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| Unbelievable, so Hull are helping us out by getting Carvell and Gales wage off the payroll.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"You seem more upset than the Bradford fans.'"
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"It is isn't it, we'll do the honourable thing and get the business done early doors even chucking a few quid their way while you'll look to exploit any loophole you can in order to take their players for free with practically no chance of replacing them less than a week before they kick off the season.
Just compounding their troubles, shameful behaviour really.
If you want them then I'm sure they'll happily take fees for both given how far down the track you've taken it with their players.'"
poore and cockayne were contracted to wakefield, their assets, you removed them from wakefield, no difference to what we are doing and you only paid for one of them
have sympathy for the bulls fans, but not for the club, they did it to us with vaikona and radford, albeit different owners, what comes around goes around as they say
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| Didn't the RFL put a ban on clubs poaching our players the last time we were going through a change of ownership? I don't know why the same can't be done now. If this new guy who's making an offer to buy the club happens to be loaded (please let him be loaded!) then all our financial worries could be over soon and there'd be no need for players to be worried about being paid. According to the T&A there is a 28 day period after admin for any new offers to buy the club, we should get at least that amount of time protection against the vultures.
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| I agree with an earlier comment re Gale, is he contracted or not following Tupe? also seems strange to have him answering questions at season launch dinner on Saturday then considering future. he has also been offered a new contract to counter Hull interest, this must have been sorted before Sat night. Just seems strange timing, there must have been other players available for sat night
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| Quote ="Dave K."As far as I know, if you release a player before he has played a game in the season, it doesn't count on the cap.'"
I do love the way people talk of players being 'released' in such a casual manner.
There are two sides to any contract and if the player being 'released' doesn't get another offer, equal or better than the one he already has, he has every right to decline the generous offer of being 'released'. Players can't be released without their consent - except in a very few exceptional circumstances, which would take a court or an RFL enquiry at least to decide. Why would any player being dumped, just accept it to suit the club?
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| Quote ="Cows"Didn't the RFL put a ban on clubs poaching our players the last time we were going through a change of ownership? I don't know why the same can't be done now. If this new guy who's making an offer to buy the club happens to be loaded (please let him be loaded!) then all our financial worries could be over soon and there'd be no need for players to be worried about being paid. According to the T&A there is a 28 day period after admin for any new offers to buy the club, we should get at least that amount of time protection against the vultures.'"
I think it was more of mutual agreement between clubs at the time as you have no real right to obstruct the players that way. As fans we often forget this is the players job and their livelihood we're talking about.
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"Hull tried to sign the 25-year-old at the start of pre-season, only for their offer to be knocked back" doesn't sound like we offered him to Hull at all?
"But with Hull now able to make the most of Bradford's financial woes and take Gale for free rather than pay a fee" - Classy.
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"Hull tried to sign the 25-year-old at the start of pre-season, only for their offer to be knocked back" doesn't sound like we offered him to Hull at all?
"But with Hull now able to make the most of Bradford's financial woes and take Gale for free rather than pay a fee" - Classy.
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| Quote ="feebleweasel""Hull tried to sign the 25-year-old at the start of pre-season, only for their offer to be knocked back" doesn't sound like we offered him to Hull at all?
"But with Hull now able to make the most of Bradford's financial woes and take Gale for free rather than pay a fee" - Classy.'"
"Hull tried to sign the 25-year-old at the start of pre-season, only for their offer to be knocked back. [uIt's understood the Bulls then offered the ex-London pivot to Hull last month, only for coach Lee Radford to turn the West Yorkshire club down due to the arrival of Aussie stand-off Jordan Rankin[/u."
You appear to have stopped reading just before the bit I've underlined.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC""Hull tried to sign the 25-year-old at the start of pre-season, only for their offer to be knocked back. [uIt's understood the Bulls then offered the ex-London pivot to Hull last month, only for coach Lee Radford to turn the West Yorkshire club down due to the arrival of Aussie stand-off Jordan Rankin[/u."
You appear to have stopped reading just before the bit I've underlined.'"
You're right. So now I'm thinking you don't actually need him but are taking him for free just because you can? Good luck in the future and here's hoping you continue to win nothing in the future.
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| Word on the Hull board now is Gale is staying with us
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have sympathy for the bulls fans, but not for the club, they did it to us with vaikona and radford, albeit different owners, what comes around goes around as they say'"
Oh dear, you need really need to move on.
