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| Such a shame Lowes can't be gracious in defeat. Lost all respect for him I'm afraid. He needs to stop socialising with Karl Harrison.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Such a shame Lowes can't be gracious in defeat. Lost all respect for him I'm afraid. He needs to stop socialising with Karl Harrison.'"
How's your respect for Derek Beaumont holding up?
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| Also to note, much respect to Jake Emmitt, who took taunts from the crowd in very good spirits and gave it back in a good natured way yesterday. Brierley and Hopkins may not have been quite so good natured, but Emmitt was a credit to himself and the club.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"Yorkshire post: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7108456
"To cap a strange afternoon, complaints were made to the match commissioner after members of the Bradford staff were allegedly verbally abused by Leigh’s head of rugby Derek Beaumont, who was seen taunting some of the Bulls’ squad members in the main stand."'"
Your link doesn't work for me, perhaps the system we have at work prevents it?
Is it a Porn site?
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"Yorkshire post: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-7108456
"To cap a strange afternoon, complaints were made to the match commissioner after members of the Bradford staff were allegedly verbally abused by Leigh’s head of rugby Derek Beaumont, who was seen taunting some of the Bulls’ squad members in the main stand."'"
Your link doesn't work for me, perhaps the system we have at work prevents it?
Is it a Porn site?
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I started reading the thread, but when it descends into petty arguing, I tend to switch off. So I'll just post thoughts on the game.
Positives: Adam O'Brien, who was simply brilliant. Constant threat with the ball, superb defence (see him grab hold of Moimoi on his own, stop him in his tracks and refuse to let go?). Gaskell in the first half ripped Leigh apart. Adam Sidlow looked like a different player, and has perhaps found the perfect level for him. Put in a lot of minutes and was our best prop. The first half in general was a huge positive as they played some very very good stuff when they weren't getting distracted.
Negatives: Discipline, Discipline, Discipline. Most of the team were guilty at times of losing their cool when they should have stepped back from it. Seijka more than anyone with two utterly stupid sin bins that he only has himself to blame for. Ulugia came off the bench and all he did was miss a tackle and give away a stupid penalty with hardly any time left.
Yeah there were a couple of dodgy calls from the officials. Purtell's try should have been given no doubt, and the "high tackle" from Uaisele when he forced the Leigh player in goal in the second half made you wonder what the linesman was looking at. And yes, the referee should have controlled it better and not been fooled quite so easily. But you have to play what's there in front of you, and we failed to do that. Had the team not got involved in the rough house tactics, they wouldn't have thrown it away so badly. As Lowes and Walker pretty much said on Radio Leeds after the game.
If they cut out those stupid mistakes, there's plenty to take out of the game. Especially when you consider it's half a new team and these guys haven't played much together. They'll only get better.
I do worry a little that with no proper cover for the halves, we could have a situation where Siejka doesn't have to play well to get his spot next week, like other positions do. Hopefully he will improve with game time though and cut out the stupid stuff.
Leigh will go well this year though. A lot of teams would have thrown the towel in at half time, they upped their game and did what they needed to do to win. And players like Brierley and McNally were superb at times.'"
Not much to argue about here but have to say that the second yellow for Siejka was a crap decision.
Both players were beggering around in a 50/50 game of nothing, the ball had gone dead and play was not affected. The "incident" was right in front of us and I couldn't believe the decision.
Was it a game changer? No idea!
Its been on long time since I felt as passionate about going to watch my team play and just as long since I felt angry with the referee (and linesman) and not the performance of the team.
What a fantastic ground the LSV is - wish we had one like it !
More positives than negatives though
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| Quote ="glow"Your link doesn't work for me, perhaps the system we have at work prevents it?
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It's fine now. Hardcore stuff.
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"To cap a strange afternoon, complaints were made to the match commissioner after members of the Bradford staff were allegedly verbally abused by Leigh’s head of rugby Derek Beaumont, who was seen taunting some of the Bulls’ squad members in the main stand."'"
Classy.
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"To cap a strange afternoon, complaints were made to the match commissioner after members of the Bradford staff were allegedly verbally abused by Leigh’s head of rugby Derek Beaumont, who was seen taunting some of the Bulls’ squad members in the main stand."'"
Classy.
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| I don't condone it if Lowes was abusive in defeat but it sort of makes sense having a petulant moment. But abusive in victory? That's a bit weird.
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"To cap a strange afternoon, complaints were made to the match commissioner after members of the Bradford staff were allegedly verbally abused by Leigh’s head of rugby Derek Beaumont, who was seen taunting some of the Bulls’ squad members in the main stand."'"
