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What is Green's RL background?
Is he from Bradford? Is he a long time fan? Has he ever been involved in RL before? Does he have good knowledge of the game or is he totally reliant on Ferres and Lowes for advice?
I don't really know anything about the bloke.
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Bradford still have quality players. The "COMMUNICATION" as Brian and even James has alluded to is someway to fixing the problems.
James Lowes is quite rightly recognised as a club legend. However, much like Kevin Keegan as England manager he was too emotional, his balance of Logic and emotion was out of kilt. I think James is in that hole. The other problem possibly is that everyone is unique and James maybe cannot understand why his messages and direction are not getting through. The communication has to evolve through a culture where everyone is involved so that they understand. Emotional messages are very powerful but short lived. Logic is what will carry some permanent development. I do not think great coaches are "Loved" but have gained respect without question.
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Marc Green should make a business decision and show Ferris the door, he has become a liability now and is holding back the Clubs progress and Green does not owe him a duty of loyalty! A new CEO with SL experience will certainly freshen things up and indirectly improve the attitude of the Team and possibly on field performances!
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As to who is Marc Green. I have been to almost all meetings where Marc Green has spoken and it seems to me that he is a businessman who is trying to run the Bull as as a business i.e Income exceeds expenditure or at least expenditure doesn't exceed income. So my guess would be that he relies on both Ferres and Lowes for his RL knowledge.
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I suspect Robbie over Lowes, but otherwise I don't think there's any doubt about that at all.
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| Quote ="Blotto"Marc Green should make a business decision and show Ferris the door, he has become a liability now and is holding back the Clubs progress and Green does not owe him a duty of loyalty! A new CEO with SL experience will certainly freshen things up and indirectly improve the attitude of the Team and possibly on field performances!'"
Quite agree. Is it Ferres or the board as a whole who spectacularly under estimate the strength of feeling amongst spectators. Perhaps if they were willing to engage in a fans forum a bit more regularly then they'd get a clearer idea of our thoughts.
Ferres has to take a lot of responsibility for this, he employed Lowes, he's seemingly in overall charge of recruitment and he's doing a cracking job of p1ssing off the loyal fans that are left.
I'm still not convinced the club are even taking the 23 games that seriously, I've lost all enthusiasm for the matches at the moment. If my season ticket wasn't paid for, I certainly wouldn't be paying £22 walk up prices to watch the current shambles. The club are actually take the p!ss a little charging those prices when we don't even have a scrum half at the club. |
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2"There's a huge difference between being able to change things by actions on the field as Jimmy used to do and being an articulate,inspirational,smart,shrewd talker/motivator of men a la Peter Fox.Jimmy has proven that he hasn't the nowse to be a top head coach imo and the sooner changes are made the better,because no changes made will see things stay exactly the same and the abyss awaits in that case.
Come on be brave and take the BULL by the HORNS.
I would take Brian Smith above =#FF0000Rowley/Morrisson as they are not proven as off field leaders/motivators and we could be in exactly the same place as we are now imo.Just my view.'"
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I've never known a fan base like it. They will blame anyone bar the head coach with McCluless it was Basil's fault, Cummins it was a crap squad and now Lowes it's Ferres fault.
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| Quote ="redeverready"I've never known a fan base like it. They will blame anyone bar the head coach with McCluless it was Basil's fault, Cummins it was a crap squad and now Lowes it's Ferres fault.'"
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I was pretty despondent after the MPG because first, we should have won it, second if Addy's conversion had been good we WOULD have won it, third because we came so close despite a mystifying squad selection and the terrible luck of a still-nowhere-near-fit Gaskell.
I was despondent because if we couldn't beat a Wakefield in such disarray, then no better opportunity would likely come again.
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Firstly you COULD and not would have beaten Wakefield but you didn't, secondly even IF Addy's conversion had been good, on the basis that you never scored another point yet we did how do you come to the conclusion that you WOULD have won it, thirdly you were nowhere near close, you were always playing catch up to a poor Wakefield side and you can feel sorry for yourself all you want and blame James Lowes all you want for his team selection but in reality you just wasn't good enough and you need to realise this and move on because you can if and but all you want, it won't alter anything and not to put too finer point on it, on this seasons performances you can't even hold your own in the second tier of rugby, god help you if by some fluke you had managed to get into SL you would have been a bigger embarrassment than we were. |
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Are they rationing full stops in Wakefield these days?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Firstly you COULD and not would have beaten Wakefield but you didn't, secondly even IF Addy's conversion had been good, on the basis that you never scored another point yet we did how do you come to the conclusion that you WOULD have won it, thirdly you were nowhere near close, you were always playing catch up to a poor Wakefield side and you can feel sorry for yourself all you want and blame James Lowes all you want for his team selection but in reality you just wasn't good enough and you need to realise this and move on because you can if and but all you want, it won't alter anything and not to put too finer point on it, on this seasons performances you can't even hold your own in the second tier of rugby, god help you if by some fluke you had managed to get into SL you would have been a bigger embarrassment than we were.'"
