Gateshead Thunder played in the early days of SL. Unfortunately, as it seems to be usual case, this attempt at an expansion club didn't take off meaning the club had spiraling debt and so was "merged" with Hull FC. That's merged in the way that Hull FC stayed an SL club, got a big wad of cash of SL and helped themselves to Gateshead's players

Maybe you should have hd a look at some of DL's posts before responding, although the before his time bit was probably the truth

Sorry I thought you was a Hull fan.Im sure everyone agrees the last 18 months ?? or so have been pretty shambolic. We were docked 6 points for going into admin and new company not paying old ones debts,also 1.2 million taken from new company for not paying old ones debts.But RFL thought it better every other club should get extra 100k over 2 years instead of the 1.2 million going to pay off old companies debts.So I guess the rules are made up as we go along

It certainly feels like the rules are made up as they go along. The sport desperately needs a clear and honest statement from the RFL (no matter how bad or unfair it may seem) as to the help they have or have not given to clubs. Only then will people be able to move on; we're a minority sport and can ill afford all this in house fighting, mistrust and hatred.
I won't hold my breath though!

According to reporters Carvell is today training and undergoing fitness tests at Hull FCC training ground seems certain he is gone now.

Payback is a bitch just like when we were in the and you took McNamara, vaikona and Radford imo you should have been relegated last season and you should have definitely been this season, how many years was you spending over the salary cap for it to come to this

Appreciated,just googled it. It seems hull fc just used gateshead to survive.

What goes around comes around eh???

I take it the special schools in Hull finish about 3.00pm

Aye indeed. Hopefully this means that you will finally get McNamara back. Then you will be right in the she-ite.

Do they have any other types of school?

My banning finger is twitching for some reason.

You're listening to a catchy tune?

As strange as it sounds and I never thought I would ever say this myself but McNamara would be an improvement on what they have now, you leave Radford to it!

RP you really are an expect in Rugby, you can tell what a coach is going to be like, before he has even coached a competitive game.

Apologies for some of my fellow Hull fans, they have no class. Not a great position to be in (we have been in this position) and we shouldn't gloat, with Adam Pearson I think we would have been in a similar position.

Look like Carvell is done, Gale not happening by the looks of things.

Also ignore Des, he is a Rovers troll, he knew exactly what went on with Gateshead.

I'm over losing Carvell, particularly if we can secure Evans in the short term whilst potentially looking to recruit somebody else from Oz/NZ if funds permit.

Keeping hold of Gale is a must now though, our whole pre season will have been geared around him as our chief playmaker. We simply don't have the strength in depth to lose him at this late stage.

Can't help notice that the fantastic news about Sidlow re-signing has been forgotten in all this speculation regarding Carvell and our ownership. He has looked impressive in pre season and I was surprised by just how big an impact he made last year before his injury. Nice to see him showing some loyalty to the club, coach and supporters despite it not being the easiest period for us.

Ross from the T & A with an update of sorts:

He does have a very valid point.

There has been uproar on your forum regarding your performances in pre season, yes, even before a competitive game. His only head coaching job was at East Hull, learned his trade under Gentle and Agar, who lets be honest are pretty damn poor and strong rumours both coaches couldn't deal with player power. Already slating his squad in the press! why don't you tell me the positives of his appointment?

Of course you can have a fair an educated guess at how coaches/players will perform.

Like you have no idea how he will go, so I don't make myself look stupid with silly predictions

To judge a coach on pre season is ridiculous.

Right Bulls fans let's get over on the fc and rovers boards for a tear up with wakey fans. Who's up for it?

Fair enough, I predict he will be useless. It might make me look stupid and clueless but that's how I think he will go. I will look forward to been ridiculed in years to come when he has taken FC into been one of the biggest clubs in the land. Get Mrs B to put it in her long list of quotes!

Sorry, back on topic, strange situation with Carvell, at hull today having a fitness test when your club are claiming he is under contract.

I reckon we might offer you a small fee to get this sorted and everyone can maybe move on.

BTW, what is tupe? I have no idea?

So on basis Carvell is almost certain to go, what about Evans and Mason as replacements, should be able to get for same money paying Carvell and adds depth to the squad. Not ideal, but at this stage, take what's available and we need numbers and size!

TUPE is transfer of contracts when an organization takes on the work previously carried out by another company, so protecting employees from losing their jobs when organizations take on work previously carried out by another. The argument is Carvell's contract TUPE transferred to new owners from OK Bulls. As an employee, Carvell had the right to refuse the TUPE transfer but needed to do it on day 1. If he did that he was free to look for employment elsewhere. This is exactly what Kopczak did. By the fact this case is still rumbling on 1 week later, my guess is that Carvell and his advisers didn't cover their backsides properly.