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| I can't believe people still have the energy to continue to go over the same arguments over and over. It has become obsessive in some cases, get a grip!
I expect if we lose a match in the first couple of weeks we can expect a whole new campaign with a brand spanking new poll. I expect it will be the first highlight of the year for some.
It's a new season ahead and whilst I still think we're lacking in certain crucial area's, I do feel we should improve from last year. We're obviously short of a top quality centre, however we're not the only club who has been unable to recruit here, both Leeds and Saints are currently in the hunt too.
I think the key for the Bulls this year is to try improve the consistency week in week out. We need to limit our poor games at Odsal because I fear this year's crowds will have taken another dip. Hopefully some of the pub bar stool and armchair stay away fans will then begin to get behind the team a little. If the crowds dwindle.. we can be sure that the quality on the pitch will continue to also.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I can't believe people still have the energy to continue to go over the same arguments over and over. It has become obsessive in some cases, get a grip!
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Considering it is being posted on the McNamara thread, what else were you expecting to see? After all, all talk about the great man has been condensed to this thread so if you don't want to read about it then it is pretty easy for you to stay away from the thread?
Unless, of course, you just thought it would be a good excuse to come on and have a pop for no apparent reason?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Considering it is being posted on the McNamara thread, what else were you expecting to see? After all, all talk about the great man has been condensed to this thread so if you don't want to read about it then it is pretty easy for you to stay away from the thread?
Unless, of course, you just thought it would be a good excuse to come on and have a pop for no apparent reason?'"
Yeah, that'd be like having a pop without offering any alternative. How empty headed is that?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Considering it is being posted on the McNamara thread, what else were you expecting to see? After all, all talk about the great man has been condensed to this thread so if you don't want to read about it then it is pretty easy for you to stay away from the thread? '"
I don't have a problem reading it.. I am just amazed that a few on here are still carrying it on though. You're all either pretty stubborn and unable to just let things lie or incredibly dull! Perhaps we just need the new season to arrive so we can analyse McNamara's failings or indeed improvement on a match by match basis (I can barely wait!).
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Unless, of course, you just thought it would be a good excuse to come on and have a pop for no apparent reason?'"
At you personally? No my 'pop' was at more than just yourself. Although admittedly I disagree with a lot of your view points or certainly to in my opinion the extremes you take them too. But you're entitled to air those views in the same way I aired my views on this very thread.
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| Quote ="af"Yeah, Ellery would give us the stability we need. Also, John Monie won the title the year before and now he's been sacked by France he's probably available, perhaps we should go for him.'"
Maybe we should, after all what has McNamara done as a coach to suggest he's a better option than Monie?
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| Maybe he is just cheaper?
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| Quote ="Asim"Maybe we should, after all what has McNamara done as a coach to suggest he's a better option than Monie?'"
Monie's far too old skool! His days in charge at a top RL club are behind him!
Now if he could come in as a assistant to Mcnamara!
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| Quote ="Asim"Maybe we should, after all what has McNamara done as a coach to suggest he's a better option than Peter Fox?'"
Good point. Bring him back (again).
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| Quote ="af"Good point. Bring him back (again).'"
Don't be silly, Fox is from those Northern days that were oh so terrible - after those we should just now be grateful for whatever we have to put up with.
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| 3rd, 2nd, 7th (haven't counted the near-relgation season where he took over halfway through) - not massively dissimilar to the last three years.
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| Quote ="af"3rd, 2nd, 7th (haven't counted the near-relgation season where he took over halfway through) - not massively dissimilar to the last three years.'"
If you are seriously suggesting Foxy as a potential alternative to McNamara then you've missed a couple of achievements out.
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| Quote ="Asim"If you are seriously suggesting Foxy as a potential alternative to McNamara then you've missed a couple of achievements out.'"
I was talking about 90s Foxy, but you're right, early 80s Foxy deserves consideration too.
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| Quote ="6Iestyn6"Shaun McRae'"
Cracking bloke but it doesn't win you matches. He'll be lucky to see out the season at Salford.
