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| Quote ="Adeybull"More to the point its:
1. Most supporters won't be able to avail themselves of the complimentary ticket. You may be wealthy but not everyone on here is.
2. Any away weekend to France is not practicable for many supporters, from both a logistics and a cost point of view. (And folk need to remember that in reverse, and some, before ever decrying Cat's or London's away support)
3. We get to face Bird twice, when had it not been for recent events it would have been the other way round. That is simply unjust by any rule of natural justice, although its the cards we have been dealt so we just have to live with it.
THOSE are as likely as not the issues that have pîssed people off about this draw. They are the ones that have me, anyway.'"
Yep, that about does it!
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| Still at least with:
Leeds v Saints
Hull v Salford
Quins v Hudds
Hull KR v Celtic
Its going to be wide open in the fifth round.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"More to the point its:
1. Most supporters won't be able to avail themselves of the complimentary ticket. You may be wealthy but not everyone on here is.
2. Any away weekend to France is not practicable for many supporters, from both a logistics and a cost point of view. (And folk need to remember that in reverse, and some, before ever decrying Cat's or London's away support)
3. We get to face Bird twice, when had it not been for recent events it would have been the other way round. That is simply unjust by any rule of natural justice, although its the cards we have been dealt so we just have to live with it.
THOSE are as likely as not the issues that have pîssed people off about this draw. They are the ones that have me, anyway.'"
I think you've just about summed up my feelings on the matter!
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| Well I suppose it gives our lads another weekend in France
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| Quote ="debaser"Its not so much that as the fact that if we want to use our "free" tickets then we have to shell out a few hundred quid. Bargain.
Coupled with an expensive and time consuming trip for the team themsleves.'"
Think of what is best for the club.
A winnable away game (with travel expenses paid for by the RFL), which could then lead to a home game, which people would have to pay in for rather than get in for nowt.
In the current financial climate at Odsal it is disappointing that some fans are bemoaning that they won't be able to get a freebie
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| [url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/4188502.Menzies_excited_by_Dragons_tie/At least someone's happy...[/url
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| Quote ="Asim"
In the current financial climate at Odsal it is disappointing that some fans are bemoaning that they won't be able to get a freebie
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I think it's the irony of it all
You have to laugh or you'll cry
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Well this is just taking the pîss now.
Fate (if thats what it is - what the hell were the odds of us getting this worst-of-all-ties?) sure knows how to kick us in the balls when we are on the floor. All bloody ways round.'"
Come off it, it's a great draw. We were bound to be away in the rounds, because we're always away in the rounds (and before anyone chimes in yes I do know we did have one home round draw last year, it was the exception that proves the rule).
Away from the maddening crowds, a run-out in the sun, what better way to get a creditable win and repair some of the confidence? Catalans have no chance in this one.
Quote ="Adeybull"Hetherington and Caddick must be rolling on the floor laughing their heads off.'"
You think? Who did the Whinos draw, and would you swap right now?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Who did the Whinos draw, and would you swap right now?
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Yes, because I could go to that game!
As has been rightly commented, the only thing I'm annoyed about is that I can't afford to go. Regardless of the free ticket or not, had it been a game anywhere in the UK, I would have gone.
Reckon I might pop along to watch Sheffield and Dewsbury instead.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Come off it, it's a great draw. We were bound to be away in the rounds, because we're always away in the rounds (and before anyone chimes in yes I do know we did have one home round draw last year, it was the exception that proves the rule).
Away from the maddening crowds, a run-out in the sun, what better way to get a creditable win and repair some of the confidence? Catalans have no chance in this one.
You think? Who did the Whinos draw, and would you swap right now?
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You are Mick Gledhill and I claim my £5...
Sorry mate but after calming down a bit still well hacked off with it - cos the difference is that, unlike Leeds, the fans and the club could do with a bit of a lift right now and this did not help. I actually have a sneaking feeling we'll win this one to be honest, and yes that will be a very big lift. But to re-iterate - my issue is NOT with drawing a quality SL side away, its that its the worst possible draw for many of the fans logistically and cost-wise. And I DO get wound up by injustice, I'll freely admit that, and the Bird situation is injustice of the highest order IMO.
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| No, I'm still wound up.
Do you think the RFL will run free transport to go with the free ticket?
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| In interview menizes said:“Getting to Wembley and playing in the Challenge Cup final was one of the big attractions about coming here and I might only get one chance of doing it, so I’m going to make the most of it."
