AdeyBull I'm not trying to be negative but here's the facts

Played 6
Won 1
Drawn 1
Lost 4
GD - 46
Points 3
Position 11th out of 14

Sometimes it's about the result and listening to the Cas fans all they were bothered about was the victory not performance or the margin.

I agree today's performance was more positive and there were signs of improvement. Lets not forget we need to start winning and soon, this isn't about marks out of 10 for the performance, it's about the points you get for winning.

Have to completely agree with you. I'd rather play average for 80 mins and clinch a win than play world class for 70 and let 10 tries in in as many minutes. We need a solid performance for the whole game.

Yeah, but I'd rather be getting on a roll near the back end of the season (providing we get a play-off place

) than get the wins now. A GF win is better than 10 league wins (unless they're against Whinos

)

Could not agree more. I'm as gutted as everyone about that last ten mins (although Cas were outstanding in that period, to be fair).

But It does get a bit grating when all you hear from some quarters is that we are just crap. Was a fair bit of comment round where I was stood about that.

Maybe they were just watching Deacon?

Bad points:

We seem to have almost a set scrpt this year, which invariably includes:
1. Concede a try in the 40th minute
2. If in front, let the defence collaps so that the opposition gets on a roll and scores at will
3. Get out of jail with some great last ditch defence - and then undo it all by giving them the ball back on the zero tackle
4. Instead of counting down the minutes - give them the ball back again by kicking off out on the full
5. Concede a try in the 80th minute
6. Someone takes Deacons head off. this time, looked like a Bailey-style shoulder to the head. All seemingly perfectly legit.

Good points:
1. What a fantastic bloody game! yes I am totally gutted, and we should have had enough to stop Cas getting on the roll - and had the opportunities to do it, losing the ball straight from ths scrum after the last ditch tackle was THE key - hold it for 6 and a decent kick then, and the match was ours. But for most of the game, there was some excelent rugby from both teams.
2. Excellent support from both sets of fans made it a great atmosphere
3. Platt - superb

Yes it was pretty crap.

But did you see the tries?

They were pretty damn good ones.

The league table doesn't lie, lets see where we are after the fabled 10 games. I'm not bothered about rolls or nor do i expect to win every game, but 1 win from 6 is worrying.

I agree, but it's always going to happen, even more so when we lose games.

It's so easy to find the bad points, when you feel you are down on the back of another loss.

Hopefully the mood will change again over the next few days

Yes it is worrying, but it's still early days. It would feel better to win the GF from 8th after a hard struggling season than to walk it all finishing 1st.

Does it matter if they were good tries our not. We couldn't hold them out and thats what matters.

We are 5 points adrifrt of Wakefield in 8th and our next 2 games are Leeds and Wakefield.

yeah i know what you mean but I hope they start to get the wins soon, as i said today showed signs of improvement lets just build from that and see what happens.

I didnt think our defense particularly deteriorated in those last 10 mins, just that Cas took their chances whereas earlier in the game they'd made plenty of breaks without making them count.

Not the worst defeat of the season by any means, but at our current standard we need to make sure we pick up the points in those games that we have a chance of winning.

Is it?

Sure we all want to win every game, but a narrow loss in a fine game away at Cas would, all other things being equal, not be that disastrous. We collapsed in the last 10 minutes or so, and what cost us dearly was losing the ball straight after the scrum, and the kick out on the full, but you can't say Cas weren't worth their win, or that we didn't play a full part. Your sig says:

Can you accept failure, as we were sure trying, trying our bloody socks off!

I wouldn't have a problem with that. But to be 16 points in front with 10 minutes left and end up loosing isn't good enough.

I'd agree, which is why seeing as we're making something of a habit of this, and conceding last-minute tries, I've sort of made the point in my sig

If it is any consolation i think bradford was the better team today, you played some really good football, just did not have enough steam left in the tank!! I AM NOT COMPAINING THO!

I am sure your next win is not too far away,

Good look in the challenge cup!

For what it's worth and the 80 minutes I have just witnessed, I don't think your team is as bad as some of you lot make out. It's sometimes the same on our board, that some of the biggest moaners can be the ones that sit at home and listen to the game on the radio...

Platt looked good going forward, Nero and Tadulala took some holding and I thought your back row played well. I don't see Bradford every week, so it's not my place to comment on players current form, but Bradford won't be far away come the end of the season on that performance.

The nature of most RL supporters is to focus on the league table and the current or last 80 minutes. SL is a lot more competitive than recent years and Bulls, Wigan and Wire all sit outside the top 8. There are no easy beats this year, but some supporters think they should be beating certain teams, because they have done so in previous years ! It doesn't work like that this year.

A seasons success or failure shouldn't be judged in March, you lot will be thereabouts, but whether you can actually win anything with McNamara - the jurys out.

A good following for your team today and Odsal will always be a tough place for teams to go and get 2 pts. Stick with 'em and best of luck.

Some truth there it would seem.


Can't argue with that.

Unhappy with the result from what I was listening to on BCB bradford should have won I would give McNaramara the benfit of the doubt and give him the three games against Catalans, Leeds and Wakefield.

I struggle how even the fiercest critics of McNamara could blame him for today's result. The team defended pretty strongly IMO for the majority of the game. Our players coped well with some strong Cas pressure and de-fused some towering kicks. Unless of course Macca sent a message onto the field with 10 minutes saying 'well done lads job done'.

Pretty fair summation that. Well said.

Trouble is, it doesn't accord with the script of the Negative Tendency on here. Especially those who did not see what actually happened in that last few mins, how we screwed up at a couple of crucial moments and how your lot ran in three excellent tries after some truly outstanding effort.

From what I saw today, its no fluke you guys are where you are in the table.

The tackle was perfectly legal, Shenton never touched his head. Deacon just hit a brick wall

Are you sure? I would like to see it again. It looked dodgy to me.
But what do I know.