Its typical from him to be fair. He is an embarrassment to Leigh, I think we played them about 3 seasons back when we were expected to win and Leigh ended up beating us, we had some light hearted banter with the Leigh fans around us when one guy in particular started getting a bit mouthy f'ing and blinding and been aggressive towards our fans. I dont usually bother when that happens and didnt bother turning round, eventually after it carried on for a while I turned around only to see it was Beaumont.
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"To cap a strange afternoon, complaints were made to the match commissioner after members of the Bradford staff were allegedly verbally abused by Leigh’s head of rugby Derek Beaumont, who was seen taunting some of the Bulls’ squad members in the main stand."'"
Its typical from him to be fair. He is an embarrassment to Leigh, I think we played them about 3 seasons back when we were expected to win and Leigh ended up beating us, we had some light hearted banter with the Leigh fans around us when one guy in particular started getting a bit mouthy f'ing and blinding and been aggressive towards our fans. I dont usually bother when that happens and didnt bother turning round, eventually after it carried on for a while I turned around only to see it was Beaumont.
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| The T and A are also reporting something similar in regards to the behaviour of Derek Beaumont during the game.
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| Positives for us - I thought we kept our composure quite well in the 1st half when the ref had lost control of the game. We scored some good tries. I thought the pack was excellent, particularly Sidlow and O'Brien. Had we had another prop to come on like Lauaki or Davies and perhaps Ferguson for Olbison then I think we'd have done better.
Negatives - Siejka getting binned twice was a killer. What an idiot. It really cost us when he was off as Leigh spotted us being man down and put the ball wide to good effect. Out edge defence was a bit poor particularly on the right side where Walker doesn't look quick enough for the centres to me - hopefully Blythe and or Baille will be back soon. Siejka also needs to practice his goalkicking he looked very average in the friendlies and he missed a sitter yesterday.
I enjoyed the day, it was a very entertaining game. Nice ground too. We've lots of room for improvement but I'm sure we'll get there. Had that game been in 4 or 5 weeks time it would've been closer.
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| Lets be straight, Cobb was incompetent yesterday, totally lost control of the game within the first 20 minutes - he couldn't even form a scrum!
First half we played some good stuff but got drawn into the rough stuff which clearly favoured the opposition. Siejka spending quarter of the match off the field was a killer, he's clearly competitive which is good but he needs be a lot smarter than that.
Second half we looked knackered and fell off far too many tackles, no excuses conceding 30 points - poor at any level. Not wanting to make a scapegoat of anyone but the team just cannot afford to carry Walker for the rest of the season just because he's the "captain" Chev's just not up to it anymore i'm afraid, especially in the Centre's.
As for the Purtell "no try" very poor decision, it was grounded it was right in front of us and at 20-6 up could have put the game to bed.
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"As for the Purtell "no try" very poor decision, it was grounded it was right in front of us and at 20-6 up could have put the game to bed.'"
I remember at the time thinking what a completely baffling decision that was. The arm he was carrying the ball with, was the one he landed on, and the ball was very clearly grounded, before he was then turned over.
My initial thought was that the referee simply hadn't kept up with it enough to see the initial grounding, but then I realised there was an in goal touch judge. What exactly was he doing, scratching his backside?
It's no excuse whatsoever for losing the game, but it was a truly awful call.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"I remember at the time thinking what a completely baffling decision that was. The arm he was carrying the ball with, was the one he landed on, and the ball was very clearly grounded, before he was then turned over.
My initial thought was that the referee simply hadn't kept up with it enough to see the initial grounding, but then =#FF0000I realised there was an in goal touch judge. What exactly was he doing, scratching his backside?
It's no excuse whatsoever for losing the game, but it was a truly awful call.'"
No in-goal touch judges in the Championship. Just like no video refs - so the ref and his two touch judges have to make all the decisions in this league.
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| Watched it on LCTV and it didnt look grounded, with the Brierley pass to Higson being forward, missed by the TJ but given by the ref
Return fixture will be a cracker, and I would hope you would be allocating us a section of the covered stand at the same admission costs to enhance the atmosphere
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Positives for us - I thought we kept our composure quite well in the 1st half when the ref had lost control of the game. We scored some good tries. I thought the pack was excellent, particularly Sidlow and O'Brien. Had we had another prop to come on like Lauaki or Davies and perhaps Ferguson for Olbison then I think we'd have done better.
Negatives - Siejka getting binned twice was a killer. What an idiot. It really cost us when he was off as Leigh spotted us being man down and put the ball wide to good effect. Out edge defence was a bit poor particularly on the right side where Walker doesn't look quick enough for the centres to me - hopefully Blythe and or Baille will be back soon. Siejka also needs to practice his goalkicking he looked very average in the friendlies and he missed a sitter yesterday.