If he`s signed a 1 yr deal he will only get one chance, but saying he might only get one chance is he hoping for an entension to deal and get more than one chance.
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| Quote ="ritz"In interview menizes said:“Getting to Wembley and playing in the Challenge Cup final was one of the big attractions about coming here and I might only get one chance of doing it, so I’m going to make the most of it."
If he`s signed a 1 yr deal he will only get one chance, but saying he might only get one chance is he hoping for an entension to deal and get more than one chance.'"
If he wants a chance of playing at Wembley, he's better signing a deal next year with another club.
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| I for one am very happy with the draw.
Just booking my tickets now as we speak.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"why not ask mick? he predicted it last year and even got a mention by the RFL IIRC
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| Mick please say we will lose by 30, your predictions are always the opposite.
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| We will lose by 30
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| When was the last time L*eds were drawn away against Super League opposition??
June 1804 by my reckoning.
ALWAYS DRAWN AT HOME
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| Quote ="Adeybull"You are Mick Gledhill and I claim my £5...
Sorry mate but after calming down a bit still well hacked off with it - cos the difference is that, unlike Leeds, the fans and the club could do with a bit of a lift right now and this did not help. I actually have a sneaking feeling we'll win this one to be honest, and yes that will be a very big lift. But to re-iterate - my issue is NOT with drawing a quality SL side away, its that its the worst possible draw for many of the fans logistically and cost-wise. And I DO get wound up by injustice, I'll freely admit that, and the Bird situation is injustice of the highest order IMO.'"
I should clarify in as much I only think it is a good draw from the POV of the team. If we had to draw Catalans, then I'd 100% rather we were playing them away, as it represents a chance for the team to "get away from it all" and go somewhere where, if they end up losing, it won't be a major shock, so away from here, away from the present furore, and with little or no pressure, gives them a chance to play without fear and in a different atmosphere.
Whereas at the moment we would be playing in front of 3,000 largely hostile fans at home, and losing another home game, if we did, would be viewed as yet another total disaster. The pressure would be enormous.
Of course for my own convenience and our other fans I'd love to always be at home, but that wasn't my point.
Having to play [iagainst[/i a player that we actually signed is I agree barking and bite-hard-on-a-leather-strap infuriating. The RFL are powerless to stop it, though, and whilst I have been posting on other threads that the Border Agency won't at least let him in for our home game, frankly it would surprise no-one if they did, such is the general incompetence of our national authorities, and such appears to be the utter mess and confusion caused by the present new immigration process. I read Hood's letter to RLLE and (as you might have expected, though not one or two big mouths on here and elsewhere) contrary to "not having checked it out", the club had actually received documentation and had a visit from the Border Agency about the new "rules", as had all clubs. The Bulls therefore were not at all at fault for the debacle. Hood is furious, and scathing of the Border Agency, and rightly so.
As for the away draw, in the Cup rounds we are away in 99.9% of all draws so I reckon we should just get used to it, we're not due a home draw in the rounds now till 2032.
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| Quote ="Tartanbull"When was the last time L*eds were drawn away against Super League opposition??
June 1804 by my reckoning.
ALWAYS DRAWN AT HOME'"
Whats your point? shouldn't you be concerned with your useless team at the moment.
You can't possibly believe there's a conspiracy can you?
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| Really ed off with the draw. It's not that I don't want us to play a strong team, it's just that I can't afford two trips to France in three weeks.
The last Bulls first team game I missed was also a fourth round CC game, that was 1997 though and at least I had 9 hours at double time to console me!!
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| Quote ="AndreaB"Really vexed off with the draw. It's not that I don't want us to play a strong team, it's just that I can't afford two trips to France in three weeks.
The last Bulls first team game I missed was also a fourth round CC game, that was 1997 though and at least I had 9 hours at double time to console me!!'"
QED.
Andrea is about as committed a Bulls fan as you are ever likely to come across and I can quite imagine how she'll feel about this.
I rest my case, m'lud.
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| Quote ="Tartanbull"When was the last time L*eds were drawn away against Super League opposition??
June 1804 by my reckoning.
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Are you saying they have an easy draw?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Are you saying they have an easy draw?
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He didn't. Maybe you think so?
Easier and more lucrative financially than had they had been drawn away.
That WAS the point the poster was making, wasn't it?
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| Quote ="Tartanbull"When was the last time L*eds were drawn away against Super League opposition??
June 1804 by my reckoning.
ALWAYS DRAWN AT HOME'"
Last year?
Against Quins?
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