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| Nope, not with our weak pack im not.
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| Without any evidence I would expect Catalans to continue their progress under Robinson next season, & Hull's pack looks far superior to Bradford's. So I can't see 6th or 7th.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Without any evidence I would expect Catalans to continue their progress under Robinson next season, & Hull's pack looks far superior to Bradford's. So I can't see 6th or 7th.'"
Should have gone to Specs avers TT
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| Every season I've ever seen has had its ups and downs. I'm guessing 2012 will be no different, so bring it on.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Without any evidence I would expect Catalans to continue their progress under Robinson next season, & Hull's pack looks far superior to Bradford's. So I can't see 6th or 7th.'"
Just looked at Hull's squad and they only have 9 forwards with first team experience in the whole squad and one of them is O'Carrol who's barely played in 2 years. So unless they sign a player and they have no overseas space left so they are 1 injury away from kids making their debut.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Just looked at Hull's squad and they only have 9 forwards with first team experience in the whole squad and one of them is O'Carrol who's barely played in 2 years. So unless they sign a player and they have no overseas space left so they are 1 injury away from kids making their debut.'"
Yes. A lot of these squads look better than ours on paper, but with a few injuries to key players, who knows.
We can't be as unlucky again with injuries can we? If we keep the first choice squad fit, I think it looks pretty decent.
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| Quote ="debaser"Yes. A lot of these squads look better than ours on paper, but with a few injuries to key players, who knows.
We can't be as unlucky again with injuries can we? If we keep the first choice squad fit, I think it looks pretty decent.'"
That's absolutely right, imo. The Huddersfield squad looked much better than ours a few months back, just before we beat them 36 - 0 but games aren't played on paper and anything can happen in reality.
I'm not going to look around the squads at this stage and think they are all better than ours, there's no point, since you never really know how things will work out anyway. Every team has new players and not all will 'gel' as well as their coaches hoped so there are always surprises. Onwards and upwards!!
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"So unless they sign a player and they have no overseas space left so they are 1 injury away from kids making their debut.'"
That's not necessarily a bad thing, especially at a place like Hull where bringing through the kids seems to have slipped off the agenda. It got us to third place in the table and a fifth Grand Final loss on the bounce. Quite an achievement!
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| I'm looking forward to it I always do but as far as predicting how the club goes I don't know.
I think we'll struggle to finish in the playoffs if I'm honest but I've become resigned to that being the case until we get a change in the ownership of the club and the board of directors.
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| These are the odds, not sure whether it's GF or league placings, but bookies are saying 8th or 9th which I agree with, possibly 10th:
WIRE 11-4
WIGAN 11-4
ST HELENS 7-2
LEEDS 9-2
HUDDERSFIELD 14-1
HULL FC 16-1
CATALANS 20-1
BRADFORD 33-1
HULL KR 33-1
CASTLEFORD 50-1
SALFORD 66-1
HARLEQUINS 66-1
WAKEFIELD 100-1
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| I'm going to say 7th
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| The odds above are for grand final winners I believe, and I'd need more than 33-1 to put any money on us. As far as predicted position I'd go for 7th or 8th, and I'd be happy with that tbf in our current situation.
I am looking forward to the next season as its another chance, and by the start of the season I'll probably convince myself that we are going to win more games than we lose, like the good old days!
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| I look forward to every season. Looking at how the season finished and the teams around us, I think we should realistically acheive 24 to 28 points just scraping in the playoffs 7th or 8th.
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| I'm not looking forward to it as much as I did last year. I would say that I'm resigned to it and am really hoping it's going to be better than recent years.
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| Join me in aspiring for mid-table mediocrity.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Join me in aspiring for mid-table mediocrity.'"
No wish to join you in being a Cas fan...
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| We are going to win it in 2012 i can feel it
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| Quote ="Adeybull"No wish to join you in being a Cas fan...'"
Don't fight it, it is inevitable. And far less disappointing.
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| the good thing is that we have improved our biggest and most embarrassing area, the backline. our new recruits would have to be major flops for the backline to be anything other than a major improvement.