I enjoyed the day, it was a very entertaining game. Nice ground too. We've lots of room for improvement but I'm sure we'll get there. Had that game been in 4 or 5 weeks time it would've been closer.'"
Does Siejka have a track record as a kicker? It wasnt just that he missed a sitter, but he nearly did the same with his first attempt. Hopefully he'll get a fair bit of practice in the next few months, but we really will need a reliable kicker when it gets to the end of the season. I thought his second sin binning was very poor. I didnt see the first but in all the mayhem its to be expected that a couple of players will lose their cool. Its a fine line between ill discipline and not being seen as a soft touch.
The lack of another prop proved costly in the second half.
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| Quote ="maurice"Watched it on LCTV and it didnt look grounded, with the Brierley pass to Higson being forward, missed by the TJ but given by the ref
Return fixture will be a cracker, and I would hope you would be allocating us a section of the covered stand at the same admission costs to enhance the atmosphere'"
No, you can stand in the rain
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Its typical from him to be fair. He is an embarrassment to Leigh, I think we played them about 3 seasons back when we were expected to win and Leigh ended up beating us, we had some light hearted banter with the Leigh fans around us when one guy in particular started getting a bit mouthy f'ing and blinding and been aggressive towards our fans. I dont usually bother when that happens and didnt bother turning round, eventually after it carried on for a while I turned around only to see it was Beaumont.'"
And to add to that - here is another thread about him - from an unexpected corner!
[urlhttp://www.totalrl.com/forums/index.php/topic/263934-foul-and-abusive-language/[/url
And to add to the strangeness of the day - we had two pints of bitter (over ordered) and not wanted. We tried to give them away to any Leigh fans around us and nobody wanted them... I mean giving free beer away and no takers - not computing!
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| Chev will be at loose for the next few games I would think, after Addy's injury. Should be more effective there if he can join his (long ago) instincts from being a good centre with his (now) forward build.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"Also to note, much respect to Jake Emmitt, who took taunts from the crowd in very good spirits and gave it back in a good natured way yesterday. Brierley and Hopkins may not have been quite so good natured, but Emmitt was a credit to himself and the club.'"
Thought Emmitt was immense yesterday. No coincidence that we got back into the game during a spell with him and Wilkes on the pitch at the same time. They both calmed things down by doing what they are paid to do, run the ball in hard and do nothing stupid. Gave platform for Moimoi to have an impact when he came on. Acton could be struggling to keep his place when Spencer is fit, was a stupid challenge that led to his sin binning.
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| I was directly in front of Purtell when he dived over and he did get the ball down. The reason the ref didn't give it was that he was positioned on the other side to the ball carrying arm and didn't get a clear view. There were lots of defenders around in the way. Clear need for in goal judges in this situation.
That said these things happen. We were still 14 points up. Instead we conceded territory and gave some needless penalties away. The Siejka sin binning being a pivotal moment. One Leigh got on the right edge we struggled to contain them.
Siejka's goalkicking isn't good enough at the moment. I'm not sure about the rest of his game either the but early days.
That said Gaskell looked very classy.
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| Emmitt was getting the mickey taken out of him but laughed it off. Mature reaction. Thought Acton and Barlow needed to chill out when the game finished. Less mature.
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| Quote ="Errol Stock"
And to add to the strangeness of the day - we had two pints of bitter (over ordered) and not wanted. We tried to give them away to any Leigh fans around us and nobody wanted them... I mean giving free beer away and no takers - not computing!'"
This is the single biggest disgrace of the day!
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| I honestly can't get my head around why Walker was picked in the centres? He was past playing in the centres about 4 years ago so to pick him there in front of Ulugia, Henry, Shaw or Walshaw is ridiculous. I'd take any one of those over Walker in that position. Was it a case of trying to fit the captain in somewhere or is that the position Lowes see's him playing? I knew that we'd have trouble down his flank as soon as the team was announced. Barmy decision.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"I honestly can't get my head around why Walker was picked in the centres? He was past playing in the centres about 4 years ago so to pick him there in front of Ulugia, Henry, Shaw or Walshaw is ridiculous. I'd take any one of those over Walker in that position. Was it a case of trying to fit the captain in somewhere or is that the position Lowes see's him playing? I knew that we'd have trouble down his flank as soon as the team was announced. Barmy decision.'"
Couldn't agree more
When we were stripped bare last year it was one thing for Chev to have to play wherever there was a need, but yesterday we had a centre on the bench, plus two more making up the 19 man squad. And that's before we consider Walshaw
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