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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Okay. You said SL to begin with not RL. And tbf all he has to do is catch and run, and run the ball in early in the tackle count. It won't really take that much adjusting.'"
but you clearly understood what he ment. you're not stupid. you're just arguing for the sake of it. like that monty python arguement sketch. you're just automatically naysaying anything the other person has to say
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"but you clearly understood what he ment. you're not stupid. you're just arguing for the sake of it. like that monty python arguement sketch. you're just automatically naysaying anything the other person has to say'"
Maybe.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"but you clearly understood what he ment. you're not stupid. you're just arguing for the sake of it. like that monty python arguement sketch. you're just automatically naysaying anything the other person has to say'"
No he's not...
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Sorry though we were doing the MP sketch...?
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"but you clearly understood what he ment. you're not stupid. you're just arguing for the sake of it. like that monty python arguement sketch. you're just automatically naysaying anything the other person has to say'" I thought that was another persons job on here.
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| Sounds a fishy business to me.
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| How different are the two positions in reality? A union wing and a league wing?
Granted its about learning plays and attacking moves etc (won't take long at the Bulls to be fair will it? ) but the actual role must be pretty similar.
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| Quote ="debaser"How different are the two positions in reality? A union wing and a league wing?
Granted its about learning plays and attacking moves etc (won't take long at the Bulls to be fair will it?
) but the actual role must be pretty similar.'" The main difference is that a Union winger doesn't get bombarded by high kicks to the corners like a league winger does.
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| Quote ="redeverready"The main difference is that a Union winger doesn't get bombarded by high kicks to the corners like a league winger does.'"
Also the union winger doesn't take the ball into contact anywhere near as much and I'd also say that they have less to do in contact defence although more in positional defence (if that makes sense.) However, the 2 are certainly more similar now than they used to be and it's probably the easiest position to move codes in.
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| If we can't play trialists in first team games then we wait to see if he's any good in the reserves then offer him a Rinaldi style contract to test him in the 1st team.
I can't see what we lose by giving the bloke a go.
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| The most annoying thing about this Rudd story is the Sportinglife RSS.
Anyone who uses it will probably be having the same annoyance I'm having where the Rudd story keep popping up every 10 bloody minutes or so as if it's a new story!
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| Quote ="redeverready"I thought that was another persons job on here.'"
No you didn't
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| Quote ="Block5Bull"Also the union winger doesn't take the ball into contact anywhere near as much and I'd also say that they have less to do in contact defence although more in positional defence (if that makes sense.) However, the 2 are certainly more similar now than they used to be and it's probably the easiest position to move codes in.'"
Yes it makes sense, and agree with the general simaralities.
A guy of 6ft and 17 stone could make the transition easier depending on his attitude.
Rudd has long term pedigree, not a has been or never was. Not a wilting violet and been in some top games and had pressure v top opposition.
Current regular player at a RU Premiership Club, and whatever the introverted diehards think, this is a high standard
Dont know what he's like under a high ball but he won't get bounced out of the way.
Big and strong enough to do work in the mid field
Not yet talking him up but hey, his history tells us he might have something to offer better that our current wingers... which in honesty wont take a lot of beating.
Just like him to get the odd pass fron his centres. Lack of which, as expected, might cheese him off.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle" something to offer better that our current wingers... which in honesty wont take a lot of beating.
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That's not fair on -the ever hard-working- Tadulala imo.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"That's not fair on -the ever hard-working- Tadulala imo.'"
Yes I agree he always works hard and is honest in his efforts and I really like the guy, he's a gentleman.
But he's neither a winger that has geat pace or guile to beat a defence on his own or altenatively the physical power to bash though them. He's a good finisher when set up. The same lack of attributes make him of limited value when spelling mid field forward runs.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"Yes I agree he always works hard and is honest in his efforts and I really like the guy, he's a gentleman.
But he's neither a winger that has geat pace or guile to beat a defence on his own or altenatively the physical power to bash though them. He's a good finisher when set up. The same lack of attributes make him of limited value when spelling mid field forward runs.'"
I think his physical power is one of his major attributes, he could teach our props a thing or two as he never takes a backwards step
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| How did he get on? Anyone see?
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| Quote ="debaser"How did he get on? Anyone see?'"
He got sin-binned in the first ten minutes. I left at half time, he didn't get another touvh on the ball, buthe was switched Wings so that he could attempt to tackle Pryce who was on fire.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"He got sin-binned in the first ten minutes. I left at half time, he didn't get another touvh on the ball, buthe was switched Wings so that he could attempt to tackle Pryce who was on fire.'"
I'm liking the sound of him already.
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| He's a big unit. Imagine Jon Scales but bigger.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"He's a big unit. Imagine Jon Scales but bigger.'"
And hopefully better?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"And hopefully better?'"
He didn't get much chance to show his stuff.
One thing that annoyed me about the reserves game was our unprofessional approach. Whoever coaches them needs a slap.
No way should we have players running onto the field just before kick off pulling there jerseys on in dribs and drabs. The 13 should be all on the pitch stripped and ready and concentrating. The slack approach cost us two early tries. While Wigan were obviously the better side they'd warmed up for longer and looked a far more professional outfit in their drills and looked up for it.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"He didn't get much chance to show his stuff.
One thing that annoyed me about the reserves game was our unprofessional approach. Whoever coaches them needs a slap.
No way should we have players running onto the field just before kick off pulling there jerseys on in dribs and drabs. The 13 should be all on the pitch stripped and ready and concentrating. The slack approach cost us two early tries. While Wigan were obviously the better side they'd warmed up for longer and looked a far more professional outfit in their drills and looked up for it.'"
Are you sure you were watching the reserve game?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"He's a big unit. Imagine Jon Scales but bigger.'"
Scales wasn't small was he?
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| Stayed to watched the reserves to try and cheer myself up with the fact that the future is bright, unfortunately we got thrashed! Defence was a big problem with the reserves as well and Wigan made easy yards all match.
I thought Hyde played ok in attack in a beaten team but looked a little suspect in defence. He's probably not quite ready for SL on that showing at least. Rudd was big and powerful with quite a turn of pace for a big man, however his defence looked a little suspect. He was blowing a bit towards the end too so a bit of work there as well. But he looks like he could be a handful if those area's can be improved.
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