Trust you to come up with that tigs - or should that be priapus?



Now that you mention it there is something macro-phallic about it, with a couple of firmly held

cheeks

No sign of the 'Mystic Eddie For Chairman' campaign I see.

1: Sticking with seemingly under-performing managers is rare, but it does not seem any less successful than dispensing with them. Clubs that change manager frequently aren't usually associated with success.

2: Man Utd were able to attract someone with a track record because they are Man Utd. We are not, and when you get your head round that, you'll be a lot happier.

It does leave the question of how Caisley got Brian Smith over here in '96, but since then we've 'only' been able to attract unproven assistant coaches.

3: Your original claim that we have had three years of mediocrity doesn't really hold up. Who has had a better last three years than Bradford, other than Leeds and Saints. Wigan? If so, barely and while suffering far greater indignities. 3rd or 4th just is not mediocre. Ask all but two or three of the other clubs in the Super League. Ask a few left outside, like Halifax and Widnes.

You can call it spin. I call it a dispassionate assessment of reality, as opposed to living in a fantasy world where if only Hood tried to bring in Wayne Bennett and Greg Inglis instead of settling for mediocrity, we'd be beating Leeds every other week; where going out of the play-offs in the first week is rock bottom (again, have a chat with some Halifax fans).


Classic 'Attlee was crap' reasoning there. Half that championship side was out the door before or soon after McNamara took over.

No sign of an interesting post from you I see.

Whilst I realise that we are not Man United (really?

) we [iwere[/i the reigning Super League and World Club Champions when McNamara was appointed. Unofficially, that made us the best club side in the world. Perhaps there [imay[/i have been some interest in our position had the club not taken a "knee jerk" decision to quickly fill the role vacated by Nobby with an unproven understudy who was no doubt a cheap option.

As for mediocrity? From SL and WCC champions to first round play-off elimination in two and a bit years? Very mediocre for a club who continue to make all the right noises about how competitive they are.

Cheers for the concession offered with the italics, but given that...

a) you have no evidence anyone was interested and
b) as you hint at, we were particularly skint at the time

...there is no (I'll see your italics and raise you a bold) reason to believe anyone else particularly more qualified could have come in.


SL Champions...

Michael Withers, Leon Pryce, Ben Harris, Shontayne Hape, Lesley Vainikolo, Iestyn Harris, Paul Deacon, Ian Henderson, Stuart Fielden, Jamie Peacock, Paul Johnson, Bradley Meyers, Lee Radford
Subs: Robbie Paul, Joe Vagana, Adrian Morley, Jamie Langley

Out first round...

Bradford Bulls: Michael Platt, James Evans, Paul Sykes, Chris Nero, Semi Tadulala, Paul Deacon, Ben Jeffries, Joe Vagana, Terry Newton, Andy Lynch, David Solomona, Simon Finnigan, Jamie Langley
Subs: Matt Cook, Iestyn Harris, Craig Kopczak, Glenn Morrison

... four survivors, half as many as played in both '05 and '08 GFs for Leeds (and not including Keith, who was injured thanks to Joe

). And by the way...



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Again I could say that the players McNamara signed were just not good enough to replace those leaving. But no doubt some people will find other more "plausible" reasons for our downturn in quality.

As for the Noble link? Yes, sometimes clubs DO get it right. In the case of McNamara though, they have it completely wrong.

Not a flicker of recognition that replacing 75% of your first team squad in three years might be more difficult than replacing 50% of your first team squad, especially considering financial restraints and the lack of youth players coming through. And it's all academic when you have no alternative to offer to McNamara, other than on-off assurances that 'someone' might have been interested or might now be interested in the job.

Blah Blah Blah.

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The same old "name a better person" argument. Why is it that some people feel the need for an alternative to be named rather than accept an opinion that the present man is not good enough?

Of [icourse[/i replacing 75% of the team is more difficult than replacing 50% of it. Even more difficult when you have a coach with a poor record in regards to recruitment.

However. Lets look at Wigan - the side that faced us a couple of weeks before Nobby left....

Ashton, Calderwood, Richards, Vaeliki, Dallas, Orr, Moran, Seuseu, Higham, Hargreaves, Tickle, Fletcher, O'Loughlin
Subs Wilkes, Prescott, Godwin, Jonkers

and the team that knocked us out of the play offs last season...

