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| i put Brett in , casue i dont want to see him get hammered , but i dont expect him to win. and would rather he was playing for the Bulls. and a few players that might not be the best but would either organise a team or bring attention. got to wonder if teams like Warrington, saints and wigan that could have a lot of players england and exiles out will say?
W Mason
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T Puletua
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| All teams listed above seem infinately better than England.
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| Please stop voting for Morrison. I know some of you like him from his bulls days but another injury to our weak squad will only make things worse.
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| Quote ="supercat"Please stop voting for Morrison. I know some of you like him from his bulls days but another injury to our weak squad will only make things worse.'"
I don't think you've got too much to worry about, I don't think he'll win the vote.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"All teams listed above seem infinately better than England.'"
I disagree, all those I've highlighted below, taken from Mission's team, are not/no longer international class & would struggle to get in the England team. Not that it shouldn't be a cracking game, providing the Exiles are committed:
B Hodgson
F Meli
M King
G Carmont
P Richards
R Chase
T Leuluai
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S Menzies
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| Hodgson
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Puletua
Faiumu
Menzies
O' Donnell
Interesting to see that Menzies currently has more votes than someone like Hoffman, and I can't understand why Faiumu only has 5% of the votes so far - the guy is quality!
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| I think this is an excellent idea, got to increase the number of competitive international level games if England are going to improve. I was disappointed they dropped the State of County idea years back as it seemed a good way of increasing the games they play as a group.
Would be better to have a proper break though as it starts all this club vs country debate. Sooner they change back to GB the better aswell, would save me feeling dirty supporting England!
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| Quote ="jockabull"I think this is an excellent idea, got to increase the number of competitive international level games if England are going to improve. I was disappointed they dropped the State of County idea years back as it seemed a good way of increasing the games they play as a group.
Would be better to have a proper break though as it starts all this club vs country debate. Sooner they change back to GB the better aswell, would save me feeling dirty supporting England!'"
origin was hard to fit into a busy season. some sort of origin for the U20's as a season ender could be worth watching. it gives the young lads something to play for and an opportunity to experience a higher intensity match.
would be worth having it as a curtain raiser for any international match IMO.
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| from a purely selfish bulls point of view hope kearney doesnt get in squad. On that note I'm going to vote for every possible saints player with our game against them shorty after the exiles game in mind
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| I'd personally like to see them try to make up a team by picking 1 player from each team plus 3 coaches picks. Might not be the strongest team and would probably take some thinking about but it would create a bit of interest for every club.
From a bulls point of view, it looks like we won't have a player in either team. Not sure about anyone else but my interest in international games increases if a bulls player is involved. I'm sure supporters of other teams may think on similar lines.
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"Not sure about anyone else but my interest in international games increases if a bulls player is involved. I'm sure supporters of other teams may think on similar lines.'"
Not for me, but then I've always seen International RL as a different thing.
Sadly, 90% of supporters don't. In fact, it infuriates me when I attend internationals (and I go to most) and all you can hear is people cheering on players that play for their clubs, and ignoring others. Even to the point where some will slag off their rival club's players, even though they're playing for England too.
That sort of attitude doesn't exist in sports with thriving International games (at least not from the majority anyway).
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Not for me, but then I've always seen International RL as a different thing.
Sadly, 90% of supporters don't. In fact, it infuriates me when I attend internationals (and I go to most) and all you can hear is people cheering on players that play for their clubs, and ignoring others. Even to the point where some will slag off their rival club's players, even though they're playing for England too.
That sort of attitude doesn't exist in sports with thriving International games (at least not from the majority anyway).'"
Know exactly what you mean but its certainly not as I view it. I've watch internationals at Headingly before. The large family of Leeds fans stood infront of me boo'd every time a Bulls player got the ball, which was quite often as we had Peacock, Fielden and co at the Bulls at that time. It totally spoilt the game for me. Not because they didn't like Bradford but because I couldn't believe people could be so petty. It was England playing.
I must admit that an England team comprising only Wigan, Leeds and saints players doesn't have the same appeal to me as one which has a few other club representatives. I'd Still support them the same though.
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| Who are we playing after that game? I'll vote for players from that team then.
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| It's Saints, so get voting for Saints players.
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| Quote ="debaser"It's Saints, so get voting for Saints players.'"
Please vote for Meli! We won't have to play him then!
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| Surely, the more cynical fan will log on and vote for players from rival teams and leave out his own team players in order to provide a disadvantage to other teams.
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| The coach still has 9 picks for the 22 man squad and then is free to pick the 17 he wants from that. The voting is only for 13 of the 22. Should make up for any weird voting. Its just a gimmick in the end and I don't think it will limit the coach's choice too much.
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| Can see England getting a tonking personally.
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| While I love seeing Bulls get rep honours, I wouldn't be dismayed if we didn't feature in this, just as long as we take advantage by doing Saints on the Sunday.
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| I've gone for:
Hodgson
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King
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Richards
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| Quote ="Sensei-Bull"Know exactly what you mean but its certainly not as I view it. I've watch internationals at Headingly before. The large family of Leeds fans stood infront of me boo'd every time a Bulls player got the ball, which was quite often as we had Peacock, Fielden and co at the Bulls at that time. It totally spoilt the game for me. Not because they didn't like Bradford but because I couldn't believe people could be so petty. It was England playing.
