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| Yes, sorry, I havent explained "standardised". Most of the stats are per game but errors are per carry as I thought that was more relevant, and missed tackles is a % of tackles made, again more relevant and a useful stat alongside the tackles per game. And yes even standardised the stats still need to be read carefully, as standardising some of the stats by time on pitch rather than game would be better, Donaldson for example is down as playing a whole game this week which has destroyed his stats as he hardly had time to do anything before injury.
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| Good stuff Martin. How do I fit it onto my screen, some of the stats are behind the sponsors logos on the right. Is my laptop too small?
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| Same here on an iPad. Thanks for pulling this together though it's awesome
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| Martin - that's excellent, Keep it up, these stats will improve in average worth over longer periods.
In response to your request for comments, I would suggest you switch columns "metres per carry" and "carries" for clarity of sequence.
There might be further clarity between columns "attacking kicks" and "meters" as there seems some confusion there.
Would be good to see a subset of reasons for "penalties" if this could be done.
You might also explain what circumstances explain a missed tackle.
For the guys who do not have a 22" monitor you might think about also providing an abbreviated version.
I'm not sure that the % Available, % Selected and % Played has any consequence to the playing stats
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| right click the image on the post and use the save image or copy image command, then save in Word so you can re-size to your requirements.
MyuncleBob, thanks for the feedback, will look at the column switch. The attacking kicks (as opposed to kicks in general play) is next to metres carried as in my opinion the metres gained by a good kick are just as good as metres gained by a carry, I think the pack would say even better. unfortunately the metres gained by attacking kicks is not given so the number is the next best thing. But if there is universal outcry I will alter it. Unfortunately I cannot get to many games and it would need someone who does to keep a tally of the reasons for penalties and missed tackles every game. But you are right, it is the sort of further information that throws light on a players performance. some penalties are point savers, others are stupid point givers, big difference.
the % played is relevant to see who is in favour, but even more important, whether a player has been at match fitness or speed, call it what you want, which is different from physically fit. Langleys stats last season imo show the consequences of his injuries, he never really got up to his previous standards. And if the least experienced of one of the players in a position eg Obrien has played 100%, is that simply because those above have not been injured or because he is so d****d good hes pinched the spot.
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| Can someone help me see all columns on iPad? I have copied image but not having Word or equiv, I am a bit stuck. Really want to benefit from MWB's hard work. Cheers
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| which is the last column you can see on the right? I will use that to cut the size of the image down so it fits. or if you have excel and want the spreadsheet message me your email address and I will send it to you, Bullseye i sent you a message along those lines too, but its stuck in teh outbox.
I have just added a calculation for the current round, and a comparison of this years cumulative stats with the last 2 years. That shows for example that Hargreaves has upped his stats on offence and defence so far this year and his b***s up stats have improved, difficult as they were very good anyway. and that even the "youngsters" have accumulated quite a bit of experience, and how bad last year was for Platt vs the previous year.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Good stuff Martin. How do I fit it onto my screen, some of the stats are behind the sponsors logos on the right. Is my laptop too small?'"
Just use the zoom out function in the view menu
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| Quote ="staffbull1973"Can someone help me see all columns on iPad? I have copied image but not having Word or equiv, I am a bit stuck. Really want to benefit from MWB's hard work. Cheers'"
You can copy the image to Photos and view it from there. Press and hold on the image and choose the first option
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| just cut the image size down, has that improved viewability?
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| Quote ="Steam Pig"Just use the zoom out function in the view menu'"
Cheers, I'll try that when I get my PC set up. The laptop I'm using has the browser set up without a vew menu or any other sort of menu! In short it's a pain in the backside!
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| gale is a very good kicker i taught him
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| Thank you AJW, works perfectly
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| latest cumulative stats. basically a shortage of tackles in the forwards - Joseph made 9 this week versus Donaldson/Sibbit in the 40's - and missed tackles in particular the backs where Purtell and Walker were very much missed defensively and a lot more pressure was put on our wings as their missed tackle rates went up. errors per carry were higher from Joseph Burgess Whitehead and Sammut. not a good game for Lulia and joseph to make their debuts. hargreaves and Scruton keep upping their tackles a game. Langley performing consistently well across the stats. The one other conclusion from the stats is that Wigan were a much much better side than Cas playing a weaker and less match fit side than the round 2 Bulls team.
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| cumulative data after Wakefield. I have taken the Dream Team 2011 players stats and added those as a benchmark for ours as an average per position. For the props the DT average is massively lifted by James Grahams astonishing stats, Carvells were nowhere as good. The one player that for this season is at or arguably better than the dreamteam stats for their postion is Jamie Langley. his stats are an improvement on last year, but still below 2010, so there could be even more to come from him. Other encouraging signs from the stats against Wakefield are Jason Crookes performance which in meters was getting up to DT standards, Hargreaves who if he keeps his Wakefield performance going will have stepped up as he said he would, and Kearney metres made was a big step up from previously. Areas of concern the centres where we need a settled pair, tho against wakie Platt and Lulia both improved massively particularly tackling, and only having 2 props Hargreaves and Koppy playing anywhere near standard. 2nd row doesnt need mentioning with the disruptions there. effects of injury are still showing in Scrutons and L'Estranges stats when compared with previous years, so definitely more to come from them. Bateman has upped his work rate over last year but lowered his errors and missed tackle rate, and his tackle bust rate is equal best with Kearney, if he can continue that he will fully realise the potential behind the hype.
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| Like that, the addition of the Dream Team stats is a great addition to give some comparison. Good skills.
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| Interesting that Langley superior in every department to dream team LF.
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| why is platt classed as a fullback when he's played all this years games as a ? I know he's technically a FB but would be more logical to put him with the where hes playing.
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| The classification is per the Bulls website squad designation. It is purely a starting point and can be flexed according to what actually happens. Platt is in essence a utility player and will play where he is told, for example full back should Kearney be injured. So yes I agree, it needs to be kept under review as to the actual position played.
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| Round 5 stats below. team 2012 and 2011 with points per game for and against added at the bottom.
Team stats are still showing the Cats. and Pies games or to put it the other way the last two games have resulted in a big improvement in the averages, to the extent that the points per game difference is positive, and even with those two games the points against is four points per game less this season than last, 10 points per game less if you take just the last two. We have covered Lynchs tackles well enough, the missed tackle % is less than last season, but not until the last game or so matched his go forward, offloads etc, but with mnm up to speed that should be covered. with Lulia and Purtell back the points should improve, our top two try scorers at the moment are a full back and a 2nd row not centre or winger.
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| Stats after round 7. conditional formatting applied to selected players, green=better than dreamteam player for that stat. some stats limited by game time eg Burgess. not sure if more tackles than dreamteam is a good thing as it implies we are doing more defending, but left it anyway as missed tackle % supplements it.
Nothing much between Salfords stats so far and ours, probably most significant area is they have a lower missed tackle and errors/carry rate, tho ours better for recent games. Not an easy game for us.
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| You can sort of see why Saints are missing James Roby.
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| Quote ="tigertot"You can sort of see why Saints are missing James Roby.'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"You can say that again!'"
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| and Graham. he was clear of every other props stats by a massive margin, the other prop in that dream team average is Carvell, whose stats are more like our better props. So I dont see any of our front row getting any where near the dreamteam this season. It does illustrates the problems of having star players you spend a lot of cap on suddenly not there, spreading the cap around may make a duller team but a more consistent one.
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