Mathers, Calderwood, Phelps, Carmont, Richards, Barrett, Leuluai, Fielden, Higham, Coley, Hansen, Bailey, J. Tomkins.
Subs: Paleaaesina, Hock, O'Carroll, Smith

Interestingly, three players played in both games - it seems that Nobby has dealt with his new broom a bit better than McNamara has done. Especially when you consider what they both inherited.

That's a 'no' then?

You seriously thought I was gonna start a campaign?

No I didn't. I knew perfectly well what you'd do. Nothing.

There are a number of precedents of football supporters organising, raising funds, purchasing shares and gaining a seat on the board. If Hood is the idiot you say then present a simple manifesto in which you could lay out simply the way forward and your experiences of running similar organisations. Suggest a small amount of money each person would have to pay and guage the response. This is a simple and progressive way forward for those not happy with the running of the club.

We clearly don't agree but from the number of posts you make on the matter you feel strongly and are prepared to put time and effort in. I'd also say you are not alone as others agree with you. All I'm saying is act for change. Be progressive and put forward an alternative so everyone can judge it.

Now where did I say that Hood was an idiot?

Somehow that was the inference I took from him employing a coach you call 'Macbanana'.

Manifesto?

Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough)

Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh?

Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever.

Quote ="mystic eddie"Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough) Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh? Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever. '" viewtopic.php? ... highlight= About halfway down the page. How transparent are you?

Quote ="mystic eddie"Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough) Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh? Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever. '" viewtopic.php? ... highlight= About halfway down the page. How transparent are you?

OK, so I [ihave[/i used the term, but in response to the name of the thread.



However, obsession noted.

That's OK Mr Clever!

Not sure calling people silly names and then denying it is a quality I'm looking for in the new Bulls Chairman.

Let's hear your other ideas.

Had I a realistic aim of becoming a club chairman, maybe I would have some "other ideas". However, I do not and therefore whatever goals I would like to set are irrelevant.

However, just because I do not have a realistic aim of ever becoming the chairman does not mean that I cannot have an opinion on how they are doing the job.

After all, I also reckon that Gordon Brown is a numpty and incapable of running the country but that does not mean I have to justify my opinion by highlighting how I would save the NHS and solve the current international Credit Crunch.

McNamara ambitions remain undented www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... _undented/

McNamara ambitions remain undented www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/s ... _undented/

Amazing. Yet again he is "learning". He seems to be learning each week, yet still seems to have no answers. What exactly did he know when he became our head coach?

As for coaching England? Well, the English fans are on a downer at the moment and could probably do with a good laugh.

Because they recognise that while it may very well be true that Wayne Bennett could do a better job than Steve McNamara, if Bennett is not interested in the job then it is irrelevant to whether McNamara should stay on. What is relevant is who is out there that the club could realistically attract that could do better. You haven't got an answer and you never have had an answer. When people have had a go, their answers have been laughable - Ellery Hanley, Karl Harrison, people whose careers in RL coaching have given no indication whatsoever that they would do a better job than McNamara. They recognise that sacking your coach without having any idea of a replacement is like jumping out of your boat in the middle of the ocean because the ocean liner that just passed you is much better. Bad news my friend, it isn't stopping, and that looks like a dorsal fin heading towards you.


This is the same Wigan side that have conceded fifty to Saints and Leeds at home? Got beaten 34-4 by Huddersfield at home? Lost a Challenge Cup semi-final to a side 11th in the Super League table at the time? Finished well below Bradford in the table two years out three?... yeah, they got a fluke win at Odsal last year and a more convincing, albeit video ref assisted one this, but if Bulls had had the same last three years that Wigan have had, you'd still be spitting chips and calling for McNamara's head. I'd say that Noble (your selection for comparison who is, let's remember, the most successful coach in the history of both the club and the game in the Super League era) and McNamara are experiencing similar difficulties in a rebuilding process and are experiencing roughly similar levels of success.

Hmm.

Two full seasons as a head coach, one SL title win (the team he left went on to be champions the next year too) and one promotion won with a team who finished bottom of their league the year before.

If that's a laughable suggestion for a coach then bring on the laughs.

Yeah, Ellery would give us the stability we need. Also, John Monie won the title the year before and now he's been sacked by France he's probably available, perhaps we should go for him.

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