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| If we can keep this team fit and without injury:-
Kearney
Ainscough
Lulia
Purtell
Kear
Gale
Briggs/sammut
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Lestrange
Scruton (If can find form from couple years ago)
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Bench: Diskin, Burgess, Sammut/Briggs, Hargreaves
I think we could go ok. I'm excited about the speed we have on the wings for next year and I'm hoping we will play a lot wider than this year and take advantage of it! Really looking forward to seeing how the new signings go. Purtell and Lulia from what I have seen are a big improvement on this year. All I want to see this year is more belief from the players when times are tough. A few wins where we need to come from behind would be nice to see too instead of a capitulation....
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| Quote ="Bullmaniac123"If we can keep this team fit and without injury:-
Kearney
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Manuokafao
Lestrange
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I think we could go ok. I'm excited about the speed we have on the wings for next year and I'm hoping we will play a lot wider than this year and take advantage of it! Really looking forward to seeing how the new signings go. Purtell and Lulia from what I have seen are a big improvement on this year. All I want to see this year is more belief from the players when times are tough. A few wins where we need to come from behind would be nice to see too instead of a capitulation....'"
a decent enough looking side and I agree with what you say. there's also the question of the depth of the sqaud.
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| Quote ="Bullmaniac123"If we can keep this team fit and without injury:-
Kearney
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Manuokafao
Lestrange
Scruton (If can find form from couple years ago)
Whitehead
Elima
Langley
Bench: Diskin, Burgess, Sammut/Briggs, Hargreaves
I think we could go ok. I'm excited about the speed we have on the wings for next year and I'm hoping we will play a lot wider than this year and take advantage of it! Really looking forward to seeing how the new signings go. Purtell and Lulia from what I have seen are a big improvement on this year. All I want to see this year is more belief from the players when times are tough. A few wins where we need to come from behind would be nice to see too instead of a capitulation....'"
unless hargreaves regains his form at saints think kopczak would be on team sheet before him. only other change I'd make would be a 2nd rower on bench. Dont think we can afford to have a half on the bench. maybe walker to cover 2nd row and ?. Otherwise looks like strongest team we can put out based on signings so far.
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| Quote ="phillgee"there's also the question of the depth of the sqaud.'"
yeah unfortunately we don't have much quality to cover for injuries. I think keeping L'estrange and Diskin fit all season will also be key to us making any improvment.
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| Quote ="mat"unless hargreaves regains his form at saints think kopczak would be on team sheet before him. only other change I'd make would be a 2nd rower on bench. Dont think we can afford to have a half on the bench. maybe walker to cover 2nd row and Centre?. Otherwise looks like strongest team we can put out based on signings so far.'"
yeah I was unsure about whether to go with koppy or hargreaves but I really want hargreaves to go well next season. I like the guy. Also re having another half on the bench. I really can't see us not using sammut next year....I think he will make a big impact coming off the bench for us. If im honest i think the most likely scenario anyway will be him and gale starting with briggs having to fight for a place. It's not that I dont like briggs its just that I think sammut will be a lot more dangerous. It's just whether sammut and gale can form a decent partnership. Will be interesting to see where potter goes with it.
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| Quote ="Bullmaniac123"yeah I was unsure about whether to go with koppy or hargreaves but I really want hargreaves to go well next season. I like the guy. Also re having another half on the bench. I really can't see us not using sammut next year....I think he will make a big impact coming off the bench for us. If im honest i think the most likely scenario anyway will be him and gale starting with briggs having to fight for a place. It's not that I dont like briggs its just that I think sammut will be a lot more dangerous. It's just whether sammut and gale can form a decent partnership. Will be interesting to see where potter goes with it.'"
I didnt say we wouldnt use sammut. I'd imagine the strongest pairing out of gale,sammut,briggs and jeffries (turning into the forgotten man) will feature each week. Given both jeffries and sammut are only on 1 yr deals it seems likely that their there more to take some pressure of the other two in the short term. But I only think we'll see two featuring in any one match. Just dont think we can justify having an impact half on bench ( unless you leave out the 2nd hooker).
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