A couple more yet. Only minor in the grand scheme of monetary value but affects the players pockets.

Surely each one of these posts shows how toxic the club is we have no real idea who runs the club as fans we are drip feed information limited to us expected to feed the club/rfl whilst keept in the dark.
When things go wrong no decent investigation/jerno manages to give a fully accountable picture and anyone who dares talk gets shot down.

For instance would nestegg give us fans a more detailed answer for who funded the pot of money used for the startup of the Charmers era and how duffy still manages to be employed even after countless examples of miss player welfare accross several disappointing bulls reincarnations.

It's the funny handshake brigade isn't it? Either that or Hydra. Although with them being fictional, I think it makes the former more likely.

DM on its way pal as I'd love to know who the twisted shysters are!!!

I've tried to stay out of the conversation as I didn't think adding my own opinions and thoughts would have helped right now. Clearly there is some serious trolling going on here which needs to be put to a stop.

It's out and out dangerous... and cruel. We are talking about peoples livelihoods; jobs, homes, families, personal mental wellbeing... all effected by the constant drivel being spouted off. They should be treated with respect and dignity, not tossed about like a joke on social media.

Roger, I don't personally know you (I know who you are from here and know you by face from seeing you and Elliot in the bar after games... don't worry, I'm not a stalker I promise), but please know that there are lots on here very appreciative of what you bring to the group and also that think a hell of a lot of your lad. Nobody deserves to go what you are all going through and its genuinely heartbreaking as a fan to read what you posted about him growing up wanting to play for the club, being proud to put on the shirt and be captain.

My only hope is that whatever the outcome is, we can have something that we all jointly feel proud to be associated with and maybe a club that Elliot feels proud to don the shirt and lead the team once again.

I'm acutely aware that that may not be possible, but none the less that is my own personal hope.

We collectively say thank you.

Time for all of us, inc 'us' to be a tad more polite. If you think we are off the deep end than as Pumpety advises 'ignore' us. We won't be hurt !

I won't reveal the name of the poster as per the rules. But all I say is in our last admin (I believe it was our last admin, though I may have the time scales wrong) the same said person created another account and spouted similar drivel to nestegg. It was prior to Belecki. Can't remember the alias he used but it was something like UnbelievaBULL or something like that. He's done this before.

This person has a privledged position and is quite frankly abusing it. It's not just said poster causing unrest amongst the fanbase during financial difficulties, he's causing genuine distress to a parent of one of the players. It's disgusting and I personally think he should have those privileges he enjoys removed as he is abusing them to cause upset (whether he intends to or not) Enough is enough.

The CB consortium are we believe not overly confident. The 90% confidence level as per the recent rag article is likely to be spin.

They are worried about forthcoming as of yet unidentified shocks. You may take this as La La Land bile, but we know that they should be worried.

Agree

Correct. We know one creditor who craftily agreed to settle their debt and then said a) you don't own the club, and b) show us your money then. We are told that there was no immediate monies forthcoming; excellent !

God I feel like I'm reading a Sherlock Holmes novel. Do I try and piece together all the clues or do I do the equivalent of flicking to the back of the book, and DM someone.....

Although saying that, with Bull Mania's clues (even without remembering "UnbelievaBULL"icon_wink.gif, I think I can take a fair guess.

As an outsider what you’re doing is immoral.

Thank you very much for the kind words, really do appreciate everything that is getting said, very overwhelming again.

I must of had 40 people message me today and I’ve told everyone what I know, and the reaction has been the same from everyone, as well as all the nice comments too.
If I can tell the truth on what I know, I will do. Not prepared to see anybody taken in by people’s lies. Think those days have gone now.

Elliot text me again from holiday today to see if I’ve heard anything about what’s happening, what a joke

I've always said I'm happy to give new owners the benefit of the doubt right at the start and "give them a chance". I've done it with every one of them so far. But each time new owners come in, they end up on thinner and thinner ice, purely because of what's come before them and through no fault of their own.

So these new people if they do indeed complete the takeover start on ice that is pretty much already making cracking noises thanks to Hood, Khan, Green & Chalmers. The fact they're throwing a fans' forum before they've even completed a takeover, and saying they're going to talk to fans without having spoken to employees yet, doesn't fill me with confidence. Anyone employed by the club, from the head coach to the captain of the first team to the ever loved tea lady, should be having regular communication as to the status of their livelihoods and the status of any monies they are owed. Sure, we fans want to know what's happening, but frankly we're not as important as the people employed by the club. When someone of a pretty high status within those employees is completely in the dark, it doesn't really give a lot of hope.

Fingers are crossed for all the staff right now whose ability to pay their bills may depend on the decisions made.

Apart from the reference lumping in Omar with the others, which is unfair, I couldn't agree more.

In fairness, with Omar I never thought of him as crooked. Just massively out of his depth. I know he was screwed over in various things, but I don't think he was ever really up to the job. But I don't hold the same disdain towards him as I do other individuals, so yeah maybe it's fair point that he shouldn't be in with them. I really just included him because it was another failed effort that made people that bit more sceptical.

Ha. I wondered who that was

Happy to.

1) Re Chalmers 'pot of money' - AC had no meaningful money to invest. Lowe c/o the NZ based Orcas Rugby League Limited was just a transitional figurehead.

