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| Quote ="mystic eddie"How did Worrincy play?
PS, Sheriffe was awful as usual.
Otherwise an outstanding team performance overall.'"
That unfair on Sheriffe IMO his finishing isn't there but he makes a lot of ground on the first or second drive last night, This is invaluable as it saves the forwards for shirley bashing.
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| Quote ="af"I propose a RAB policy of confronting those who irrationally abuse Platt at games. If people want to voice their frustrations when he knocks on etc, fair enough. But having his name read in the starting line up...
Next up, getting my Michael Platt/Thundercats song going.
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When he gets abuse for walking onto the field etc I do often shout loudly that "he's done nowt wrong". Trouble is he often makes up for it minutes later!
Joking apart he gets dogs abuse for mistakes that are seemingly allowed for other players.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
Joking apart he gets dogs abuse for mistakes that are seemingly allowed for other players.'"
I agree with that. If Sam or Menzies knock on they get Unlucky etc. When Platt knocks on it's "What's that idiot doing on the pitch"
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"That unfair on Sheriffe IMO his finishing isn't there but he makes a lot of ground on the first or second drive last night, This is invaluable as it saves the forwards for shirley bashing.'"
If Sheriffe made as many meters forward as he does sideways he would be the best winger in super league, unfortunately he doesnt.
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| Quote ="Richard_bull"If Sheriffe made as many meters forward as he does sideways he would be the best winger in super league, unfortunately he doesnt.'"
At least two of those sideways runs were part of setting up tries last night.
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| Quote ="Richard_bull"If Sheriffe made as many meters forward as he does sideways he would be the best winger in super league, unfortunately he doesnt.'"
Did you ever have a problem when Robbie Paul, Leon Pryce or Vainikolo did that to create opportunities?
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| Looks like the scapegoat hat has been passed from Platt to Sheriffe?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Looks like the scapegoat hat has been passed from Platt to Sheriffe?'"
Yup.
I'm no fan of Sheriffe. In fact, I don't think he's nearly good enough. But I don't get criticising him for things that helped set up tries last night. Two of those sideways runs resulted in the ball coming in off the touchline and being switched to the left side for tries.
While I agree he sometimes does it a bit too much, I don't think it's right to criticise if last night when it clearly worked.
Right up there with criticising Platt for missing a tackle when he made some very good ones and had an all round very good game.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Looks like the scapegoat hat has been passed from Platt to Sheriffe?'"
Not at all they are both rubbish, both didnt do much wrong last nite but they are still not very good, and always will be average players.
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| tevita vaikona was also very good at sidewards running to get the defence more broken.
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| Quote ="Richard_bull"If Sheriffe made as many meters forward as he does sideways he would be the best winger in super league, unfortunately he doesnt.'"
Its all the great Iestyn Harris did at Leeds
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Did you ever have a problem when Robbie Paul, Leon Pryce or Vainikolo did that to create opportunities?'"
and Stuart Spruce and Mickey Withers.
Ricky isn`t a Vaikona or a Vainikolo but he`s busting a gut to be the best Sheriffe he can be. He`s a much better player than the one who started the season which shows he`s putting the effort in, and on that basis he deserves our support imo.
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| Come on, you guys cannot be serious with this thread. The guy has had two ok games at best!!!
He came to Odsal with very good potential but unfortunately has shown himselve to be a bloody idiot (he looses his head far too much for very little reason imo) with a very average game!!!
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| well, just for a bit of information.
according to the [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=errors&hs1=2009&hp1=1720&hs2=2009&hp2=206Super League Website[/url the top offender for errors for Bradford this year is.........
Steve Menzies. He's 5th overall with 32.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"well, just for a bit of information.
according to the [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=errors&hs1=2009&hp1=1720&hs2=2009&hp2=206Super League Website[/url the top offender for errors for Bradford this year is.........
Steve Menzies. He's 5th overall with 32.'"
He is a right loser that Menzies. I don't know why we signed him.
Waste of space.
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| Quote ="debaser"He is a right loser that Menzies. I don't know why we signed him.
Waste of space.'" I feel embarrassed for the Bulls. Steve is a legend in our game but Bradford have signed a dinosaur here. He was released by Manly because of salary cap restrictions, but if they thought he was still worth something he would be sunning himself on Manly beach today.
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| Quote ="chunkyhugo"I feel embarrassed for the Bulls. Steve is a legend in our game but Bradford have signed a dinosaur here. He was released by Manly because of salary cap restrictions, but if they thought he was still worth something he would be sunning himself on Manly beach today.'"
Whooosh!
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| Quote ="chunkyhugo"I feel embarrassed for the Bulls. Steve is a legend in our game but Bradford have signed a dinosaur here. He was released by Manly because of salary cap restrictions, but if they thought he was still worth something he would be sunning himself on Manly beach today.'"
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| Quote ="chunkyhugo"I feel embarrassed for the Bulls. Steve is a legend in our game but Bradford have signed a dinosaur here. He was released by Manly because of salary cap restrictions, but if they thought he was still worth something he would be sunning himself on Manly beach today.'"
Welcome to Rugby League. We hope you enjoy our game and continue to be a fan.
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| Quote ="chunkyhugo"I feel embarrassed for the Bulls. Steve is a legend in our game but Bradford have signed a dinosaur here. He was released by Manly because of salary cap restrictions, but if they thought he was still worth something he would be sunning himself on Manly beach today.'"
Im embarrassed too. But not for the Bulls.
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| Quote ="Ancient Provocateur"Come on tigs, show us your love for Super Deacs as well. Unlucky no-try for mine. Bossed the show from start to finish.'"
The Deacs no try was dodgy when you kick a drop goal it bounces before you kick it so why can't you do that with a grubber, for me it was touch and go.
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| Did his boot hit the ball at the same time the ball hit the deck? If not it's a knock on.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Did his boot hit the ball at the same time the ball hit the deck? If not it's a knock on.'"
Correct, and the ball hit the floor first.
In all honesty, while watching the game, I thought it was a knock-on right from the start, before they'd even gone to any replay. That convinced me enough that it was the right decision. To me (and I appreciate others can't go from this), that said there must have been more to it than a normal kick.
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| Quote ="Nothus"It wasn't a voluntary tackle.
For it to be classed as a voluntary, Hodgson would have had to go down to the floor, get up and then play the ball without a bulls player laying a finger on him.
Brett was still on the floor when Platt picked him up and threw him over the line. Had he left him to get up and play it, then yes it would have been a voluntary.
Hope that helped.'"
It helped to prove you don't know the rule!
Quote "A player in possession shall not deliberately and
unnecessarily allow himself to be tackled by
voluntarily falling to the ground when not held by an
opponent. If a player drops on a loose ball he shall
not remain on the ground waiting to be tackled if he
has time to regain his feet and continue play. "'"
I agree with you that the [iinterpretation[/i which (presumably) the refs have directed is to wait if necessary forever while the player lies there. But under the rules as printed, it ought to have been a penalty to Bradford.
The ref called a pen as he reckoned the player was tackled as soon as Platt laid a hand on him. Which he was, but if the ref was playing by the rule as written, he would already have given Bradford the pen for the player having voluntarily allowed that situation to occur.
The scenario ("shall not remain on the ground" CLEARLY means that it should be a pen if you do remain on the ground waiting to be tackled, in fact if you then after 5 minutes get up before the ref blows his whistle, then he can no longer penalise you for a VT, it's too late. (Unless you're dumb enough to do a PTB, of course)
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