I must admit that an England team comprising only Wigan, Leeds and saints players doesn't have the same appeal to me as one which has a few other club representatives. I'd Still support them the same though.'"
That sort of scenario is exactly what I was meaning yeah. It's moronic for people to boo England players just because they come from a club that they don't like. When playing for their club sides, I don't care at all for the likes of Senior, McGuire and Long. But when they pulled on an England shirt, they got every support from me at the match. As I say, you don't see it from anything but a small minority at Football, Cricket or Yawnion (and I've attended internationals for football & cricket before so have first hand knowledge).
I do take your point though about one of your own players being there. It does fill you with a slight sense of pride because he comes from your side and makes it a little more interesting because you want him to do well. I suppose it's a toned down version of if it was a member of your family playing. You're bound to be a little more interested in him.
It's just a shame the idiots take it so far that they're the only players they'll cheer for.
I've ordered my tickets for the Exiles match anyway. And all being well, will be attending the 4 Nations matches involving England too. (and maybe even one of the other games depending on finances). And I'll be there cheering on all the England boys, even the likes of Sam Tomkins who is one of the most unlikeable little sh*ts in the league!
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Quote ="tigertot"I disagree, all those I've highlighted below, taken from Mission's team, are not/no longer international class & would struggle to get in the England team. Not that it shouldn't be a cracking game, providing the Exiles are committed:
B Hodgson
F Meli
M King
G Carmont
P Richards
R Chase
T Leuluai
K Leuluai
D Buderus
W Mason
S Menzies
G Morrison
C Fitzgibbon'"
Just having a look on different forums, having a nosey at who would pick what.
I know I would have Hodgeson over Widdop anyday. And Fitzgibbon not in England team? He certainly outshines our current 13's stats.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
On another note, looking forward to our game tomorrow!
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B Hodgson
F Meli
M King
G Carmont
P Richards
R Chase
T Leuluai
K Leuluai
D Buderus
W Mason
S Menzies
G Morrison
C Fitzgibbon'"
Just having a look on different forums, having a nosey at who would pick what.
I know I would have Hodgeson over Widdop anyday. And Fitzgibbon not in England team? He certainly outshines our current 13's stats.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
On another note, looking forward to our game tomorrow!
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"
I know I would have Hodgeson over Widdop anyday.'"
Except it wouldn't be Hodgson over Widdop. It would be Hodgson over Tomkins I would think? Sam Tomkins has been playing fullback for Wigan and Widdop has been playing 6 for Melbourne. Granted, McNamara is probably stupid enough to play them the other way around, but common sense would have Sam Tomkins as fullback for England.
Quote ="tommyfromhull"And Fitzgibbon not in England team? He certainly outshines our current 13's stats.'"
While Fitzgibbon is no doubt a great player (and I picked him in my Exiles side), the one position England are blessed with plenty of quality is the back row, so I'd have no problem with him not being picked if he was eligible.
As well as that, in both cases you need to look at the age too. Hodgson & Fitzgibbon are coming to the back end of their careers now, whereas the likes of Tomkins, Widdop and other backrow options are younger and are likely to be in the team for longer, so better options long term.
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Quote ="tommyfromhull"Just having a look on different forums, having a nosey at who would pick what.
I know I would have Hodgeson over Widdop anyday. And Fitzgibbon not in England team? He certainly outshines our current 13's stats.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
On another note, looking forward to our game tomorrow!'"
You could pick an England player to match or better in every position, except possibly at 6 & maybe one of the threequarters depending on who is fit for England. We are not quite as strong as I anticipated as the likes Ellis & Burgess are not going to be released.
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Quote ="tommyfromhull"Just having a look on different forums, having a nosey at who would pick what.
I know I would have Hodgeson over Widdop anyday. And Fitzgibbon not in England team? He certainly outshines our current 13's stats.
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011
On another note, looking forward to our game tomorrow!'"
You could pick an England player to match or better in every position, except possibly at 6 & maybe one of the threequarters depending on who is fit for England. We are not quite as strong as I anticipated as the likes Ellis & Burgess are not going to be released.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Except it wouldn't be Hodgson over Widdop. It would be Hodgson over Tomkins I would think? Sam Tomkins has been playing fullback for Wigan and Widdop has been playing 6 for Melbourne. Granted, McNamara is probably stupid enough to play them the other way around, but common sense would have Sam Tomkins as fullback for England.'"
That's what I was getting at, McBanana has swpped Tomkins/Widdop around a lot! Granted I would give Tomkins the place over Hodgson, but he the former MOS is no player to be sniffed at.
Quote ="DILLIGAF"While Fitzgibbon is no doubt a great player (and I picked him in my Exiles side), the one position England are blessed with plenty of quality is the back row, so I'd have no problem with him not being picked if he was eligible.
As well as that, in both cases you need to look at the age too. Hodgson & Fitzgibbon are coming to the back end of their careers now, whereas the likes of Tomkins, Widdop and other backrow options are younger and are likely to be in the team for longer, so better options long term.'"
True about their ages, probably one thing which goes in the England players' favour, but by no stretch would Fitz ''struggle'' to get into England. However, Burgess and Ellis are ripping it up over there and I would choose Sinfield over O'Loughlin for 13 anyway!
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