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| Quote ="MDF"Ratchford is one of the current SL players I'd most like to see at the Bulls. Young, British, bags of potential, great kicking game, not yet been nabbed by one of the big clubs, able to play anywhere in the backs, probably already a better centre than any on our books in 2011 (with Lulia still having it all to prove for 2012)...'"
Agree completely. I reckon him at 6 with initially Jeffries and then Southernwood could turn us from mid table to contenders. A player to build a team around for mine and no surprise from the various RL and RU rumours that he basically has his pick of teams. Warrington will inevitably get him I guess though with the room they must still have under the cap.
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| Quote ="FC MONK"We offered less than Bradford. '"
Yes, yes of course you did.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Decent player.
Think Briggs would see it as a kick in teeth though.'"
Who cares how Briggs sees it.
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| What likelyhood is the signing of a half back from a RU club not a million miles from us ?
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| Quote ="debaser"Yes, yes of course you did.
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And why wouldn't of we? You seem so sure of it. So come on then explain why we won't of done.
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| To be honest, once Hood had commented on Seymour I suspected he probably wouldn't be coming. I can think of plenty who Hood has replied with the line 'we're always interested in quality players' etc but they never sign. King, Seymour, Mason, Moi Moi etc.
I'm not devastated that Seymour is off to Hull, I just hope we have a few more irons in the fire.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"And why wouldn't of me? You seem so sure of it. So come on then explain why we won't of done.
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Because it's not true?
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| Quote ="debaser"Because it's not true?'"
How you know this how? exactly, you don't.
You just don't want to believe its true.
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| Hopefully Keith Lulia will turn out to be another Brett Kearney/Heath L'Estrange signing, not a big name but a quality player. It is getting a bit annoying though with Hood stating we are interested in quality players/marquee names but not pulling them off. He did manage it with Matt Orford and tried with Greg Bird, but using names like Pryce and Moi Moi to try pull the fans in and then not deliver is quite disapointing. Hopefully we see a good quality international player arriving at Odsal in 2012.
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"Hopefully Keith Lulia will turn out to be another Brett Kearney/Heath L'Estrange signing, not a big name but a quality player. It is getting a bit annoying though with Hood stating we are interested in quality players/marquee names but not pulling them off. He did manage it with Matt Orford and tried with Greg Bird, but using names like Pryce and Moi Moi to try pull the fans in and then not deliver is quite disapointing. Hopefully we see a good quality international player arriving at Odsal in 2012.'"
Got to agree with that.
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"What likelyhood is the signing of a half back from a RU club not a million miles from us ?'"
from leeds ru?
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| Quote ="phillgee"from leeds ru?'"
If it was a player from Carnegie, who do you think it could be ?
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| Quote ="bobsmyuncle"If it was a player from Carnegie, who do you think it could be ?'"
Joe Ford couldn't hack it in league last time here.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Who cares how Briggs sees it.'"
Treating players like $hit can come back to haunt clubs.
We don't want a reputation as a club who dumps players as soon as somebody else is available. Obviously we want better players cause we want our club to succeed,, but we signed Briggs up for 2 years.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"How you know this how? exactly, you don't.
You just don't want to believe its true.
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And you know it's not true how exactly? Oh, that's right, you don't.
What are the details of our offer to him? Seeing as you were party to the negotiations?
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| You're the one whos saying it isn't true. I haven't said if it's true or not. So come please I'm waiting for you to tell me why it isn't. But like I said obviously you don't know wether it is or not, so you saying of course it is, is just you hoping that it isn't true. But no I'm no one has ever signed for a club who has offered less money eh!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"You're the one whos saying it isn't true. I haven't said if it's true or not. So come please I'm waiting for you to tell me why it isn't. But like I said obviously you don't know wether it is or not, so you saying of course it is, is just you hoping that it isn't true. But no I'm no one has ever signed for a club who has offered less money eh!'"