Or people will start talking about Gateshead, and then it will get people all angry about the inconsistency of the RFL all over again.
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| Quote ="debaser"Oh dear, you need really need to move on.
Or people will start talking about Gateshead, and then it will get people all angry about the inconsistency of the RFL all over again.'"
Can someone tell me what happened about the gateshead /hull situation please,before my time ? Thanks.
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| Quote ="debaser"Oh dear, you need really need to move on.
Or people will start talking about Gateshead, and then it will get people all angry about the inconsistency of the RFL all over again.'"
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| Quote ="roger daly"Unbelievable, so Hull are helping us out by getting Carvell and Gales wage off the payroll.'"
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| Bearing in mind i would rather have you lot of Hull fans on here instead of your typical Wakie fan(not all),I'll take that with the contempt it deserves
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| I'm not a hull or wakefield fan.
You might not like the taste it leaves losing players , but ultimately if/when players leave it saves you money as you're not paying their wages.
Rightly or wrongly a good number of fans I've spoken to regarding the "Bradford situation" feel very bitter about the way the whole thing has been handled and some view the dismantling of the team and/or a points deduction as being a kind of summary justice or the club taking its medicine. The bulls brand has been damaged badly and will take a long time to get it back to where it was and I think they're almost at bottom point so should start to be able to look up within the next month or so.
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| Quote ="deslawson"Can someone tell me what happened about the gateshead /hull situation please,before my time ? Thanks.'"
Gateshead Thunder played in the early days of SL. Unfortunately, as it seems to be usual case, this attempt at an expansion club didn't take off meaning the club had spiraling debt and so was "merged" with Hull FC. That's merged in the way that Hull FC stayed an SL club, got a big wad of cash of SL and helped themselves to Gateshead's players
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Gateshead Thunder played in the early days of SL. Unfortunately, as it seems to be usual case, this attempt at an expansion club didn't take off meaning the club had spiraling debt and so was "merged" with Hull FC. That's merged in the way that Hull FC stayed an SL club, got a big wad of cash of SL and helped themselves to Gateshead's players'"
Maybe you should have hd a look at some of DL's posts before responding, although the before his time bit was probably the truth
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"I'm not a hull or wakefield fan.
You might not like the taste it leaves losing players , but ultimately if/when players leave it saves you money as you're not paying their wages.
Rightly or wrongly a good number of fans I've spoken to regarding the "Bradford situation" feel very bitter about the way the whole thing has been handled and some view the dismantling of the team and/or a points deduction as being a kind of summary justice or the club taking its medicine. The bulls brand has been damaged badly and will take a long time to get it back to where it was and I think they're almost at bottom point so should start to be able to look up within the next month or so.'"
Sorry I thought you was a Hull fan.Im sure everyone agrees the last 18 months ?? or so have been pretty shambolic. We were docked 6 points for going into admin and new company not paying old ones debts,also 1.2 million taken from new company for not paying old ones debts.But RFL thought it better every other club should get extra 100k over 2 years instead of the 1.2 million going to pay off old companies debts.So I guess the rules are made up as we go along
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| It certainly feels like the rules are made up as they go along. The sport desperately needs a clear and honest statement from the RFL (no matter how bad or unfair it may seem) as to the help they have or have not given to clubs. Only then will people be able to move on; we're a minority sport and can ill afford all this in house fighting, mistrust and hatred.
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| According to reporters Carvell is today training and undergoing fitness tests at Hull FCC training ground seems certain he is gone now.
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| Quote ="feebleweasel""Hull tried to sign the 25-year-old at the start of pre-season, only for their offer to be knocked back" doesn't sound like we offered him to Hull at all?
"But with Hull now able to make the most of Bradford's financial woes and take Gale for free rather than pay a fee" - Classy.'" Payback is a bitch just like when we were in the and you took McNamara, vaikona and Radford imo you should have been relegated last season and you should have definitely been this season, how many years was you spending over the salary cap for it to come to this
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"Gateshead Thunder played in the early days of SL. Unfortunately, as it seems to be usual case, this attempt at an expansion club didn't take off meaning the club had spiraling debt and so was "merged" with Hull FC. That's merged in the way that Hull FC stayed an SL club, got a big wad of cash of SL and helped themselves to Gateshead's players'"
Appreciated,just googled it. It seems hull fc just used gateshead to survive.
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