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| Quote ="vbfg"It might still be in the 'to read' queue next to the RFL toilet.'"
Along with 'Framing the Future', 'Overseas player quotas and regulations', 'minimum criteria for acceptance into Super League', 'how not to give benefit of the doubt to the attacking side - confessions of several video referees'...
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| They gonna have to pay people to read his book and accusing the bulls players is pathetic just trying to take the blame off himself the big $hithead.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I reckon you are just being obtuse.'"
I[i may[/i be a [ilittle[/i overweight, but what's [ithat[/i got to do with it??
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"icon_evil.gif
I[i may[/i be a [ilittle[/i overweight, but what's [ithat[/i got to do with it??
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Huh?
Do you know what 'obtuse' means?
Quote ="bull4lyf"They gonna have to pay people to read his book and accusing the bulls players is pathetic just trying to take the blame off himself the big $hithead. '"
That's just daft. He isn't accusing anyone of anything. He says that both Saints and Bradford players put bets on. He also goes into great detail about his own bet and Gleeson's. They both got bans for it so he can hardly try and shift the blame!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Huh?
Do you know what 'obtuse' means?
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Whooooooooosh......!
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Huh?
Do you know what 'obtuse' means?
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| Quote ="ex Bull Dog"icon_biggrin.gifOH:'"
I know...methinks he's in for as good 'Varking pretty soon...!
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| Back on topic...and from the words that have been reported, the little wakner never actually said any Bulls players were "in on it". He said "Bradford". As in...could have been anyone.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Back on topic...and from the words that have been reported, the little wakner never actually said any Bulls players were "in on it". He said "Bradford". As in...could have been anyone.'"
My thoughts exactly. Provocative but hardly specific to players ofr the club.
Well pleased that Gleeson only got odds of 10/11.
Makes a mockery of the bleeding hearted bookies who reckon they were rooked. They must have know something was up.
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| Long always seemed to be under the impression he'd been treated harshly when in reality he and Gleeson should have been banned sine die.
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| Quote ="af"Long always seemed to be under the impression he'd been treated harshly when in reality he and Gleeson should have been banned sine die.'"
Historic long term bans in Football and Horse Racing.
RFL - a slap on the wrist for naughty boys.
Just about says it all.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Huh?
Do you know what 'obtuse' means?
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I don't know. I [ithink[/i I know. But then, I could be wrong. Is it something like "as terminally, anally thick as the contents of a fleet of container shiploads of short planks"?
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......... anally thick............ '"
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| Quote ="Bullpower"icon_ask.gif . . . . . . . . . [url=http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php[/url'"
Look, it just [isounds[/i good,OK?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Look, it just [isounds[/i good,OK?
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I don't know. I [ithink[/i I know. But then, I could be wrong. Is it something like "as terminally, anally thick as the contents of a fleet of container shiploads of short planks"?
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"Saints Fan" - what did I tell you? Even wakner Long would not have bothered to bet on the racing certainty of you getting 'Varked after your comment.
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| Quote ="Adeybull""Saints Fan" - what did I tell you? Even wakner Long would not have bothered to bet on the racing certainty of you getting 'Varked after your comment.
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Translation? I only speak English.
I haven't a fecking clue what you're on about but I'm glad you're enjoying yourselves. However, the fact that it's all gone right over my head may just spoil it for you?
What is 'varked'?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Translation? I only speak English.
I haven't a fecking clue what you're on about but I'm glad you're enjoying yourselves. However, the fact that it's all gone right over my head may just spoil it for you?
What is 'varked'?
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Like the TV ad used to say . . . .. . "You know when you've been [iVarked[/i" .. . . . or [url=http://www.visit4info.com/advert/You-Know-When-Youve-Not-Been-Tangod-Tango-Range/10310something[/url like that
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| I'm sure you'll let me know if you think I'm been nieve but I really don't see how anyone at Bradford could have been involved in this or indeed how they would have been able to "get wind" of any dodgy goings on.
Remember, the rules on announcing teams prior to gameday were brought in by the RFL as a result of this scandal.
(IIRC) At the time of the game in question coaches were required to release their respective team details only an hour before kick off. With that in mind how could anyone at Bradford have known and be sure that Stains would field a weakend team?
Even if they had been a tip off or rumour, surley it would have only been looked at as some sort of sports psychology going on in order to unsettle the team and if they had been sure, why wouldnt they have taken the opportunity to rest a couple of our own players.
Answer - It never happened and therefore they just prepared to play the strongest team that could have been put in front of them.
By the time Bradford would have had any clue, they would have been out on the pitch warming up across from their opponants, by which time I think their minds would be firmly on the game about to happen.
For me this is just a case of Long making some controversial hype up in a sordid attempt to sell his book! Quite frankly, What a tit!
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| But surely there can only be a scandal if you bet on your own team to lose. This means that you deliberately play below your normal standard and thereby give your opponents an advantage.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"But surely there can only be a scandal if you bet on your own team to lose. This means that you deliberately play below your normal standard and thereby give your opponents an advantage.'"
I made a similar point, but only in context of it being infinitely better thah backing yourselves to lose. The problem though is that if it is known that players are betting on the outcome of matches, whether for or against their team, then obviously suggestions of collusion and match FIXING would be rife.
For instance, sport offers myriad examples where a patched-up scratch side has beaten a giant, and there's no particular reason why Saints couldn't have done it to us. (Indeed anyone remember just that at VP?)
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| Few days late mate ?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Few days late mate ?
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He was just hedging his bets.
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| If any Bulls players had been on it
IMO good luck to them
Any St players have money on Catalan to beat them on the last weekend of the regular season
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