I agree that there are unlikely to be 'transfer fees' for many of the players left

We can presumably make cost savings by 'getting people off the wage bill'. For example if a player is paid £2000 per month (as an example) and is offloaded to someone (i.e they take over his contract), then the club can presumably go to a creditor and offer them a monthly payment of £2000 until their debit is cleared. Is that how it will work?

If so, then it might be feasible to deal with many creditors by getting rid of players, and then having a slimmer squad bolstered by DR. I guess that's what Kear meant when he said at the forum about players leaving and having a smaller squad.

Do we know who the creditors are?

Gledhill saying he has had it confirmed that the largest creditor has been paid off this afternoon.

Another leaver - may be old news, but now our timekeeper of circa 40yrs of service has walked out due to apparent contempt for what the Wood/Sawyer consortium are up to.

Waiting for 4pm.

Do we know who the creditors are?

Gledhill saying he has had it confirmed that the largest creditor has been paid off this afternoon.

As said before it is being claimed that AC is the biggest creditor.

And again as said previously we do NOT believe that can be the case and is an act of mere accounting chicanery.

The more interesting question is other than the following four known major creditors:

a) Yorkshire Water,
b) Electricity supplier
c) ISC - former shirt supplier, and
d) Group of former senior staff/self employed consultants ....

... who (with the exception of the Chalmers bogus debt) were the remaining TWO of the top six creditors by outstanding debt value as of of 730pm on Tuesday 23 October 2019? If Sawyer / Wood were to be honest with their answer to the above fair and reasonable query then a small proportion of our legitimate misgivings re the Wood/Sawyer consortium may be set aside.

We know that if such two major creditor names as of 23/10/19 are disclosed to the public then that will definitely open yet another new massive can of worms.

For the record we reiterate that:

i) We are not deluded conspiracy theorists who have noting better to do with our lives;
ii) We don't want the new consortium to fail;
iii) We for the main part do not give two hoots what certain forum members think of us ([ithe likes of Dr Feelbad, drivelbul et al are respectfully NOT our target audience[/i), and
iv) After 7 years of poop we simply want what's best for our great club.

And you're saying that there are 2 more major creditors not accounted for that are part of your group of collective minds?

Would you care to share how you know all this information, if not please go away.

Yes. Fancy taking a guess who they are?

BTW the Electricity Company's debt has we understand been addressed (but doubtless not repaid in full). That is we admit positive news, but the interesting point is that moving forward that company have confirmed that they will never deal with BB17 ever again, BUT will deal with the alternative (nestegg) consortium given the scale of our financial backing.

At this stage we trust you will all appreciate that we don't have to inform an anonymous forum of our financial clout.

Rather odd the club has just made 2 full -time signings in these times of austerity..perhaps its just to give the full-time 50k+ year coach something to do in the afternoons.

Ahhh of course. We all know that’s how debt collection works. Any random bloke (or box of eggs) can ask about someone else’s outstanding balance and then offer to take over the account hypothetically in the future. Financial clout or not (definitely not). The game is over and the club has been transferred. Whatever you think is the reasoning for remaining anonymous and giving generic information is no longer relevant. As has been said before, put up or shut up. I don’t think you understand the sport or this great club if you think alienating fans would be fine because there’s others available. I’ve survived every administration and as much as I don’t trust it I’ll be here for the new owners but forget ever following a club that had an owner like you.

(Just to clarify this is all hypothetical because I have no doubt that you have nothing better to be doing with your time because not a chance in hell youre a rich backer consortium looking to take over a debt ridden club through an unofficial forum)

Hape, being "here for the new owners" is not supporting the club; it's supporting the new owners who may well have the worst of intentions for our club. Supporting the club may well be taking a stance against the new owners. Are you sure you, blindly, want to be "here for the new owners"?

Well said PJ.

To be fair I'm sure if (or when) we take over the club we will be able to prosper with or without the likes of Hape and Dr Feelybad etc.

If they don't like us they will doubtless be welcome at Trinity; they sure need more fans.

What’s the alternative? Hate to say it but if we all take a Spartacus stand against the club and prove a point the result is the club ceases to exist. There’s zero chance wood and Duffy aren’t up to something and there’s secret agendas all over the place but this is my club and there’s no alternative for the sport and club I love. I didn’t want to support another consortium but that’s what’s there if I want to support the club And sport I’ve dedicated my life to I have to support the consortium that’s there now.

Suppose we can all sit back and say I told you so but we’ve all done that in previous admins and we’re all still here, but what I won’t accept is a group of people intentionally trying to agitate whilst the community around this club suffers. The sale has happened and if they want to be involved then they should get their substantial imaginary wallet out and put a bid in to the creditors when it bleeding mattered 2 weeks ago. Rant over, I knew I shouldn’t have risen to the eggs but this inflation of the debts doesn’t help anyone until it can be confirmed. Solid facts or nowt

Answer me this, whilst you’re contacting creditors and hiding in the shadows with your imaginary consortium, why didn’t you put a public bid in and force the rfls hand? Is it because you:
A) are full of bulls hit?
B) we’re looking for a club that went bankrupt so you could pick the bones yourself?
C) it’s definitely A

But Hape, you could rewind your I'm "here for the new owners" quote back two years and apply it to Chalmers. Or further back to Green. Both of those have shown themselves to be unfit owners of the club. I posted some of questions on FA's "Goodnight Irene" thread. If you can answer any of them satisfactorily, I'd be surprised. Personally I will support a Bulls Club as small as it needs be that is owned and run by trustworthy people who have the club and the city of Bradford at it's heart. There is nothing in the current consortium and the way it has been carved up with the many unanswered questions behind them that gives me confidence to believe they are the owners I want. So I won't be "here for them" until they have demonstrated they are fit and proper owners. Best wishes to you.

You’re pretty hung up on the here for them comment. I’m not going to be making them tea but if you don’t support the club because of the owners the club fails. Up to you but I’d say that’s supporting the club more than letting it fail and come back. I’ve been burned before and this lot will do it again I have no doubt but for now we survive and fight on

As this is who is leaving thread, Flanagan isn't - signed up for next season

Apologies, I got derailed because a lot of this” I know something you don’t know” is getting annoying and damaging.

As for George, I know he splits opinion and he does some VERY stupid things but a player like him is needed when you’re relying on young players in the championship as we may well end up doing. I.e. a bit of old school biff to protect them

Totally agree, just needs to use his noggin a bit sometimes!

Perhaps not his noggin as that would attract another ban!!

now if there was something between the ears.....but good news I think.

Look mate, may be just point out the following:

If you had taken in what we have been saying time and time and time and time and time and time again, the RFL are the #1 problem.

As things stand we would not launch a bid to force the RFL's hand (as you put it) . Why?

Because they (i.e. the Rugby Football Limpets) first need root and branch reform and new blood themselves. The process relating thereto is complicated, but the wheels are in motion, albeit NOT in public view.

Thereafter, we will be stepping in, and hopefully there is still something left to 'acquire'.

If, however, you'd prefer to ignore us then do so. We would not lose any sleep over it.

[size=85BTW [/size- [i[size=85 You (and we) are putting these posts in a thread which refers to 'who is leaving'. The posts should have been cited in the Takeover thread and for that we should both apologise for temporarily hijacking this excellent thread. [/size[/i

Try the ownership thread for this

I’ve already apologised mind so we just wait for one of yours again

Unfortunately the first thing I thought of too. He can be a difference maker in some games when he’s off the bench

And Hallas isn't leaving either! Good news!