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| Quote ="jockabull"Are they rationing full stops in Wakefield these days?'"
Apologies Taggart, the lack of full stops were simply to eliminate any confusion by the mentally challenged. HTH |
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| Quote ="chissitt"Apologies Taggart, the lack of full stops were simply to eliminate any confusion by the mentally challenged. HTH'"
[urlhttp://www.idiotsguides.com/education/grammar-and-punctuation/how-to-use-common-punctuation-marks/[/url
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| Quote ="chissitt"Firstly you COULD and not would have beaten Wakefield but you didn't, secondly even IF Addy's conversion had been good, on the basis that you never scored another point yet we did how do you come to the conclusion that you WOULD have won it, thirdly you were nowhere near close, you were always playing catch up to a poor Wakefield side '"
Nonsense we would have deffo won it and you know it, stop making rubbish up
Quote ="chissitt"and you can feel sorry for yourself all you want'"
Sorry? When did i say i feel sorry for myself? What a stupid thing to put!
Quote ="chissitt" and blame James Lowes all you want for his team selection but in reality you just wasn't good enough'"
If you don't actually read my points, that'll be the reason you don't understand them, and in turn why you type nonsense in reply.
Quote ="chissitt" and you need to realise this and move on '"
"Move on"? FFS! 
So, you think I'm still at Wakefield? Tied to a barrier or something?
Quote ="chissitt"because you can if and but all you want, it won't alter anything '"
Won't it? Really? You mean, if I post things in 2016 on this forum ... it won't change what happened in 2015?
Really? Wow. Who'd have thunk it?
Well, er, thanks for pointing that out. Phew! We'd never have known. How insightful you are!
Quote ="chissitt"and not to put too finer point on it, on this seasons performances you can't even hold your own in the second tier of rugby..'"
It's "too fine a point". Learn English. We [iare[/i "holding our own", as shoite as we comparatively are. The trouble is that "holding your own" in the Championship - i.e. mid-table mediocrity - is a complete waste of time and a route to oblivion. But we hardly need your garbled drivel to tell us that. |
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HTH'"
Wow, I bet the nights fly by in your house Taggart 
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Nonsense we would have deffo won it and you know it, stop making rubbish up'"
 Aw bless course you would if you say so
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark" It's "too fine a point". Learn English. We [iare[/i "holding our own", as shoite as we comparatively are. The trouble is that "holding your own" in the Championship - i.e. mid-table mediocrity - is a complete waste of time and a route to oblivion. But we hardly need your garbled drivel to tell us that.'"
 I'm really glad you agree with me on this.
The word deffo is that your definition of Learn English, have a word with yourself
Btw apologies for deleting all the other she!!te from your post when you replied to my unbiased observation regarding where you go from here, and despite your childish hostility towards me I hope your club can see through your present problems.
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| Quote ="chissitt"icon_eek.gif Well that's a first, being lectured on the English language by somebody from Manchestaar
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OK, chissitt, sit down... This may blow your mind, but you can live in one city and hail from another! |
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| Quote ="josefw"OK, chissitt, sit down... This may blow your mind, but you can live in one city and hail from another!'"
Well I would never have guessed that
Did you go to live in Manchestaar to study the English language at university, or to get away from Bradford and it's ailing rugby club or was it simply the weather |
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I was pretty despondent after the MPG because first, we should have won it, second if Addy's conversion had been good we WOULD have won it, third because we came so close despite a mystifying squad selection and the terrible luck of a still-nowhere-near-fit Gaskell.
I was despondent because if we couldn't beat a Wakefield in such disarray, then no better opportunity would likely come again.
But, I stumped up for my £380 season ticket expecting that the squad having had a year to get to know each other, plus one or two decent improvements, would again make a good fist of the season, even if it seemed unlikely we could win the MPG. I reasoned that there was chance, however slim, that we could finish in an automatic promotion spot. And it was slim, but it could be done, if we were better, trampled everyone all season and peaked at the right time, and managed to win against a SL team that also dropped other points, I could see a way.
Unfortunately our recruitment has been baffling and shambolic, and anybody who has watched the games knows that these players are not properly coached, and come on to the field somehow with a huge inferiority complex, and a tender constitution, and as soon as things go wrong, they panic and we can't find a way out.