We are aware that most (if not all) of the money came (and we feel we don't even need to add 'alleged' to this observation) from ..... yes you guessed it .. the RFL.

Because of the failure of BBNL in circa 11/16 the HMRC (who lost hundreds of thousand due to Green and got BBNL wound up - c/o a WUP) would rightfully not deal with Chalmers (who was in reality lined up to takeover the Bulls in mid 2016). The HMRC needed some form of guarantor because AC had no meaningful UK track record (other than dabbling with Salford), and no meaningful cash. Spin is not cash.

Anyhow, a sum of circa at least £300-£400K was we understand stumped up by the RFL to the HMRC as a bond/guarantee to cover the HMRC in the event of yet another Bulls failure. Also the banks wouldn't deal with the toxic brand that had become the Bulls, and thus the club had for quite a while to use the, or a, RFL bank account to trade.

How kind that was of the RFL. That said, it probably helped that AC was (and we believe still is) a close friend of the RFL's former Chief Exec. We also understand the RFL 'loaned' the club circa £350K, but we have no proof of any such transfer of funds.

We are confident that no other prospective owner would have been treated so favourably, nor any other club. That may in part explain why some other clubs don't 'like' us.

Fact is that a certain David Thorne should have taken over the club and if he had done we would now most likely be in good, if not very good, shape. Thorne had major backers and an excellent back history of rugby club turnarounds ([ibetter also - allegedly - than CB[/i). Why even the BBNL administrator, the unfairly maligned Gary Petit, vehemently recommended to the RFL that Thorne get our club. The RFL in effect ignored Gary's recommendation; they had we firmly believe (and we have evidence to affirm the same) already chosen the man who was to succeed Green a few months prior to throwing BBNL under a bus, i.e. AC. Why was that ? We and others know, but at this time cannot reveal why in a public forum; it can hopefully wait for a court hearing.

2) Duffy - only a short answer necessary. We have been repeatedly informed that he may have some 'dirt' on a certain high ranking person. Regardless of Stuart's apparent shortcomings (inc as you say 'player welfare' etc), and the fact that most of the players appear to ignore him, he still stays in post. No owner in their right mind would continue to employ such an allegedly spent force, and in particular businesses that are heavily in debt, as have been the Bulls for many years and through successive owner incarnations. We are aware that Duffy slagged off the aforementioned David Thorne's well meaning and well founded interest in the club, and we are told that Stuart went out of his way to spread malicious dirt around about Thorne - is SD a(nother) puppet?.

Maybe somebody should ask CB tomorrow eve and on Wed eve what added value Duffy has added to the club in recent years, and is Stuart to be a key/central figure in the club's rebirth (as CB would like to have us believe) moving forward?

Also you may want to ask CB who is Mark Wallace; what role will he play in the club, and is he related to Shane Spencer, formerly of the genuinely maligned Austria-Holdings UK Ltd? Mark W does after all bear a remarkable resemblance to Shane.

We are advised that the above is the best that we can do for now. Hope that helps RichardPLan .

Well im going to have to say im done with this forum.

I feel completely let down buy the moderators on this page.
Its clear to eveyone there is one clown on this page whos sole focus is to stir trouble and cause unrest yet the mods are continuing to let this happen.

Us supporters are doing it tough again and we want answers not more runour and lies which is what this person is causing. In all honesty i think the mods are just as bad as the one individual on here for letting this vitrol continue.

Ive had enough. I feel ive been driven away, which is a shame as ive grown to enjoy interacting with people on this page.

With that ill bid you all fairwell and live in hope we still have a club to watch next season.

Have you fixed your glasses pal?

To be fair with the amount of owners we’ve had it’s easier to forget the circumstances or even the owners themselves.....

I completely forgot about Moore / Calvert until somebody mentioned them the other day!

Pl Bull M, refrain from such utterances.

We have previously and openly confirmed that Belcki is part of Nestegg's consortium. We have never had anything to do with a member called UnbelievaBULL.

We have not caused genuine and any meaningful distress to poor Roger D; the club did. We feel for Roger and his son.

If for whatever reason you are fed up with us then ignore us.

Don’t call me poor, you can change the word poor to raging.
Stop with all your “in the know” . Everyone knows who you are and your lies and agendas are really 1ng people off. Do you never learn??
I’ve been asked lots of things about you today from lots of people and I will keep on telling the truth till you have shut up

All joking aside I agree with what he said 100%.

You and Elliot deserve better than this and unless the new owners make good on what's owed to the players and staff I won't be going anywhere near the place. I don't want to be associated with that.

I think it stinks when people are left in limbo like this.

As for whoever this nestegg creep is I don't want to know who it is because what they are doing is perverse.

As you are in fact aware you don't know who 'we' are, and nor will you or anybody in the short term. We admit that when we contacted you - as per your request to do so - we had to protect our identity so (and until we met) we had to spin you a yarn. For that we profusely apologise, but we have been advised to protect ourselves. That's not some ludicrous conspiracy; that's a fact.

We've been asked by the mods to be respectful towards you and we will - as we always have done- abide by that request.

As has been said by many; it's the club that has made you furious; not us. In your eyes, we may not be helping; we do of course respect your opinion in that regard.

Thank you.