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| Quote ="AaronBull"First things first, I'm sorry this is in another thread, but it needs it's own for the sake of the attention it should recieve.
Clearly, we are all in shock about the news this morning. The fact we are so close to extinction and losing the club we all love rings true to our hearts, and thanks to the ineptitude, lies and mis-management from certain people, our club is close to hitting the wall.
Mr Hood's 'idea' of us all contributing £100 to feed the black hole is quite frankly, an appalling one. I've seen plenty of reasoned responses from established posters on here that back that up. Why should the fans give £100 of their own money with no guarantee where it's going, or with any return from it?
So, here is mine (and Mick Gledhill's) idea.
I have seen posts suggesting BullBuilder get involved, which is a constructive one, but I would be prepared to suggest that goes against BullBuilder's remit, does it not? So, if not BullBuilder, a new fund/trust/entity should be formed, namely the "Save Our Bulls" foundation. There will undoubtedly be 99% of fans willing to give money to the club. But as fans, we should be entitled to know where it is going, and what is happening instead of being lied to time and time again. If an independent committee could be formed, I refer you all to a post I saw earlier in the main thread:
This is THE idea we should all be pursuing. Do we really want more lies, more covering up and the same board going through all this again? There HAS to be change. It is on this basis that I propose a meeting, next Monday evening (2nd April), with everybody welcome, along with their ideas. If there is subsequent interest, I will endeavour to arrange a venue in due course.
Please. I know we cannot lose our club, but we cannot allow this situation to happen again. Let US, the fans, the ones who love this club to the ground, have a say in the running of our club.
Thank you for your time in reading it.
Aaron.'"
good luck with this it was the only way forward, when the club went into administration and then was taken over by Mr Glover they didn't need to listen to the Wakefield Trinity Supports Trust but did so as it helped heal the wounds of the last regime.
They still listen to the views of the supporters via the trust and take a lot a things on board but they are in full control of the club
your management has to go
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| I agree with the previous idea, have the game against Leeds on the Saturday and ask for other teams fans to show up and support the club, even have bucket collections on the gate and raffle off the players shirts at the end of the game in the bar.
All in all this is just putting a plaster over the overall problem and that needs addressing, they could raise the money but be in the same situation a month down the line.
The root cause needs sorting and that could be getting a new face in to run the club and be more proactive (like Ian Lenegan at Wigan) and maybe think about going into administration to clear their debts and start again, this would result in 10 points being docked and surely finishing bottom of the pile and going against Bradford next time the liciencing comes around, if they did it now and got some financial clout behind them they could be in a better position next time liciencing comes around.
Surely the RFL can let Bradford off with a few months rent on Odsal and the players could take a small pay cut like the Rangers players.
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| Quote ="Leaf"I'd love for an independent body, with a constituted decision making process etc, try raise approx £500k and then go to the Bulls and take a stake in the club / representation on the board.
Have there been any successful supporter takeovers in UK sport? The only two I can think of are Stockport County (
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what about exeter, fc United of manchester, afc Wimbledon, one of the inverness teams, enfield town, nearer to home, BRamley Buffaloes, Hunslet Hawks and Rochdale.
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| Quote ="Marto"what about exeter, fc United of manchester, afc Wimbledon, one of the inverness teams, enfield town, nearer to home, BRamley Buffaloes, Hunslet Hawks and Rochdale.'"
No offence Marto, and I know alot of hard work has gone into it, but its alot different at SL level, and Bramley aren't doing too well at the moment either.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"No offence Marto, and I know alot of hard work has gone into it, but its alot different at SL level, and Bramley aren't doing too well at the moment either.'"
none taken but the point is that there are plenty of examples out there.
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| Can't we ask Hull fc to split the gate money of friday and pack the KC stadium then do the same when we play them at home later on in the season??
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| Gotta say think this is a really well thought out idea how about the Back The Bulls Supporters Trust, any info on a place for a meeting please post ASAP. Why are we not at least been offered shares to buy from the club? Like you said 99% of fans would put their hard earned cash into the club if you could see some sort of return on it, sounds like once again Hood is using the fans as a cash cow he is attempting to milk dry
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Mick .I am thinking of making a donation.If you can fill me in with everything ,and the plans.you if you pm me on here or FB I will give you my adress and phone number.Best wishes Eddie'"
Hi Eddie
I'll fill you in on Facebook. You're £2,500 donation will be generously received mate.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"We have an emergency Bullbuilder board meeting tomorrow evening. We need to have that meeting before we can say anything further.
Remember that the Bullbuilder board members are all unpaid volunteers, and are busy people with day (and in some cases half the night as well
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IF people are keen on the idea of seeking to do something through a supporters trust, then IMO it would be totally insane to try and set up a new vehicle for that purpose. It takes months, and a load of hassle - been there, done that - and go ask Wakey: they had exactly the same issue. Bullbuilder's constitution DOES allow it to act in the required capacity. But whether Bullbuilder SHOULD take on any such role is, in the first instance, a matter for the BB board and the BB membership. Tomorrow's meeting will doubtless consider all the representations made.
