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| As i said, Tindall wouldnt be getting a game today and will be playing for us tomorrow.
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| Mo Agoro had dropped out of the Cougars squad. Fast winger and good finisher so thats good news.
Is Blackmore available? Or has he still got knee issues? I’d be happy to go with DFJ and Tindall.
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| A chance to go joint second with a victory here
It's all set up for a humiliating shock defeat isn't it.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"It's all set up for a humiliating shock defeat isn't it.'"
I pray to god you're wrong as we'll never hear the end of it from the neighbours. 2 or 3 early scores to shatter their confidence and cruise to victory will do nicely.
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| Quote ="dddooommm"I pray to god you're wrong as we'll never hear the end of it from the neighbours. 2 or 3 early scores to shatter their confidence and cruise to victory will do nicely.'"
Yes, We need to go at them with all guns blazing like last week
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| Is Blackmore available? Or has he still got knee issues? I’d be happy to go with DFJ and Tindall.'"
Blackmore is the squad so he must be fit, a few were less than complementary about his signing, I always found him to be an aggressive ball carrier that made plenty of metres. So far think he’s proved a few people wrong.
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| Going off what Derek Beaumont tweeted today, it looks like being a belting congregation. All the more reason to win and go second. As ever, good luck!
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| i can’t see Blackmore playing after his knee was in a brace like that only a week ago. Even if he has improved why risk him when we’ve two DR lads in the squad who can play wing plus DFJ?
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"I’d go with a similar set up to last week but maybe a few position changes in the pack. I’m going as if Tindall will be available as F’usitua and Handley will be Leeds wingers. And under the assumption that Blackmore is out:
Holmes
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Foster
Flanagan
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J. Johnston
Don’t think Cougars have got a great pack and their replacements aren’t great so I’d start solid to weather the early pressure Cougars will bring (their cup final) and have the bench come on and punch holes through the middle. Hence why I’d start Roby and bring Flanagan on to run.
I’d love to see Lawford as well with Lilley at 9. But I think we go with a similar side that did well against Sheff.'"
My only issue with that is that Roberts will be in the team somewhere as Leeds have given him to us for some game time.
So on the other wing from Tindall perhaps?
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| Still have these sorts of performances in us I see...
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| Grim result that. Though it sounds like Keighley thoroughly deserved their win.
The result isn't a shock but the manner is disappointing from a squad who looked to be showing a better attitude since the York showing. Big reality check and lucky not have been nilled for added humiliation.
Disappointing after some really big efforts in recent weeks.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Grim result that. Though it sounds like Keighley thoroughly deserved their win.
The result isn't a shock but the manner is disappointing from a squad who looked to be showing a better attitude since the York showing. Big reality check and lucky not have been nilled for added humiliation.
Disappointing after some really big efforts in recent weeks.'"
Yep. Just don't seem to learn as a club. This was Keighley Cup final. Opening minutes , they're going to come out all guns blazing. Just complete our sets, make it boring and get in the grind. Instead error, penalty, error, penalty etc just sounded like we were still on the bus which is unacceptable for this sort of game.
So frustrating as we've seen massive improvements this season, but some bad habits were there today.
Our season unravelled with a humiliating defeat against Fax this time last year. We've suffered another humiliation today. We have fax up next. Be interesting how we respond as we could be as low as tenth with how close the league is this year. Which is a real sickener with how well we've played and joint second up for grabs today.
So frustrating.
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| Ruan and Roberts, dont want to see either of them ever again.
Dunning got that wrong and the subs today.
Not the only thing that was wrong. It was absolute pathetic from min 1 to min 80.
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| Crap performance. Out enthused. Got exactly what we deserved. Would be interested to see what Dunning has to say about it because it was so predictable from the first minute.
We've had a lot of plaudits and back slapping recently. Now we'll see how we deal with a bit of adversity.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Ruan and Roberts, dont want to see either of them ever again.
Dunning got that wrong and the subs today.
Not the only thing that was wrong. It was absolute pathetic from min 1 to min 80.'"