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| Well I know I am one of Macca's more 'vocal' detracters but a line has to be drawn somewhere and I for one think we should stop judging him on past performances and give him a clean slate for next season.
Perhaps Mr. Mystic would agree to be gagged on this matter until ten games in when we cann have a moratorium (and a poll of course) to see where he's taking the team
Of course the McBanana will stay in my sig for comic effect but I am also hoping it will be an inspiration to Steve, Semi, Solo and Nero in the coming months. Of course I will be happy to change verses when things start to take a turn for the better.
We have to ask ourselves what expectations we have going onto next season to judge Macca against first though. Even Eddie will agree that silverware is unrealistic so what would people class as success for us next season For mine a valiant CC semi final exit, top 4 finish and winning at least one game in the play-offs would be a step in the right direction and enough to show McBanana is learning Oh, and at least 1 win over Leeds would be good, also teams like Wigoon and Saints too
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| Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"
We have to ask ourselves what expectations we have going onto next season to judge Macca against first though. Even Eddie will agree that silverware is unrealistic so what would people class as success for us next season icon_confused.gif: For mine a valiant CC semi final exit, top 4 finish and winning at least one game in the play-offs would be a step in the right direction and enough to show McBanana is learning icon_smile.gif Oh, and at least 1 win over Leeds would be good, also teams like Wigoon and Saints too k020.gif'"
I dont think we'll win anything so performance will be the thing for me. Some definite sign of progression. Competitive matches against Leeds & St Helens. A couple more of the younger players coming through.
3rd place would be decent but that would depend on whether Warry & Wigan can fulfill their potential and Catalans maintain their progress. I doubt if Hull will be as bad this year.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"I dont think we'll win anything so performance will be the thing for me. Some definite sign of progression. Competitive matches against Leeds & St Helens. A couple more of the younger players coming through.'"
Same here. If we manage that I'll be happy things are heading in the right direction. Silverware is beyond us this year IMO.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Same here. If we manage that I'll be happy things are heading in the right direction. Silverware is beyond us this year IMO.'"
I would like to think the CC is a possibility.
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| Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"I would like to think the CC is a possibility.'"
depends how they rig the draw this year
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| The Bulls have got to be more competitive against the bigger sides this year to show progress ... I had this horrible feeling of an inevitable loss very time we played Leeds or Saints last year ... it would be nice to believe we can win a (few?) big games - that to me would be progress.
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| Quote ="Bulldozer"The Bulls have got to be more competitive against the bigger sides this year to show progress ... I had this horrible feeling of an inevitable loss very time we played Leeds or Saints last year ... it would be nice to believe we can win a (few?) big games - that to me would be progress.'"
It's only one season ago that we had one thumping win, one draw, a narrow defeat and a Ganson-Klein production against Leeds. Over due a win against them at Odsal, mind.
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| Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"
Of course the McBanana will stay in my sig for comic effect but I am also hoping it will be an inspiration to Steve, Semi, Solo and Nero in the coming months. Of course I will be happy to change verses when things start to take a turn for the better. :'"
If you honestly believe that these people read what you think, then it's time for the looney bin I think
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| Quote ="af"It's only one season ago that we had one thumping win, one draw, a narrow defeat and a Ganson-Klein production against Leeds. Over due a win against them at Odsal, mind.'" IMO that perfectly illustrates that as a club we've gone backwards.
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| Quote ="redeverready"IMO that perfectly illustrates that as a club we've gone backwards.'"
Does that mean we went forwards in 2007 then?
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| Quote ="af"It's only one season ago that we had one thumping win, one draw, a narrow defeat and a Ganson-Klein production against Leeds. Over due a win against them at Odsal, mind.'"
Yes and put that in context - how many times have we played Leeds or Saints in the past 3 years ... I'm no stato but I think it's about 16 times and I can only recall 3 wins.
All I was saying is that for me to have confidence in what the coach is achieving at the Bulls I'd like to feel more confident when we come up against these 2 rivals
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