In all this, I am speaking in a purely personal capacity, and not officially on behalf of Bullbuilder.'"
Adey - Assuming Bullbuilder take on this role, and I think you should, could you not set a target of maybe say £300k to start and set up an escrow account for people to put actual money into which can't be used of course until the target is reached. I think getting actual money into the trust is better than promised/pledged money and if you explain escrow to fans they will be assured they will get there money back if you don't reach your target?
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| The Save Our Bulls Foundation are meeting in the Top House on Monday at 7pm prompt.
Everyone is welcome to attend.
Together we are stronger.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"The Save Our Bulls Foundation are meeting in the Top House on Monday at 7pm prompt.
Everyone is welcome to attend.
Together we are stronger.'"
I'll come down, but I will say that atm I think the priority is getting cash into the club before the deadline.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I'll come down, but I will say that atm I think the priority is getting cash into the club before the deadline.'"
Meeting as a collective force on a Monday evening isn't distracting our fundraising efforts.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Meeting as a collective force on a Monday evening isn't distracting our fundraising efforts.'"
Agreed, and I'll probably make it down.
Just hope it doesn't turn into a Hoodbashing session. None of us are happy with the current management, but it has to be about potential solutions. I'm sure most people realise this, but there are still a fair few (mostly on t&a though) that seem only to want to have a go at Hood, rather than put their effort into something better.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Agreed, and I'll probably make it down.
Just hope it doesn't turn into a Hoodbashing session. None of us are happy with the current management, but it has to be about potential solutions. I'm sure most people realise this, but there are still a fair few (mostly on t&a though) that seem only to want to have a go at Hood, rather than put their effort into something better.'"
I will personally ensure that there is no Hood Bashing.
Our number one aim is to raise as much money as physically and humanly possible to ensure the survival of top flight Rugby League in Bradford.
The timeframe is against us yes, but it's not impossible.
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| As joint runner of the meeting (along with Mick) there will be no Hood bashing. The debate as to who takes the club forward comes after it is saved.
We will be discussing quick measures to raise money, as well as ways to raise the next 500k after this 500k has been raised.
Save the Bulls - Together we are stronger.
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| All sounds great. I'll be there then. Now i'm done with uni for easter I've as much time as needed and willing to use it for the Bulls.
Think the run on saturday or sunday is a great start. A bigger run on the thursday or day before leeds game is a good one too.
Wonder if the club would hold a car boot in the car park? Wouldn't cost them anything, so no risk. Few more hundred if it went well.
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The run will be Sunday. No disrespect, but I have a big game I'm working at Saturday and the u18s are at home. Sunday is practical.
Once I get confirmation from the club, I'll mail you all.
In the mean time, everyone who is interested email me at aaronbower@live.co.uk
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The run will be Sunday. No disrespect, but I have a big game I'm working at Saturday and the u18s are at home. Sunday is practical.
Once I get confirmation from the club, I'll mail you all.
In the mean time, everyone who is interested email me at aaronbower@live.co.uk
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| With myself having good links with the NHS I'm certain sponsorship forms on all Thirty wards at the BRI would help to raise close to £1,000.
Together We Are Stronger.
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| I'll be running with a major hangover as its my birthday night out on the saturday (too late to cancel) but i'll still be there.
Yes, they've dealt this news out when its my birthday on thursday. Great present
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| Slightly off subject, But Imagine..do you reckon the present directors and owners of Bradford have actually thought what the history of the club is worth, nothing really obviously, they do not value it, to place it in such a position in the first place, we need a million pounds, wow, what a crass statement and what was with the business plan, five, four, three, two, one years ago etc, franchise and all, obvious they have pulled the wool over everyones eyes including the RFL and the fans, I like Bulls fans, good honest folk and a credit to the club, just listen to what the big cheeses have to say about the situation on t'internet and BBC/Sky etc, all business plans and stakeholders, not RL people, are they even from Bradford, what about the local council, does anyone else care in the town,
Vote none of the above, as Richard Pryor once said, I wish you well, make sure, YOU, the good fans of Bradford put the club, where it belongs, and lets hope you get it sorted for the club to remain alive and going etc
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| From a Hull fan good luck with everything. It would be an awful shame to see you go the wall. Make sure there's plenty of buckets around the KC on Friday because I will contribute as will many other Hull fans I'm sure.
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| Just a thought. . .to kick start the supporters trust fund, why not ask the Bulls fans who intend going to the KC to not go, but pledge the £25 ticket cost to them.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"Just a thought. . .to kick start the supporters trust fund, why not ask the Bulls fans who intend going to the KC to not go, but pledge the £25 ticket cost to them.'"
I think you might have an ulterior motive there.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I think you might have an ulterior motive there.
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Two birds with one stone, eh!
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| Good luck, any funds raised must be held by your supporters trust, do not just give it to the club. You need to know the full list of creditors, ( I have no idea of the ammount of debt but imagine if the £ 500,000 or the 1,000,000 is just enough to paper over the cracks ) you need shares in return, imagine if you do raise £ 500,000 just what a strong hand you will have to play.
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