In what way is a description of their ethnicity 'playing a card' considering he also says he 'doesn't a trust a word' and is 'suspicious'. Is Tasker a liar?

If, the 'suspicion' is that Guilfoyle is preffering certain bidders over others then I am reliably informed it is a suspicion shared by Martyn Sadler, Tony Hannan (40/20), Dave Craven and senior people within the RFL. I have a lot of time for Sadler and would feel he would not easily be fed BS by kiteflyers. It also shared by a number of long standing posters on this forum.

And yet, between them they have not got anyone to go on record and say 'I am ****** ***** and I want to buy the Bulls'. If there is a conspiracy, why can't the most important RL journalists in the land supported by the governing body bring it into the open rather than making sly digs on a blog about a bloke with a good track record in the game?

3. ABC would like a surrender and renewal with the council on the long lease to completely change the user clause e.g. from a sporting stadium to a distribution centre etc.


On a side note if the RFL are intent that RL in Bradford continues out of Odsal why not have the following structure;

Bradford Council
}
RFL (new 999 year lease with any small amendments as per ABC's request)
}
ABC (99 year lease from RFL at peppercorn rent costing approx. £1.25m)

This way the RFL get there money back and will always have a say over what happens at Odsal plus ABC have their asset. However, if it is ABC's intention to do the 3rd senario above this obviously won't be an option.

I absolutely agree with this

I'm getting tired of hearing these constant comments, rumours and suggestions - on Twitter, Facebook and this very forum - that there are various other people who are wanting to buy the Bulls and are being denied by some complex ploy involving Brendan Guilfoyle (and possibly Chris Caisley and/or Gary Tasker)

Let's have something out in the open and unequivocal. I'd love nothing more than to see these 'other people' making their intentions known, presumably followed by Guilfoyle being hauled off in chains to be dragged before his professional body. I mean, its not as if there isn't an easy way to do it - the media is greedy for stories about the Bulls at the moment.

Basically, its time for these 'other people' to put up or shut up

I would say it's well past time. Their chance of being taken seriously has been and gone. If they existed and they had any fight about them they would have fought.

Tbf, I think the Plymouth fans warned about something similar happening with them, difference being (I think) the alternative bidder(s) were known.


Agree 100%.

FWIW, Elima reporting that they did get paid.

If ABC really are looking at Option 3, presumably they would have to do the deal and take their chances that the Council would subsequently agree to the change? It wouldn't be possible for them to obtain approval from the Council before 27th July?

I have noticed that a few times. Something along the line of "This deal is the best for the city of bradford..."

Which would be why I suggested no such outrageous thing. Don't forget that in past times the arrangements between Northern and the Council were not the same as now. Previous plans for example included the Council potentially saving millions by getting out of their Richard Dunn white elephant. The plans were hardly for the Council to provide a stadium for the Bulls, both parties had legal rights and responsibilities, anything the Council did would have had to be legal, be of benefit to the Bradford ratepayers, not just the club. It is just that the interests of the Council, ratepayers and the club in very many major financial respects coincided. For the most recent example, OSV.


Without a doubt, the Tesco scheme which so nearly came off, but was scuppered, would have been a financial result for the district's ratepayers, of some magnitude.

However you are actually saying that the procession of grand designs regularly paraded by the Council through the T&A for decades stood no realistic chance. Any of them. If that is true, then why did they do it? WHY was the Council publishing these plans? Yes, obviously, they have no duty to build a ground for a private club, so you tell me? Or are you suggesting the Council had forgotten that they couldn't spend money like this, so all the schemes were commissioned and published as some sort of mistake? Or they knew there was "no realistic chance" yet squandered millions of ratepayers' money - for what?

anyone read the small clip on page 62 of the sun.......Fev / Fax / Bradford ....???????

What was the gist of it for those of us who don't read The Sun?

The RFL could have transferred the funds for same day value to Bulls.

The Bulls could in turn have made next-day or even same-day electronic payments to the players (I just paid a supplier pro-forma electronically a few mins ago, and within five mins had confirmation that the funds had been received for value). No real reason nowdays why you can't get same-day value to someone if you need to and are funded to.

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Your a great one for reading meanings into posts that aren't there. Since the start of civilisations politicians of all shapes, colours and parties have been great ones for "Grand Designs" and "Prestige projects" but even with all the related development and uses proposed for the rest of the Odsal site which would have funded the stadium the majority of the "Superdome" and "Wembley of the North" plans all seemed to include stadiums big enough to accommodate several times the largest crowd we have entertained in the Super league - so no I don't think most of these plans actually were realistic, and if by some chance one of them has succeeded we would consider the current and infamous "Odsal running" costs to be a mere drop in the ocean

Correct. nobody has been paid.

Not really sure why they can't just go back to the same simple expedient which was part of the Odsal settlement in 2000. This, the fact that if the club don't play a large majority of games at the ground, a large sum is payable to the council, is still current until 2019, I believe.

If a similar condition, for a similar or even longer period, were to be included in any deal with the new owners, it would still allow developments, either commercial or rugby related to take place on the ground but would effectively stymie any deal which forced the team away from Odsal. It may also be sufficient for the RFL to sell back the primary lease, hopefully reducing the rent to be paid. I would have been happy with a Tesco near the ground with the superdome scheme so why be unhappy about commercial activity by the owners? I accept that it isn't a cast iron guarantee but how may property developers are going to wait 25 or 30 years to get the fruits of their investment?

Main caveat for myself is just who is involved in ABC. I have been assuming the council and RFL do, but do they?

Did I read somewhere that the consortium would announce today that they would or wouldnt bid for the club. I know in principlenthey have by the looks of things but issues highlighted days ago do not appear to have been resolved, whats the next step?

There was a suggestion that they would know by the end of this week. Not convinced they do myself.

Update just paid.

they said today would be earliest possible date they could complete due diligence and formalise a bid IIRC.

No, I'm not. First of all you accuse me of making what would be a ludicrous suggestion:

Anyone reading that reply would assume I made such a suggestion, and of course I never did.

Now, when I point out I never said any such thing, you cast another random aspersion, not only that I read into the above a meaning that isn't there (when it 100% is) but that I'm a "great one" for doing this, i.e. I do it frequently!

I don't intend to say any more about it, but would appreciate it if you didn't accuse me of inventing things.

Please forgive me if this is posted elsewhere but just found time to login and haven't been able to trawl a days worth of posts:

Tasker, Potter, Guilfoyle and HOOD met @ Odsal this morning. The "plot" thickens?

why not?
Get all the actors into an ensemble piece worthy of a Hollywood film with a cast of '000s
"A magnificent sprawling tale of intrigue, incompetency and powerbroking set in a northern village in england against the background of the threat to their much loved local team, and how it was brought down by people who they trusted "
"Thrill as the story unfolds the riches to rags heartache of the disillusioned inhabitants and how each tried to cope with their own sense of being betrayed."
"The painful drama they suffer through, crisis, suspense, financial intrigue, conspiracy theory, board room in-fighting, shadowy white knights, and evil wizards are tempered by lighter moments of rollicking comedy. When the Administrator says that he was incompetent in reading all his his messages is a screen gem."
"Sub plots abound, especially historic ones, which really draws the viewer into the maze of frustration and desperation that those plucky village supporters must have felt"

The end, of course, has yet to be written...........