Even the coach knows he's not coaching them properly - he keeps saying so. He says its his job and he is failing. But why is he still in it, then? I mean, what signs are there that despite our descent into a frankly joke side, he has the ability to turn us into victors over SL clubs in the playoffs? (and how daft does THAT idea sound?!?)
I don't understand Green. I understand loyalty but this isn't about that, this is about a team which is totally lost, and a "coach" who repeatedly admits he has no clue what to do to make things better. And a club that thinks we don't need a scrum half.
But my main concern is the universal bad feeling and bad taste of all present at recent games, especially after Sheffield. Green underestimates the fans. There is only so much shiit you can take before it sticks in your throat and I think the limit is now being reached. People feel as if they have been sold a pup, and that there is zero sign of anybody doing anything about it. The players seemingly love Lowes, Lowes loves them, and Green and Ferres love both, and so we are apparently doomed to do nothing, and to play like this all season, and to finish somewhere in the lower reaches of the Championship, and thereafter to die a slow and lingering death as crowds disappear, money dries up, and we become the club that once used to be Bradford.
It is all a bitter pill, but it needs something major to change and fast - but all the signs are that NOTHING will be changing any time soon, if at all.
Is that all there is?
It appears so.'"
Very well summed up and difficult to disagree with any of it.
I walked away on Sunday thinking there is no chance I'm spending £20 (or however much a ticket and petrol is) to go to Dewsbury on Sunday to watch this crap again. I've supported through thick and thin but there gets to a point where you don't want to give up your Sunday afternoon and hard earned money that could be spent elsewhere, to go and be depressed for 2 hours. You wouldn't do that in any other aspect of life, so why would you do it for sport?
That being said, the later it gets in the week, the more I become like a previous poster. That completely illogical thought starts to come into your mind of "Ah, but maybe we'll be better, I'll go anyway". It's got no basis whatsoever, I fully expect in reality I'm going to be weed off again on Sunday, but I also think I'll inevitably end up going again despite not really wanting to. |
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Did we detect the first signs of humility from James Lowes in his post-match comments? That would be a start but sadly nowhere near what's required. I'm impressed by Daryl Powell and his approach at Castleford when they lose - frank but at the same always positive about improving and moving on. I imagine Jimmy behaving like a spoilt kid around the sheds after the game, kicking stuff over and ranting and then taking that attitude into training during the week. This team need a new way of thinking, a new psychology. Aside from the scrum-half issue, the squad has the quality to dominate this league. That can only be achieved by a new coach.
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Rarely have I read such cobblers. Does Omari really believe this rubbish?
"We’re not losing games through any lack of effort, although it might look like that, and we’re working hard in training to put things right." I know what I saw with my own eyes on Sunday.
“I think the boys are trying too hard, me included, and instead of just sticking with the gameplan we get a bit carried away trying to score points, when really it’s a case of seeing games out." If our display after 18mins was us getting carried away trying to score points then I hate to see us play boring rugby as it'd put a glass eye to sleep.
“But all the boys have full faith in him and I don’t think there is any sort of problem at all.” No problem at all eh?
A statement from someone more senior at the club would've been more appropriate. It stinks a bit to send a player out to comment who's probably not got the skills to put into words what's going on. Where's Ferres? He's quick to comment when he says the fans aren't getting behind the team - where are you now Steve? You're stepping up your hunt for a scrum half? What have you been doing for the past 18months?
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Rarely have I read such cobblers. Does Omari really believe this rubbish?
"We’re not losing games through any lack of effort, although it might look like that, and we’re working hard in training to put things right." I know what I saw with my own eyes on Sunday.
“I think the boys are trying too hard, me included, and instead of just sticking with the gameplan we get a bit carried away trying to score points, when really it’s a case of seeing games out." If our display after 18mins was us getting carried away trying to score points then I hate to see us play boring rugby as it'd put a glass eye to sleep.
“But all the boys have full faith in him and I don’t think there is any sort of problem at all.” No problem at all eh?
A statement from someone more senior at the club would've been more appropriate. It stinks a bit to send a player out to comment who's probably not got the skills to put into words what's going on. Where's Ferres? He's quick to comment when he says the fans aren't getting behind the team - where are you now Steve? You're stepping up your hunt for a scrum half? What have you been doing for the past 18months?
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Omari has voiced his displeasure at that article on twitter this morning, so let's just remember that Ross is a journalist trying to sell papers at the end of the day.
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Well that's a first, being lectured on the English language by somebody from Manchestaar 
Aw bless course you would if you say so 