On that one I don’t think he has a choice as part of the agreement
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"On that one I don’t think he has a choice as part of the agreement'"
So he gets told who he can have? Does he have a choice on whether to select them in the 13?
Ruan looks disinterested. He got outpaced by Webster today. A man old enough to be his father. Then spent time stretching his hamstrings. God knows why since he'd done absolutely nothing in the game.
Felt sorry for Roberts. Made loads of errors. DFJ would've been a better selection since a derby game isn't a good place to make a debut on dual reg.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"So he gets told who he can have? Does he have a choice on whether to select them in the 13?
Ruan looks disinterested. He got outpaced by Webster today. A man old enough to be his father. Then spent time stretching his hamstrings. God knows why since he'd done absolutely nothing in the game.
Felt sorry for Roberts. Made loads of errors. DFJ would've been a better selection since a derby game isn't a good place to make a debut on dual reg.'"
As far I understand it (correct me if I am wrong), we literally have no choice with DR. That's the big issue I have with the whole concept. Leeds decides the players they provide (and obviously, it is who suits them), and we HAVE to play them.
We had our (likely) three biggest signings out (Lawrence, Thompson and Walker) and had three kids from Leeds who were only in the team because Leeds made them come and play for us.
It must be sickening for Foggin-Johnson. Every time Leeds wants to play one of their kids on the wing, he gets dropped.
Is it any wonder we were "outenthused"
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| Seems to me like Leeds send us who they want, and we have no choice but to play them. Would love a journo to come out and ask Dunning that directly but they wont.
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| Think this needs to be out in the open because it's potentially a massive issue.
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"On that one I don’t think he has a choice as part of the agreement'"
Of course he has a choice. He doesnt have to pick them in the first place. Absloute pathetic comment.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Seems to me like Leeds send us who they want, and we have no choice but to play them. Would love a journo to come out and ask Dunning that directly but they wont.'"
Someone else that doesnt have a clue about how duel reg works
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| I just knew that was going to happen. This game had banana skin written all over it. We were so unbelievably poor across the park we made a very average team look like world beaters. I felt defensively we were pretty good during the first 20 mins where Keighley never seemed to leave our try line. We defended well when Rodgers was in the bin but were the masters of our own downfall by silly errors in vital positions.
The final 10/15 mins of the first half was where the game was lost. We let them roll over our left side time after time and didn't have any answers for it. We came out after half time and then let the ball go out from the kick off. Unforgivable errors to make when you’re staring down a massive deficit.
It was an awful selection choice to have Roberts and Ruan starting in such a tense derby game. Massive lesson learnt for those Rhinos academy players today. DFJ must be asking himself how the hell he got dropped after that display.
Keighley’s first competitive win against us since 1945. Embarrassing.
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| Quote ="dddooommm"I just knew that was going to happen. This game had banana skin written all over it. We were so unbelievably poor across the park we made a very average team look like world beaters. I felt defensively we were pretty good during the first 20 mins where Keighley never seemed to leave our try line. We defended well when Rodgers was in the bin but were the masters of our own downfall by silly errors in vital positions.
The final 10/15 mins of the first half was where the game was lost. We let them roll over our left side time after time and didn't have any answers for it. We came out after half time and then let the ball go out from the kick off. Unforgivable errors to make when you’re staring down a massive deficit.
It was an awful selection choice to have Roberts and Ruan starting in such a tense derby game. Massive lesson learnt for those Rhinos academy players today. DFJ must be asking himself how the hell he got dropped after that display.
Keighley’s first competitive win against us since 1945. Embarrassing.'"
Gilly was good enough to hold our left edge together to begin with, but as soon as he went off and Roberts didn’t have an experienced centre to help him, he really struggled.
Completion was shocking as well.
I think the only reason we have D/R is to get Tindall. And the only reason we need Tindall is the singing of that PNG winger fell through.
Overall, we were out-enthused, which is shocking for a derby.
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| The worst part of it was not that we lost. But in the lack of enthusiasm from the players. The lack of ideas in attack.
Some of them just did not seem intrested. If you can not get up for a local derby why are you even puling on a jersey. Just awful.
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