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| Quote ="Bullseye"Jon Hamer
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12 Seasons with the club. 1985/86 until 1996. Think his last appearance may have been the 96 cup final but I'd have to check that.'"
I may be wrong here but didnt Jon have a few games for York at the start of 97.He definitley moved there but whether he actually turned out for them before injury curtailed his career I carnt be sure.Also was Gerry Cordle a one club man.Think he had those few seasons with us then went back down the valleys to mess about for a bit before retiring.Good stuff this very intresting.
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| Willy Davies 1939 -1951
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How many games could he have played? The war robbed him of 6 years he only played 37 times for Northern during those years. My father said he was a genius of a Stand Off.
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| Bill Seddon 1952 - 1963
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He came from New Zealand with Philips and McClean I believe.
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| Not sure about these mike lamb rudi Francis
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Dennis Trotter
12 Seasons - 1970/71 until 1981/82
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Was shocked to find that Trotter did not have a Wikipedia page considering he won a few trophies with Northern so I have created one for him based on a couple of sources I could find. Are his total appearances 201 or 267? And thank you ever so much for the other statistics too! You haven't by any chance got Karl Fairbank's appearances as well have you pal?
Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Willy Davies 1939 -1951
Played 212
tries 55
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How many games could he have played? The war robbed him of 6 years he only played 37 times for Northern during those years. My father said he was a genius of a Stand Off.'"
Thank you! And I heard he was mercurial as a Stand Off and Frank Whitcombe took it upon himself to be Davies 'minder' on the field and dished out any punishment to people who tried to take Willie out of the game.
Quote ="Johnbulls"Quote ="Bullseye"Jon Hamer
214 Appearances plus 29 as Sub.
13 Tries
52 Pts
12 Seasons with the club. 1985/86 until 1996. Think his last appearance may have been the 96 cup final but I'd have to check that.'"
I may be wrong here but didnt Jon have a few games for York at the start of 97.He definitley moved there but whether he actually turned out for them before injury curtailed his career I carnt be sure.Also was Gerry Cordle a one club man.Think he had those few seasons with us then went back down the valleys to mess about for a bit before retiring.Good stuff this very intresting.'"
As far as I can tell Hamer didn't play for Cas and was indeed a one club man and he started at prop in the 96 Cup Final.
I've always found the idea of one club men interesting, I was gutted that Langley went onto Hull KR as I was hoping he'd retire with us and become the most recent one club man since McDermott.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Yes Jon Hamer only played for us.'"
Sorry Bullseye your wrong he played for York
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| Quote ="Molsk111"Not sure about these mike lamb rudi Francis'"
Not sure about Mike Lamb but Rudi definitley played for New Hunslet around 77/78 when they played at the old greyhound stadium on Elland Road.Couldnt see a thing at that ground.Terrace was below ground level.All you could see was the edge of a track with the pitch some way beyond that.
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| Think Mike Lamb was a union player who converted to league and first joined Leeds prior to joining Northern.
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| Quote ="ifallwerelikemumby"Think Mike Lamb was a union player who converted to league and first joined Leeds prior to joining Northern.'"
Correct.
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| I had Mike Lamb and Rudi Francis on my shortlist earlier but agree with the confirmation of them being on the books of Leeds and New Hunslet. That shortlist also had a couple of possible long shots in Arnie Long and David Mordue. I think they played for a lot less than 10 years but were regulars for 3 or 4 seasons to get near 100 games.
They could have played for other teams but I drew a blank trying to find this out.
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| Quote ="Jack Marston"I had Mike Lamb and Rudi Francis on my shortlist earlier but agree with the confirmation of them being on the books of Leeds and New Hunslet. That shortlist also had a couple of possible long shots in Arnie Long and David Mordue. I think they played for a lot less than 10 years but were regulars for 3 or 4 seasons to get near 100 games.
They could have played for other teams but I drew a blank trying to find this out.'"
Arnie Long had 105 appearances and scored 21 tries making 63 points (3 point tries) in four seasons from 71-72 and Dave Mordue had slightly fewer appearances in 74, scoring 4 tries making 12 points .He played over nine seasons from 73-74 with a one year gap before his final season ( so in eight actual seasons), relatively few appearances over each of the years though.
