not Mick Potter
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| Quote ="MacBlondie"There there petal, no need to get personal. Im not Mick Potter'"
No, you aren't. He was a grown up.
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