So lets get this straight then. You put a post up designed to be provocative that you admit you don't know is true or not. Now you are demanding that the person who said he didn't think what you said was true prove to you that the statement you made, that you don't know is true or not, isn't true and acting like this is some sort of decisive point. wtf?
Given you've no proof to back up your original post why on earth should he need to back up his?
For what its worth, what I've heard is that you offered loads of money and he pulled out of a contract with us very much at the last minute. Hence the PR faux pas with Connor and the T&A.
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| No one will know for sure only Bradford haven't got much to offer at this moment in time other than money, Hull on the other hand have recommendations from an ex player (Berrigan), a team mate already signed for Hull (heremiah), a great stadium and facilities and probably a greater potential to succeed (at this moment in time), which would probably outweigh money alone.
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| Like I said I didn't say if I thought we had offered more money or not, but debaser seems so sure that we haven't offered less money. But has yet to explain why he thinks this. Therefor me saying that he just hopes that it isn't true.
No so hard to understand is it.
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| who cares bout seymour? cut by 2 nrl teams, droped to 2nds by a 3rd. top attitude n talent that is
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Like I said I didn't say if I thought we had offered more money or not, but debaser seems so sure that we haven't offered less money. But has yet to explain why he thinks this. Therefor me saying that he just hopes that it isn't true.
No so hard to understand is it.'"
What are you on? Why would I care if it's true or not? You have no evidence at all that it is or isn't yet you come on and make a bold statement. I disagree with you. As has been pretty widely reported in the press and internet (I assume you can read?) Hull FC stepped in at the last moment with a "big money offer" and pouched Seymour from under the noses of the Bulls. Read into that what you will. You can think that he came to Hull for the priviledge of playing in the Black and White, but that would be naiivity of the highest order. He went where the money is, like all reasonable players.
Your evidence to the contrary is....?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs2010"who cares bout seymour? cut by 2 nrl teams, droped to 2nds by a 3rd. top attitude n talent that is'"
So what better half backs are available in this climate? There are no available English ones to speak of and the chance of getting one of the big names in Oz now is very slim with their new, higher salary cap coming in. Getting a current NRL half back who is only 26 isn't bad going.
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| Quote ="debaser"What are you on? Why would I care if it's true or not? You have no evidence at all that it is or isn't yet you come on and make a bold statement. I disagree with you. As has been pretty widely reported in the press and internet (I assume you can read?) Hull FC stepped in at the last moment with a "big money offer" and pouched Seymour from under the noses of the Bulls. Read into that what you will. You can think that he came to Hull for the priviledge of playing in the Black and White, but that would be naiivity of the highest order. He went where the money is, like all reasonable players.
Your evidence to the contrary is....?'"
So where have you seen that we came in with a big money offer?
You don't believe that we offered less money, says differently here though.
The highly regarded 26-year-old, who can play scrum-half or stand-off, is being courted by Bradford Bulls, who want the Australian as part of their re-building plans.
However, Hull now seem certain to scupper that deal – and for less money than the Bulls are offering.
[urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/HULL-FC-Aussie-Seymour-eyes-Black-Whites/story-12786851-detail/story.html[/url
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| Quote ="fcimp"No one will know for sure only Bradford haven't got much to offer at this moment in time other than money, Hull on the other hand have recommendations from an ex player (Berrigan), a team mate already signed for Hull (heremiah), a great stadium and facilities and probably a greater potential to succeed (at this moment in time), which would probably outweigh money alone.'"
I actually disagree with the greater potential to suceed short to mid term. Whilst i believe hull are a better team, the vast majority of your better players are ageing. over the next 3 years you have ALOT of personel to replace, and you dont have a squad that will challenge hudds warrington or wigan before then imo.
What bradford do have is a nucleus of youngsters that if they kick on will give them a chance of challenging the top 4, hull dont seem to have that.
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| Id be happy to miss out on Brett Seymour, as long as we can get Leon Pryce, then give Cain Southernwood the No7 shirt, and give him his chance.
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