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| Brendan Hill,s father Dave Hill might be a good shout.Mid 60s to mid 70s.When I started watchin in early 70s he was a regular in the team week in week out but couldnt be sure when he stopped playin for us he went elsewhere.I know we signed him from Queensbury.Still think Gerry Cordle only played for us in between his union years.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"Was shocked to find that Trotter did not have a Wikipedia page considering he won a few trophies with Northern so I have created one for him based on a couple of sources I could find. Are his total appearances 201 or 267? And thank you ever so much for the other statistics too! You haven't by any chance got Karl Fairbank's appearances as well have you pal? '"
Total appearances 267. I always count the subs separately so if you want to add them together for Wikipedia feel free.
Did Brian McDermott only play for us? I thought we signed him from Doncaster?
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| Quote ="herr rigsby"Sorry Bullseye your wrong he played for York'"
Cheers pal.
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| Gerald Cordle
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| Quote ="Bulliac"Arnie Long had 105 appearances and scored 21 tries making 63 points (3 point tries) in four seasons from 71-72 and Dave Mordue had slightly fewer appearances in 74, scoring 4 tries making 12 points .He played over nine seasons from 73-74 with a one year gap before his final season ( so in eight actual seasons), relatively few appearances over each of the years though.'"
I know I`m getting old and memories get confused but some other old git might correct me but I always remember the prop forward Arnie Long started out as a winger at Featherstone. Or am I thinking of Colin Forsyth
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| Quote ="Bullseye":ge57zq3dTotal appearances 267. I always count the subs separately so if you want to add them together for Wikipedia feel free.
Did Brian McDermott only play for us? I thought we signed him from Doncaster?'" :ge57zq3d
Ah right no problem I'll amend that now then. And yeah for Wikipedia they are usually bunched together but if you keep putting them in that format I know now to add them Thank you ever so much for your help!
And this was taken from the Guardian in 2013 from an interview with McDermott:
McDermott left the marines because an unfulfilling stint at a base camp in Kent could not match the intensity of his combat experiences. He thought he would become a professional boxer. "If you've been shot at you think you'll be able to handle everything. But the only thing that will help you in the ring is if you've been in there before. You can't say, as the new head coach of Bradford, persuaded McDermott to play a year for nothing to prove himself in league. Through sheer force of will he became an international prop.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Gerald Cordle
121 Appearances plus 1 as Sub.
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7 Seasons 89/90 - 95/96'"
I'm sure Gerald was on loan to South Wales Dragons in 1996 for 6 games?
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| Peter Fox signed McDermott. Smith gave him SL contract after we beat Warrington 23-22 in the 95/96 season.
I'll check his testimonial brochure when I get home.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Peter Fox signed McDermott. Smith gave him SL contract after we beat Warrington 23-22 in the 95/96 season.
I'll check his testimonial brochure when I get home.'"
He definitely played under Smith in the 95/96 winter season prior to SL.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Total appearances 267. I always count the subs separately so if you want to add them together for Wikipedia feel free.
Did Brian McDermott only play for us? I thought we signed him from Doncaster?'"
Im fairly sure he went to Doncaster on loan for a few games to get some playing time and confidence,came back and the rest as they say is history but stand to be corrected on that.
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| To be very fair to lads like Nobby and Sir Keith, they went elsewhere because the club was in turmoil at that time. BUT they came back and served THEIR club. They were ONE club men in the heart. Still are.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"He definitely played under Smith in the 95/96 winter season prior to SL.'"
He did.
I've checked up. Fox signed him for Northern from Eastmoor. He had a spell on loan at Donny. He didn't play for anyone else except us and them.
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| Not sure about players going on loan. If Bulls send a player out on loan then he's still a Bulls' player in reality. If the guy signs fully for another club the he's clearly left but loans are a bit of 'no man's land', imo.
To some extent the same applies for subs. When subs first came into the game, it was slightly more clear cut; someone went on and someone came off (initially only for an injury where the original player couldn't continue) but under modern rules, where players are on and off all the time, one or more of the bench players can often spend more time on the field than the original 13 who went onto the paddock, especially when players are being used tactically. My view is that RL is a game for a team of 17 players where no more than 13 can be on the field at the same time. they're all equal, imo. A bit like sorting out the three point tries from the fours and one point drops from the twos it does all get a little complicated otherwise.
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| Quote ="JTCFJG"To be very fair to lads like Nobby and Sir Keith, they went elsewhere because the club was in turmoil at that time. BUT they came back and served THEIR club. They were ONE club men in the heart. Still are.'"
I'm not sure we were in turmoil at the time. We were still in the top 8 when Keith left IIRC. When Nobby left it was because Trevor Clark had the position sewn up.
I agree they are Bradford mean at heart for sure. For me Keith in particular is.
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